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KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET


Honestly though this is the last time i follow a Rangers draft. They will never draft the players we want. Will always go off the board. I will just start reading about it the next day

- TPC

It wasn't about players we wanted but actually making sense with the pick, no need for a goaltender at 39 and run of 5 defensemen out of 6 picks, mind boggling how they left some of that talent on the board not to mention drafting on scout's son in the 7th round while passing on another front office member's nephew who's actually talented in the 2nd, I need Sather to be put in a home and have nothing to do with this organization, I hate seeing his old wrinkled face
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Call me crazy but I'm not going to get excited over the 216th pick
- mdw7413



Crazy
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
Call me crazy but I'm not going to get excited over the 216th pick
- mdw7413


If the Rangers just did what they did in the first round and drafted Wilde or Thomas with the 39th pick, I would be fine with this whole draft. I just think what they got for 39 and 48 was an epic failure.

And I don’t mind all of the defensemen. They can be assets to acquire needs eventually.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:22 PM ET
This draft had so much promise but I was let down

Better hope this Russian kid is legit

- TPC

Here is my draft recap and analogy:

You were set to bang Lisa Ann, and you waited and waited for her to show up...and who ended up showing up? Wendy the Slow Adult
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 23 @ 3:23 PM ET


Honestly though this is the last time i follow a Rangers draft. They will never draft the players we want. Will always go off the board. I will just start reading about it the next day

- TPC

They certainly seem to like to go off the board a little. Kravstov wasn't a bad pick at all, but they probably could have traded down and gotten him. Although with all the oddball picks, someone may have scooped him. Miller was a really good pick and so was Lundkvist. Today was pretty much garbage for them. They obviously have a very heavy preference for (in no particular order) Swedes, Russians, and USNTDP defenseman.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:24 PM ET
It wasn't about players we wanted but actually making sense with the pick, no need for a goaltender at 39 and run of 5 defensemen out of 6 picks, mind boggling how they left some of that talent on the board not to mention drafting on scout's son in the 7th round while passing on another front office member's nephew who's actually talented in the 2nd, I need Sather to be put in a home and have nothing to do with this organization, I hate seeing his old wrinkled face
- KreiderBomb


In the end, they’ll be judged by how it turns out. But feel like they could have managed the pick assets much better.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
Jeff Cox


@JeffCoxSports
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St. Seb's RW Riley Hughes, a Northeastern commit, taken 216th by New York Rangers. Has size, skating, shot and vision. Needs to play more in the dirty areas, but has the physical tools.

- jimbro83

CapFriendly says otherwise
https://www.capfriendly.com/draft
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
They certainly seem to like to go off the board a little. Kravstov wasn't a bad pick at all, but they probably could have traded down and gotten him. Although with all the oddball picks, someone may have scooped him. Miller was a really good pick and so was Lundkvist. Today was pretty much garbage for them. They obviously have a very heavy preference for (in no particular order) Swedes, Russians, and USNTDP defenseman.
- eichiefs9


Funny based on the convo we had a couple of weeks back, the Islanders definitely aren’t afraid to draft guys with some character concerns in late first early second.

Hadn’t heard of the Wilde character issues until recently.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
It wasn't about players we wanted but actually making sense with the pick, no need for a goaltender at 39 and run of 5 defensemen out of 6 picks, mind boggling how they left some of that talent on the board not to mention drafting on scout's son in the 7th round while passing on another front office member's nephew who's actually talented in the 2nd, I need Sather to be put in a home and have nothing to do with this organization, I hate seeing his old wrinkled face
- KreiderBomb


I think this is all Gorton

the philosophy of only drafting Europeans, to ignore the CHL, that doesn't sound like Glen Sather to me, that's all Gorton
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:26 PM ET
In the end, they’ll be judged by how it turns out. But feel like they could have managed the pick assets much better.
- Pete V

The worst part is it leaves a bitter taste in your mouth for however amount of years and with no guarantee it ever leaves the tongue
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
CapFriendly says otherwise
https://www.capfriendly.com/draft

- 21peter


they need to fix that then
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
they need to fix that then
- jimbro83

not the first time they're FakeNews

I wan't CapGeek back
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
this was a bad day
- jimbro83

KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:36 PM ET

- mdw7413

When Jimmy, myself and Tom all agree you know it's bad, poop even Michigan Pete is a bit down on today
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Renaud Lavoie@renlavoietva
Philipp Grubauer contract with @Avalanche is 3 years. Total will be around $10M #tvasports
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
When Jimmy, myself and Tom all agree you know it's bad, poop even Michigan Pete is a bit down on today
- KreiderBomb


I'm a bit annoyed about the goalie pick. I need from someone on the Rangers to come out and say that Allaire says the guy will be a star. Make my cockles warmer
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Jun 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Now what
OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Jun 23 @ 3:52 PM ET
Now what
- picklerick

Punt....
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
Why would you pick a goalie at 39 when you have Woll, Georgiev, Shesterkin, Halversson and Huska. Why?
- tomburton99

I'm not defending their goalie selection at #39, instead of choosing one as a "hit or miss" with no higher than their 88th pick (witness Hank at #205). However, I feel the Rangers have the most confidence in Georgiev being Hank's successor out of all their prospects. That's why they are currently searching for an experienced backup to Hank, ONLY for purposes to allow Georgiev to develop further for the full season as a #1 starter below, with Hank still around.
Halverson is a level below Georgiev, and when given his chance, has not performed well enough to the task. Woll and Huska also trail Georgiev in development at this point. But most of all, there first is no 100% guarantee that Shesterkin will ever want to leave his native country when his contract expires. In addition, Steve Valliquette has stated on MSG that in watching Shesterkin's games, on top of his good hand/arm/gloves reflexes when not moving his feet, he otherwise relies far greater on his size and positioning to have "more pucks hit him", rather than having enough mobility and agility to make the toughest of saves.
Valiquette also believes today's game's faster speed and skill will shorten both the length of skaters' & goalies careers, with goalies having to be more agile & mobile to survive. He added that goalie equipment modification rules will also put further strain on them, leading to a drop in bigger size goalies in the NHL. That is due to the greater physical strain it will require, especially on their hips and knees when going up and down not only in games, but numerous times at practice as well. Why in addition to that Kreider/Price unfortunate incident, is it that Price has had his later further injury woes? It's due to that required "wear and tear" at 6'3" and 215 pounds in his style of play.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 23 @ 4:04 PM ET
I'm not defending that pick, in it being selected at #39 instead of choosing a goalie as a "hit or miss" with no higher than their 88th pick (witness Hank at #205). However, I feel that out of anyone their property right now, the Rangers have the most confidence in ONLY Georgiev to be Hank's heir apparent. They are currently in search for an experienced backup to Hank, ONLY for purposes to allow Georgiev to develop further for at least one full season as a #1 starter below, while Hank is still around.
Halverson is ranked a level below Georgiev, and when given his chance, has not performed well enough to the task. Woll and Huska also trail Georgiev in development at this point. But most of all, there first is no 100% guarantee that Shesterkin will ever want to leave his native country when his contract expires. In addition, Steve Valliquette has stated in the past on MSG that in watching Shesterkin's games, he relies far greater on his size and positioning for "more pucks to hit him", rather than having enough mobility and agility to make the toughest of saves. Valiquette also believes that with today's greater speed and skill in the game, that in addition to skaters careers ending at earlier ages than ever, goal tenders have to be more agile & mobile to last for any length of success as well. He also stated that as goalie equipment modification rules put more of a strain on goalies, the percentage of bigger size goalies around will gradually decrease. That is due to their greater physical strain that would be required and put especially on their hips, when going up and down on the ice not only in games, but at practice as well for numerous times a season.

- RangerSaver


Your blinding me!! Your blinding me with science!!
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
I'm not defending that pick, in it being selected at #39 instead of choosing a goalie as a "hit or miss" with no higher than their 88th pick (witness Hank at #205). However, I feel that out of anyone their property right now, the Rangers have the most confidence in ONLY Georgiev to be Hank's heir apparent. They are currently in search for an experienced backup to Hank, ONLY for purposes to allow Georgiev to develop further for at least one full season as a #1 starter below, while Hank is still around.
Halverson is ranked a level below Georgiev, and when given his chance, has not performed well enough to the task. Woll and Huska also trail Georgiev in development at this point. But most of all, there first is no 100% guarantee that Shesterkin will ever want to leave his native country when his contract expires. In addition, Steve Valliquette has stated in the past on MSG that in watching Shesterkin's games, he relies far greater on his size and positioning for "more pucks to hit him", rather than having enough mobility and agility to make the toughest of saves. Valiquette also believes that with today's greater speed and skill in the game, that in addition to skaters careers ending at earlier ages than ever, goal tenders have to be more agile & mobile to last for any length of success as well. He also stated that as goalie equipment modification rules put more of a strain on goalies, the percentage of bigger size goalies around will gradually decrease. That is due to their greater physical strain that would be required and put especially on their hips, when going up and down on the ice not only in games, but at practice as well for numerous times a season.

- RangerSaver



Well said. I guess that NYR and Co. Didn't think he would be around past #39 pick. Obviously, they are talking to other teams and have a much better pupse on what will actually happen with subsequent picks by other teams.

Now that crazy season part 1 has ended, llwe will be sure to hear from Gorton why they made the picks when they did. All and all...the Defense has been restocked.

Howden, Xhytil, and Andersson are three good centers we will have for years to come and Russian kid could be next Kuznetsov. And....Miller is considered to be fun with highest ceiling in whole draft!

All will be good
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:15 PM ET
I'm a bit annoyed about the goalie pick. I need from someone on the Rangers to come out and say that Allaire says the guy will be a star. Make my cockles warmer
- mdw7413


it's definitely what bothers me most

And I dont subscribe to the theory that "too many good goalies is a good problem to have"

it's actually a bad problem, it prevents one from becoming the clear cut, goalies never have good trade value. We saw it with Montoya, once Hank took over, he never had a chance and we got nothing for him.

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 4:26 PM ET


With the information WE have I get your frustration, but we don't know shiiit

- rrentz



I can admit that you are essentially right, but I would love to have an explanation on why they felt that goalie couldn’t be had with their next pick, especially with who was left on the board. Or, why they traded a pick to move up and select someone they had a 99% chance of taking at 26. Or, why they couldn’t trade down 4 or 5 spots and still have taken their guy with the first pick.

That’s all it is. I don’t hate the picks. And I certainly won’t do anything other than cheer for all of them to succeed.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
I can admit that you are essentially right, but I would love to have an explanation on why they felt that goalie couldn’t be had with their next pick, especially with who was left on the board. Or, why they traded a pick to move up and select someone they had a 99% chance of taking at 26. Or, why they couldn’t trade down 4 or 5 spots and still have taken their guy with the first pick.

That’s all it is. I don’t hate the picks. And I certainly won’t do anything other than cheer for all of them to succeed.

- Tonybere



I agree w/ you, but who knows what the chatter was on the draft floor. Maybe Gorton will be giving a few explanations in the days to come. I hope, otherwise the guys this blog will explode..
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jun 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
I don't think it's that random

I think they really like all these guys, scouted them heavily, they just have almost zero interest in Canadian hockey players now though

- jimbro83



Obviously, I’m a little biased, but it’s not a good strategy.
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