Your blinding me!! Your blinding me with science!!
- Slimtj100

Sorry ... for the update as well ... with "science" and more.
But that selection at #39 of a goalie was a stupid decision to make, position wise speaking, based on those in their system already. It has nothing to do with which goalie by name they chose. Hank was picked at #205 when drafted.
If the decision was not stupid, then it casts a doubt on who they currently have in their system to succeed Hank and whoever the next few seasons backups will be, for reasons I mentioned there. Maybe they only have confidence in Georgiev, and doubt whether Shesterkin will ever want to come to North America.

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St. Seb's RW Riley Hughes, a Northeastern commit, taken 216th by New York Rangers. Has size, skating, shot and vision. Needs to play more in the dirty areas, but has the physical tools.
- jimbro83

We got Hughes!!!!!!!!!!! Alright!!

Some of you guys are hysterical. The Rangers did fine.

Some of you guys are hysterical. The Rangers did fine.
- Feds91Stammer

We will be able to tell in bout 3 to 5 yrs when more then half of these guys never play a game for team.

Some of you guys are hysterical. The Rangers did fine.
- Feds91Stammer

I didn’t follow through the run of LHD, but I don’t dislike their picks, other than #39 (hope that’s what he takes for a jersey number!!). It just seemed like some really good opportunities weren’t taken advantage of. I feel like they could have gotten their same 3 guys in the 1st and gained a pick rather than losing one.

Sorry ... for the update as well ... with "science" and more.
But that selection at #39 of a goalie was a stupid decision to make, position wise speaking, based on those in their system already. It has nothing to do with which goalie by name they chose. Hank was picked at #205 when drafted.
If the decision was not stupid, then it casts a doubt on who they currently have in their system to succeed Hank and whoever the next few seasons backups will be, for reasons I mentioned there. Maybe they only have confidence in Georgiev, and doubt whether Shesterkin will ever want to come to North America.
- RangerSaver

Besides Georgiev, NYR doesn't have anyone to step into NHL. The goalie playing in KHL (Sergiekev?) might not come, and like Valiquette has said, his play might not translate well to NHL....I think that if other goalies were progressing as NYR hoped than that pick wouldn't have been made. If they were that high on the goalie they drafted and had inklings that some other team was gonna pick him, than Gorton had no choice. Would've liked a winger at the 39 spot , but time will tell. Its not like anything is known about anyone of these draft picks in the entire draft for a year or more until they actually play in NHL...Just like any other year.

I get frustration. Sometimes fans just want to see their team pick the "known" prospect that the "experts" say is good.

For anyone on here to think that NYR don't have a plan, than they are as retarted as some of the comments have been

we've been waiting forever for this fabled Russian goalie to come, he's one year away and now they use the 39th pick on a new goalie with so much first round talent on the board?

it doesn't make sense, unless they are getting scared this Russian actually isn't coming over
- jimbro83

I agree Jim, in thinking Shesterkin may never want to leave Russia, but worse, due to those words Valliquette spoke on him, as I had written earlier, with his game style, in the end, relying "on pucks to hit him", greater than his mobility and agility lesser level. His numbers in the KHL must then be skewed if that were the case. Or does Allaire also see that same thing with his game as Vally does?
The worry is that at the end of last season, we all thought we had Hank's new backup for this coming season in Georgiev. But now they are rumored to be in search for a new backup, for purposes only to allow Georgiev to develop further better in playing at least one more full season below. So maybe Georgiev is the only reliable one they felt they currently have to be Hank's heir apparent in a few years, to have to select another goalie with their 39th overall pick.

Some random thoughts:

I wanted Wahlstrom BADLY and was disappointed team passed on him. However, if Kravtsov truly was rated higher --- I will defer to the professionals on this.

Liked getting Miller, but I must admit it was a steep price to trade up only 4 spots. Team must of felt that he wouldn't be there at 26. Again, I defer to the professionals.

Lundkvist making the team will force some fun moments with Sam Rosen in future broadcasts.

The goalie pick----- the one that set everyone off the deep end.
We have the best goalie coach in the world. I have NO doubt that he was consulted and approved of this pick. You can't always rely on getting your franchise goalie in the 7th round. Is anyone going to be upset in 3 years if this kid is our new goalie?

As far as drafting ALL of these defensemen: Clearly Gortons' plan/vision is to improve the team from the defensive end.
In baseball, you can never have too much pitching. In football, you can never have too many pass rushers. Who is to say that you can never have too many defensemen??

The disappointment for me was the lack of trades. I fully expected Gorton to be wheeling and dealing throughout the draft. I am quite surprised as I type this that Zucc, Nam, Day, Gilmour and others are still here. We shall see.....

Besides Georgiev, NYR doesn't have anyone to step into NHL. The goalie playing in KHL (Sergiekev?) might not come, and like Valiquette has said, his play might not translate well to NHL....I think that if other goalies were progressing as NYR hoped than that pick wouldn't have been made. If they were that high on the goalie they drafted and had inklings that some other team was gonna pick him, than Gorton had no choice. Would've liked a winger at the 39 spot , but time will tell. Its not like anything is known about anyone of these draft picks in the entire draft for a year or more until they actually play in NHL...Just like any other year.

I get frustration. Sometimes fans just want to see their team pick the "known" prospect that the "experts" say is good.

For anyone on here to think that NYR don't have a plan, than they are as retarted as some of the comments have been
- rrentz

Your opening sentence is what I first mentioned earlier today, prior to my comment you replied to above, as to why they could have selected a goalie with their 39th overall pick, given who was already in their system. It's not a "retarded" statement, (based on your own words you also wrote), that maybe they can't rely on any of the goalies they already possess, to be Hank's successor.
Their number one in line in Shesterkin may never want to leave Russia to head to North America in the first place. And on MSG, Steve Valliquette had disputed this past season, his game success and numbers being greater due to "having more pucks just hit him", rather than him being more mobile and agile to play in the NHL. That's why he was also impressed with Georgiev, in feeling he was "NHL ready now", to be Hank's backup for about 25 minimum games.
But this week came word that they were searching for a new backup to Hank. Why so with Georgiev already proven on the NHL level, that he can handle the job, and possibly even more? It's for reasons of allowing Georgiev instead to develop even further by playing regularly for at least one more full season at Hartford as a #1 starter.

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Your opening sentence is what I first mentioned earlier today, prior to my comment you replied to above, as to why they could have selected a goalie with their 39th overall pick, given who was already in their system. It's not a "retarded" statement, (based on your own words you also wrote), that maybe they can't rely on any of the goalies they already possess, to be Hank's successor.
Their number one in line in Shesterkin may never want to leave Russia to head to North America in the first place. And on MSG, Steve Valliquette had disputed this past season, his game success and numbers being greater due to "having more pucks just hit him", rather than him being more mobile and agile to play in the NHL. That's why he was also impressed with Georgiev, in feeling he was "NHL ready now", to be Hank's backup for about 25 minimum games.
But this week came word that they were searching for a new backup to Hank. Why so with Georgiev already proven on the NHL level, that he can handle the job, and possibly even more? It's for reasons of allowing Georgiev instead to develop even further by playing regularly for at least one more full season at Hartford as a #1 starter.
- RangerSaver

Im not calling you retarted...just the people who act like they have a deeper insight on the world's ice hockey talent pool than NHL professional scouts, coaches, and GMs.

I said earlier this year when Georgiev was playing well that NYR and he would be better served playing a full year as a starting goalie in AHL rather than backing up Hank. I want him to get more games as a starter under his belt b4 he's parked on the Rangers bench for majority of year. Many here think that is stupid too. Vally also said that overwhelming majority of starting goalies have played at least 250 games in AHL/KHL/other professional leagues before starting in NHL and being successful.

Some random thoughts:

I wanted Wahlstrom BADLY and was disappointed team passed on him. However, if Kravtsov truly was rated higher --- I will defer to the professionals on this.

Liked getting Miller, but I must admit it was a steep price to trade up only 4 spots. Team must of felt that he wouldn't be there at 26. Again, I defer to the professionals.

Lundkvist making the team will force some fun moments with Sam Rosen in future broadcasts.

The goalie pick----- the one that set everyone off the deep end.
We have the best goalie coach in the world. I have NO doubt that he was consulted and approved of this pick. You can't always rely on getting your franchise goalie in the 7th round. Is anyone going to be upset in 3 years if this kid is our new goalie?

As far as drafting ALL of these defensemen: Clearly Gortons' plan/vision is to improve the team from the defensive end.
In baseball, you can never have too much pitching. In football, you can never have too many pass rushers. Who is to say that you can never have too many defensemen??

The disappointment for me was the lack of trades. I fully expected Gorton to be wheeling and dealing throughout the draft. I am quite surprised as I type this that Zucc, Nam, Day, Gilmour and others are still here. We shall see.....
- TommyGTrain

Your last paragraph's words were what was equally disappointing to me in their lack of trade activity, (outside of that two for one draft pick trade to select Miller at #22. If they also did not attempt at all to trade down prior to some specific selections they made, then that's equally a poor decision made for choosing some they did, who would have likely been available at a later pick number. That was in effect, them wasting especially their better picks through #39, (we'll wait to judge in key on Kravstov at #9 in going off the board), while being in pursuit to become faster under the rebuild portion of their combo rebuild/retool plan going in.
Their lack of wheeling and dealing this past week, (as was for most teams), has delayed for now their retool portion as well, unless they will all come this week, while also being active free agent wise the following week, starting July 1st. I hope they are active in both means, in also using some of their overload as trade bait. It's also possible that unless wanting to retain him as a veteran back liner for their youth, that Staal's contract may be considered to be bought out, should he not approve a pending trade.

Im not calling you retarted...just the people who act like they have a deeper insight on the world's ice hockey talent pool than NHL professional scouts, coaches, and GMs.

I said earlier this year when Georgiev was playing well that NYR and he would be better served playing a full year as a starting goalie in AHL rather than backing up Hank. I want him to get more games as a starter under his belt b4 he's parked on the Rangers bench for majority of year. Many here think that is stupid too. Vally also said that overwhelming majority of starting goalies have played at least 250 games in AHL/KHL/other professional leagues before starting in NHL and being successful.
- rrentz

I meant, with you referring to some's comments here as "retarded", and not that you said that as to mine, rentz. So all's well on that matter here.
Your first line written here, is why I have said for the past two weeks, that I don't believe in wasting time following all these mock drafts that are out there, and only follow those experts who are in contact with the most and best of the advanced scouts, prior to constructing their own mock draft.
As far as goalies go, I agree with you here, but ONLY would not want Georgiev as their backup this season, if they feel that he is their ONLY current possible one to succeed Hank that they have in their possession.

that goalie picked really (frank)ing pissed me off.. turned on nhl radio right as they announced it

if they are really staying away from the big ufa's then they really should be taking a poop contract from someone..

newest idea is Dustin Brown since they just signed Kovi and will need to sign DD. does LA have anything good worth taking along with Brown?

that goalie picked really (frank)ing pissed me off.. turned on nhl radio right as they announced it

if they are really staying away from the big ufa's then they really should be taking a poop contract from someone..

newest idea is Dustin Brown since they just signed Kovi and will need to sign DD. does LA have anything good worth taking along with Brown?
- mrn22

$5.9m until 2022 no thank you

$5.9m until 2022 no thank you
- picklerick

wow did not know it went until 2022

thought it was 2 years left

I feelso much better bout the picks after reading Gorton's comments nice to know they had Goalie number 1 on their list by far lol and he feels they got all the players they wanted. Gonna be alot of long yrs ahead with these clowns in charge.

that goalie picked really (frank)ing pissed me off.. turned on nhl radio right as they announced it

if they are really staying away from the big ufa's then they really should be taking a poop contract from someone..

newest idea is Dustin Brown since they just signed Kovi and will need to sign DD. does LA have anything good worth taking along with Brown?
- mrn22

The thing about LA is they have a lot of talent under contract, the other thing about LA- the bad contracts they have are there for a long time, Brown for 4 more years, Phaneuf for 3.

I meant, with you referring to some's comments here as "retarded", and not that you said that as to mine, rentz. So all's well on that matter here.
Your first line written here, is why I have said for the past two weeks, that I don't believe in wasting time following all these mock drafts that are out there, and only follow those experts who are in contact with the most and best of the advanced scouts, prior to constructing their own mock draft.
As far as goalies go, I agree with you here, but ONLY would not want Georgiev as their backup this season, if they feel that he is their ONLY current possible one to succeed Hank that they have in their possession.
- RangerSaver

Come on now....you must admit, that some of the comments (most by first time visitors, im sure) were pretty retartded

Is there something wrong w/ signing a FA backup for 1mill this year? Who?....I have no clue

The goalie pick is a head scratcher but I’m good with the 3 1st round picks. Would’ve liked to see another F with the 28 but good with who we got.

The goalie pick is a head scratcher but I’m good with the 3 1st round picks. Would’ve liked to see another F with the 28 but good with who we got.
- nyrangers9479

on Adam Rotter's SNY, Gorton explains all the reasoning for the picks.

https://www.sny.tv/ranger...t-rfas-and-more/282594020[url]

“He’s a player that wants to be here sooner than later,” Gorton said. “I think that will help us.” (Kravtsov)

If he gets out of his contract and comes over for this season I’ll feel better about the 2nd round (heretofore known as the round that shall not be named)

“He’s a player that wants to be here sooner than later,” Gorton said. “I think that will help us.” (Kravtsov)

If he gets out of his contract and comes over for this season I’ll feel better about the 2nd round (heretofore known as the round that shall not be named)
- picklerick

Who was still on the board when they picked that goalie?

on Adam Rotter's SNY, Gorton explains all the reasoning for the picks.

https://www.sny.tv/ranger...t-rfas-and-more/282594020
- rrentz[url]

Pretty good interview. Think he gives Grabs a call?

Pretty good interview. Think he gives Grabs a call?
- Fenrir

For a little more than his past contract in $$/years? Sure. Him sucking in playoffs gives NYR some leverage on that I'd assume. For 3-3.5 he's probably looking for? Hell no


There's still a ton of work to do ..that's for sure. NYR will probably accumulate some picks for next year when one or more of Nam, Spooner, and others get traded as well