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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:46 AM ET
My dog is smarter than Bode Wilde



There's a reason teams kept passing on a big dman who can skate and has offensive skills. He's dumber than a pet rock. Same reason why Veleno fell despite skating like the wind and have some good puck skills as a Center in a weak draft for C's.


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:47 AM ET
Ginning
- VANTEL

Oh....not sure at 37 but maybe. (frank) I’m pumped for 37
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:48 AM ET
My dog is smarter than Bode Wilde



There's a reason teams kept passing on a big dman who can skate and has offensive skills. He's dumber than a pet rock. Same reason why Veleno fell despite skating like the wind and have some good puck skills as a Center in a weak draft for C's.



Berggren, Tychonick or Noel. Can live with Samuelsson or McIsaac as well.

- Nucker101

Can’t disagree. Always found it bizarre Wilde was ranked above Miller
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 2:58 AM ET
Honestly didn't even watch the draft and just looking at all the picks now.


Looking at my list, this would be my BPA for 37

1. Berggren
2. Tychonick
3. Samuelsson
4. Wise
5. Hallander
6. Noel

Edit: forgot to add Noel

McLeod and McIsaac, I'd be OK with

Drafting Berggren would make up for a lot of the things Benning has done that have annoyed me. Rest of the draft would just be gravy. Tychonick would be pretty damn amazing too.

Other 4 would have me pretty pleased. I'm sceptical of Noel, but his upside is hard to resist.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:01 AM ET
Honestly didn't even watch the draft and just looking at all the picks now.


Looking at my list, this would be my BPA for 37

1. Berggren
2. Tychonick
3. Samuelsson
4. Wise
5. Hallander


McLeod and McIsaac, I'd be OK with

- Nucker101


No Marchenko?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:04 AM ET
No Marchenko?
- DrChristianTroy


If we're going Russian, I really like Bulat Shafigullin and he'd be right after Tychonick for me.



But I'm guessing KHL/MHL Russians are off the table after the Tryamkin fiasco so I didn't bother listing any of them.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:14 AM ET
Damn Benning was pumped after that pick. Never seen him that excited lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:18 AM ET
Damn Benning was pumped after that pick. Never seen him that excited lol
- Nucker101

They had Hughes at 3 on their list
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:18 AM ET
If we're going Russian, I really like Bulat Shafigullin and he'd be right after Tychonick for me.



But I'm guessing KHL/MHL Russians are off the table after the Tryamkin fiasco so I didn't bother listing any of them.

- Nucker101


They’d be wise to give Tryamkin a comrade... This is all setting up very nicely for a few years from now.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:21 AM ET
They’d be wise to give Tryamkin a comrade... This is all setting up very nicely for a few years from now.
- DrChristianTroy

Drafting a player to appease a number 6 dman from Russia is next level stupid
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:23 AM ET
They had Hughes at 3 on their list
- CanuckDon

Above Zadina? wow


Source? Is this known? I’m out of the loop, I was hiking with no cell phone service, and am just getting caught up now lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:24 AM ET
They’d be wise to give Tryamkin a comrade... This is all setting up very nicely for a few years from now.
- DrChristianTroy


I just don’t think they’ll do it, maybe in the 5th round or later but even then I’m sceptical.


Who else do you like outside of Berggren and Marchenko?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 23 @ 3:25 AM ET
Above Zadina? wow


Source? Is this known? I’m out of the loop, I was hiking with no cell phone service and am just getting caught up now lol

- Nucker101

That’s the rumour from solid sources. I’m just glad Zadina was gone as I would have a real hard time if we passed on him. Also, where are you hiking?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:26 AM ET
That’s the rumour from solid sources. I’m just glad Zadina was gone as I would have a real hard time if we passed on him.
- CanuckDon


Interesting...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:28 AM ET
Don’t like Wilde (brain) or Woo. Tychonick would be nice...but damn we need a RHD prospect
- CanuckDon


OJ & Hughes LHD but Hughes said Right is fine
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:32 AM ET
My dog is smarter than Bode Wilde



There's a reason teams kept passing on a big dman who can skate and has offensive skills. He's dumber than a pet rock. Same reason why Veleno fell despite skating like the wind and have some good puck skills as a Center in a weak draft for C's.

- Nucker101

So Jake Virtanen as a dman?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:33 AM ET
OJ & Hughes LHD but Hughes said Right is fine
- Nighthawk


Can always make trades later, just keep collecting the best young talent that's available in the draft regardless of handedness or position. Less chance of busts and a higher chance of finding future core players that way.


David Poile even said that Nashville loading up on defense in previous drafts was not by design, they just took BPA and it usually happened to be a dman.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 23 @ 3:34 AM ET
Drafting a player to appease a number 6 dman from Russia is next level stupid
- CanuckDon


Not appease... Just make his work environment a bit more tolerable. I think you really underrate his potential.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:34 AM ET
So Jake Virtanen as a dman?
- LeftCoaster


Pretty much.




Seems like NHL scouts/GM's have the same concerns.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:35 AM ET
Can always make trades later, just keep collecting the best young talent that's available in the draft regardless of handedness or position. Less chance of busts and a higher chance of finding future core players that way.


David Poile even said that Nashville loading up on defense in previous drafts was not by design, they just took BPA and it usually happened to be a dman.

- Nucker101


More picks to come too.
The prospect pool is staggering for us
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:36 AM ET
Pretty much.




Seems like NHL scouts/GM's have the same concerns.

- Nucker101

stay away then!!!!! Go Tychonick or Samuelsson. Take Jett Woo in the 3rd.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:37 AM ET
They’d be wise to give Tryamkin a comrade... This is all setting up very nicely for a few years from now.
- DrChristianTroy

hes got goldy
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 23 @ 3:38 AM ET
Can’t disagree. Always found it bizarre Wilde was ranked above Miller
- CanuckDon

his numbers were better.. i take him all day tomorrow.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 23 @ 3:41 AM ET
@Nucker...

I told you Chayka was a different cat, he marches to the beat of his own drum, I had a feeling he'd go off on his own.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 23 @ 3:45 AM ET
stay away then!!!!! Go Tychonick or Samuelsson. Take Jett Woo in the 3rd.
- LeftCoaster


Good scouting reports on these 2:

Tychonick:
A defenseman out of the esteemed Penticton Vees of the BCHL and a North Dakota recruit, Tychonick plays a clinical game where it’s hard to identify that at which he’s not above average. Tychonick has interesting abilities as a plus skater, stick handler, and thinker.

He’s a hair less than 6 feet, but on top of generally reading the play well defensively, he has a chippy quality to his game and plays above size in 1-on-1s, and he has a frame that should fill out. Defense is no issue with him beyond the occasional too aggressive play.

With the puck he plays fast making his reads and getting pucks up — and he’s a beauty passer, hard and on the tape. He has a quality shot too, in all forms (even an effective fake slap shot to get people to bite). But he’s never shy about jumping up into the rush. He does have the tendency to play rather straight line and fast offensively, not exactly being the most patient of with pucks. It’s always attacking with him.

In my viewings for Canada’s u18 team, his offense often wasn’t demanded of him in a 3rd pair role, with PK time. But as the games went on and Canada’s defensive group proved less than stellar, Tychonick got a usage bump to play on the top pair with Ty Smith, along with more time on Canada’s struggling PP. Lo and behold, that skill he would flash in a smaller role, materialized into more assertive offense generating. Canada had an issue all tournament with defensemen not shooting — Tychonick helped change that. It wouldn’t be a stretch to call him, from beginning to end of the tournament, Canada’s most consistent and effective d-man, even if it wasn’t always justified by his usage.



Samuelsson:

He's very mature and has a lot of what you'd look for in a modern defensive dman. He’s a beast physically in 1-on-1s to change possession along the boards or against the rush, keeps tight gaps, is a powerful skater, smart with coverages, will join rushes from time to time, gets shots on net and works the cycle game and pinches at good times, competent enough breakout passer (though surely would benefit from a good puck moving partner).

He’s not a slug or a physical guy who can’t play in today’s game. He’s a very good defensive d-man tailor made for a puck possession game. I cannot imagine him being a bad pick wherever he goes, though the question of upside inevitably will be asked. But I think his upside can be a 2nd pair shutdown guy at ES/PK, and there's value in how much of a known quantity he is and how good he is at what he does.

He also spent a large chunk of the season for the U.S. National Development Team playing both sides, and to my eye, equipped himself well at either, despite a lack of especially good puck skills. With Mattias you get the picture of consistency and competence, with the floor of a close to readymade NHL defender.
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