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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Who was still on the board when they picked that goalie? - JRR1285
McLeod, Wilde, Thomas, ginning |
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Fenrir
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Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ Joined: 04.02.2015
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For a little more than his past contract in $$/years? Sure. Him sucking in playoffs gives NYR some leverage on that I'd assume. For 3-3.5 he's probably looking for? Hell no
There's still a ton of work to do ..that's for sure. NYR will probably accumulate some picks for next year when one or more of Nam, Spooner, and others get traded as well - rrentz
I'm with you. Sucking in the playoffs and roster upheaval on the Rangers should bring him back at a bargain. |
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on Adam Rotter's SNY, Gorton explains all the reasoning for the picks.
https://www.sny.tv/ranger...t-rfas-and-more/282594020 - rrentz[url]
A 17 year old goalie is still 5 years away from wiffing the NHL. No reason to draft him in the 2nd round, very few goalies actually make it to the NHL and when they do they have VERY little value. Look at Raanta Gudbranson etc. unless they’re a star their value is low. Just doesn’t make sense especially with the Russian goalie so highly touted. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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A 17 year old goalie is still 5 years away from wiffing the NHL. No reason to draft him in the 2nd round, very few goalies actually make it to the NHL and when they do they have VERY little value. Look at Raanta Gudbranson etc. unless they’re a star their value is low. Just doesn’t make sense especially with the Russian goalie so highly touted. - nyrangers9479
If he ever comes over from KHL. They had this goalie ranked head and shoulders above all others. For all we know NYR had info that the next team in draft was going to take him.. Did you even read his comments. Get over it. Drafting him 39th vs. a later picks makes no real (frank)ing difference except to your imaginary mock draft info.. its not like there was some superstar they passed over. Lets move on ..geez |
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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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This offseason blows - TPC
Would you stop this silliness. Let it digest before you freak out over things that won't come to fruition for years to come.
Do you really think so little of Management? Sarher isn't in charge anymore..lol |
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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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Would you stop this silliness. Let it digest before you freak out over things that won't come to fruition for years to come.
Do you really think so little of Management? Sarher isn't in charge anymore..lol - rrentz
I have been drinking let me vent...god lol |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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If he ever comes over from KHL. They had this goalie ranked head and shoulders above all others. For all we know NYR had info that the next team in draft was going to take him.. Did you even read his comments. Get over it. Drafting him 39th vs. a later picks makes no real (frank)ing difference except to your imaginary mock draft info.. its not like there was some superstar they passed over. Lets move on ..geez - rrentz
You don't know that... |
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TPC
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Location: Bucks County, PA Joined: 01.18.2008
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You don't know that... - tomburton99
I wanted Whalstrom and Dobson so bad...and not only did we pass on both but the Isles got both of them lol
Our frustration is expected haha |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I wanted Whalstrom and Dobson so bad...and not only did we pass on both but the Isles got both of them lol
Our frustration is expected haha - TPC
I'm not upset about the 1st round. I question Kravtsov a little bit. However, the Rangers need depth and skill on the wings. So fine. My entire attitude changed at 39. There is no way the Rangers out smarted the league with that pick. Considering the 2 top ranked goalies, North American and European, went at the end of round 2 and beginning of round 3. Gorton's quote desribing the rationale for that pick makes him sound like an idiot. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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You don't know that... - tomburton99
And you do oh Great Swami. Point is that Ranger brass have the most accurate info than anyone, so their picks are following their best info to take best available olayers at the time for what they think the most important needs are for now and future. Why is this so hard for you to understand. Sorry your picks weren't the ones taken buddy. Must be a tough weekend for ya. |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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And you do oh Great Swami. Point is that Ranger brass have the most accurate info than anyone, so their picks are following their best info to take best available olayers at the time for what they think the most important needs are for now and future. Why is this so hard for you to understand. Sorry your picks weren't the ones taken buddy. Must be a tough weekend for ya. - rrentz
Taking the 5th ranked European goalie at pick 39 seems like bright move and you seem like a bright guy. You should do well in life. |
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KreiderBomb
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Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo Joined: 06.02.2014
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A 17 year old goalie is still 5 years away from wiffing the NHL. No reason to draft him in the 2nd round, very few goalies actually make it to the NHL and when they do they have VERY little value. Look at Raanta Gudbranson etc. unless they’re a star their value is low. Just doesn’t make sense especially with the Russian goalie so highly touted. - nyrangers9479
I like Lindblom from his U18 performance but agree at 39 it wasn’t necessary, hope he pans or it could be a big regret with those players who were available
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Taking the 5th ranked European goalie at pick 39 seems like bright move and you seem like a bright guy. You should do well in life. - tomburton99
I actually do very well in life . Glad your so concerned, and I don't act like I'm some fuuuuxking hockey prospect savant like you.
What was Lundquist ranked by the way, or Anders Lee or Stone, or a million other guys who kicked ass I NHL who weren't ranked where the "experts" ranked them
NHL draft is more speculative than any other other draft..and 95% of those drafted won't have a chance to play in NHL for 2-4 years, if they even make it at all.
Deep breath buddy, deeeeep breath....ahhhh |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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I actually do very well in life . Glad your so concerned, and I don't act like I'm some fuuuuxking hockey prospect savant like you.
What was Lundquist ranked by the way, or Anders Lee or Stone, or a million other guys who kicked ass I NHL who weren't ranked where the "experts" ranked them
NHL draft is more speculative than any other other draft..and 95% of those drafted won't have a chance to play in NHL for 2-4 years, if theyake it at all - rrentz
I mean I can breakdown your blind loyalty for you, but it's gonna be a RangerSaver type of post.
Here is Gorton's quote:
Why take Olof Lindbom in round two, "there are forwards, defense and goalie, it's not like we have 22 positions here. We are trying to take the best players on our list and we had a goalie first overall, by a long shot, we thought that with our history with goalies and who we have in our organization to help develop goalies, that it would be a good pick. We will see. Only one goalie plays for you at a time and we will see how it works out. Over time, the value of goalies is very high. We like the player a lot and felt like it was an opportunity that we couldn't pass up at that time."
Where I can't argue. Benoit Allaire does a great job with the goalies. Where Gorton is wrong, well here it is. Just gonig to according to Bob Mckenzie's ranking, Lindbom was ranked 53. So the Rangers reached. His next highest rank was 91. Gorton is saying that goalie appreciate. They don't. The Penguins had to give Fleury away. Bishop was traded for a 7th and conditional 2nd. Bobrovsky was traded for 3 draft picks. The Rangers haven't developed a home grown drafted goalie since they drafted Lundqvist. They best they've seen was an undrafted UFA playing his college hockey in Alabama. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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I mean I can breakdown your blind loyalty for you, but it's gonna be a RangerSaver type of post.
Here is Gorton's quote:
Why take Olof Lindbom in round two, "there are forwards, defense and goalie, it's not like we have 22 positions here. We are trying to take the best players on our list and we had a goalie first overall, by a long shot, we thought that with our history with goalies and who we have in our organization to help develop goalies, that it would be a good pick. We will see. Only one goalie plays for you at a time and we will see how it works out. Over time, the value of goalies is very high. We like the player a lot and felt like it was an opportunity that we couldn't pass up at that time."
Where I can't argue. Benoit Allaire does a great job with the goalies. Where Gorton is wrong, well here it is. Just gonig to according to Bob Mckenzie's ranking, Lindbom was ranked 53. So the Rangers reached. His next highest rank was 91. Gorton is saying that goalie appreciate. They don't. The Penguins had to give Fleury away. Bishop was traded for a 7th and conditional 2nd. Bobrovsky was traded for 3 draft picks. The Rangers haven't developed a home grown drafted goalie since they drafted Lundqvist. They best they've seen was an undrafted UFA playing his college hockey in Alabama. - tomburton99
Dumb ass... McKenzie isn't going around the world and watching every single player in the draft....NYR and scouts has watched every player they picked and 1000s of others multiple times and made their decisions accordingly
McKenzie takes what he hears from random people and makes his picks for poops and giggles.. Jesus..it's like your some Lib who believes everything Rachael Madow says .
You do understand that McKenzie and others like him make their picks for entertainment...right?
Please try and beore condescending in the future..It's such a great quality of yours |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Dumb ass... McKenzie isn't going around the world and watching every single player in the draft....NYR and scouts has watched every player they picked and 1000s of others multiple times and made their decisions accordingly
McKenzie takes what he hears from random people and makes his picks for poops and giggles.. Jesus..it's like your some Lib who believes everything Rachael Madow says .
You do understand that McKenzie and others like him make their picks for entertainment...right?
Please try and beore condescending in the future..It's such a great quality of yours - rrentz
Ok so how bout central scouting?
https://www.eliteprospect...layer/344661/olof-lindbom |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Dumb ass... McKenzie isn't going around the world and watching every single player in the draft....NYR and scouts has watched every player they picked and 1000s of others multiple times and made their decisions accordingly
McKenzie takes what he hears from random people and makes his picks for poops and giggles.. Jesus..it's like your some Lib who believes everything Rachael Madow says .
You do understand that McKenzie and others like him make their picks for entertainment...right?
Please try and beore condescending in the future..It's such a great quality of yours - rrentz
So Bob McKenzie, one of the most credible men in hockey for almost 4 decades doesn't have sources? Yikes.
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Ok so how bout central scouting?
https://www.eliteprospect...layer/344661/olof-lindbom - tomburton99
Again..Central scouting has absolutely no impact on any of the picks that any team made in draft. It's a summary of players and where they hypothetically might be drafted. Every NHL team has there own scouting apparatus that is independent of all others.
Central scouting has been wrong on as many players as they have been right, especially after the top 10 picked. The difference between the majority of these players is so small and if NYR saw something in them to.love them up in their rankings than it sounds good to me. 50/50 shot little buddy |
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dman78
New York Rangers |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 12.28.2011
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Dumb ass... McKenzie isn't going around the world and watching every single player in the draft....NYR and scouts has watched every player they picked and 1000s of others multiple times and made their decisions accordingly
McKenzie takes what he hears from random people and makes his picks for poops and giggles.. Jesus..it's like your some Lib who believes everything Rachael Madow says .
You do understand that McKenzie and others like him make their picks for entertainment...right?
Please try and beore condescending in the future..It's such a great quality of yours - rrentz
Seems like Rangers scouts aren't either seems they grew roots or bought a house and started a family in Sweden and the other Scandinavian countries. |
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dman78
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 12.28.2011
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Again..Central scouting has absolutely no impact on any of the picks that any team made in draft. It's a summary of players and where they hypothetically might be drafted. Every NHL team has there own scouting apparatus that is independent of all others.
Central scouting has been wrong on as many players as they have been right, especially after the top 10 picked. The difference between the majority of these players is so small and if NYR saw something in them to.love them up in their rankings than it sounds good to me. 50/50 shot little buddy - rrentz
To be fair Sathe , Gorton and the great Gordie Clark have been wrong and had some God awful picks seems like more often then not. Just for curiosity all any of those guys your uncle or related to you in any way? |
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Again..Central scouting has absolutely no impact on any of the picks that any team made in draft. It's a summary of players and where they hypothetically might be drafted. Every NHL team has there own scouting apparatus that is independent of all others.
Central scouting has been wrong on as many players as they have been right, especially after the top 10 picked. The difference between the majority of these players is so small and if NYR saw something in them to.love them up in their rankings than it sounds good to me. 50/50 shot little buddy - rrentz
Ok so how bout the Rangers history of drafting goalies since drafting Lundqvist.
Blackburn
Chirs Holt
Al Montoya
Antoine Lefleur
Scott Stajcer
Mackenzie Skapski
Igor Shestyorkin
Adam Huska
Tyler Wall
Oscar Lindbom
What a great job. |
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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To be fair Sathe , Gorton and the great Gordie Clark have been wrong and had some God awful picks seems like more often then not. Just for curiosity all any of those guys your uncle or related to you in any way? - dman78
Nope, no relation. I'd rather be a glass half full kinda of guy then a the opposite. Kind of like to focus on positive, especially when it has to do w/ the NYR, seeing that it's , you know, ENTERTAINMENT, and not life and death.
IT will all work out my man...NYR prospect pool is better today than it has been in years. Why should I act like I have sand in my vagiiina and whine about another prospect that might/might not be better than the picks that were chosen?
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picklerick
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 03.01.2018
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Ok so how bout the Rangers history of drafting goalies since drafting Lundqvist.
Blackburn
Chirs Holt
Al Montoya
Antoine Lefleur
Scott Stajcer
Mackenzie Skapski
Igor Shestyorkin
Adam Huska
Tyler Wall
Oscar Lindbom
What a great job. - tomburton99
I’d have to compare that list to every other teams goalie picks in the same time frame to make a determination on managements goalie drafting prowess. We have hank, shestyorkin looks to be the real deal, one or two others are still in development. Goalies are a total crapshoot. All that being said, I’m not using this argument to justify the 2nd round pick today
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rrentz
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Location: HUNTINGTON, NY Joined: 07.13.2009
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Ok so how bout the Rangers history of drafting goalies since drafting Lundqvist.
Blackburn
Chirs Holt
Al Montoya
Antoine Lefleur
Scott Stajcer
Mackenzie Skapski
Igor Shestyorkin
Adam Huska
Tyler Wall
Oscar Lindbom
What a great job. - tomburton99
Oh I got it....Never draft a goalie. I betcha that out of every 10 goalies drafted by ANY team over the years that maybe 1 or 2 have made it to NHL.
Again, not saying NYR could/should went another route w/ goalie pick, but god dam. |
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