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Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:34 AM ET
I love how people keep saying the league has 'evolved'. I call poop on that. You have always needed a COMBINATION of offensively gifted players as well as solid defenders. Has that even not been the case?

It just seems we have this type of player in abundance already... but whatever, its the 29th pick so meh

- Hockey_Reverend



Nashville already had Weber, Josi, Ekholm, and Ellis. Yet they still drafted Jones.


Draft BPA regardless, develop them, then trade for need of equal value.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
I love how people keep saying the league has 'evolved'. I call poop on that. You have always needed a COMBINATION of offensively gifted players as well as solid defenders. Has that even not been the case?

It just seems we have this type of player in abundance already... but whatever, its the 29th pick so meh

- Hockey_Reverend


My problem with the "league evolving" theory is that it seems to be true for the regular season, but you still need size, and toughness in the playoffs because they still completely change the way the game is called.

Hockey_Reverend
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jun 23 @ 8:37 AM ET
My problem with the "league evolving" theory is that it seems to be true for the regular season, but you still need size, and toughness in the playoffs because they still completely change the way the game is called.
- Aetherial

THIS
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 23 @ 8:38 AM ET
My problem with the "league evolving" theory is that it seems to be true for the regular season, but you still need size, and toughness in the playoffs because they still completely change the way the game is called.
- Aetherial

It’s part of the reason you saw someone like Ryan Reaves get traded for a 1st round pick at the deadline.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:39 AM ET
I love how people keep saying the league has 'evolved'. I call poop on that. You have always needed a COMBINATION of offensively gifted players as well as solid defenders. Has that even not been the case?

It just seems we have this type of player in abundance already... but whatever, its the 29th pick so meh

- Hockey_Reverend

From what I've seen of dermott ..he looks like a good combination to me.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:40 AM ET
It’s part of the reason you saw someone like Ryan Reaves get traded for a 1st round pick at the deadline.
- RickJames77



He was a part of the three-way (nice) trade with LOLtawa and Pittsburgh.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:40 AM ET
I love how people keep saying the league has 'evolved'. I call poop on that. You have always needed a COMBINATION of offensively gifted players as well as solid defenders. Has that even not been the case?

It just seems we have this type of player in abundance already... but whatever, its the 29th pick so meh

- Hockey_Reverend



Then you haven't been paying attention to the league.

I never said you didn't need to be good defender.

Sandin is a good defender by all accounts.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:42 AM ET
My problem with the "league evolving" theory is that it seems to be true for the regular season, but you still need size, and toughness in the playoffs because they still completely change the way the game is called.
- Aetherial



Who said you don't need toughness
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:44 AM ET
So no one has any hopes for round 2?
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:46 AM ET
So no one has any hopes for round 2?
- mykokes



I hope they draft the biggest, slowest player so people will shut up about size. Who do they think they are...FCN’s wife?




mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jun 23 @ 8:48 AM ET
I hope they draft the biggest, slowest player so people will shut up about size. Who do they think they are...FCN’s wife?





- Steven_Seagull

Lol.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:48 AM ET
Who said you don't need toughness
- burn


That is what you took from my post?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:49 AM ET
I hope they draft the biggest, slowest player so people will shut up about size. Who do they think they are...FCN’s wife?





- Steven_Seagull


Maybe Tyler Biggs has re-entered the draft.

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 8:50 AM ET
People just got to complain about something. It's hilarious.

I'm more interested in the other times dubas has lost while trading down

- burn

Leafs fans rate Konecny a lot more highly the Flyers fans do
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:53 AM ET
Leafs fans rate Konecny a lot more highly the Flyers fans do
- walshyleafsfan


?

Is that true? I haven't really been on the Philly boards.

He seems like a good player, but then so does Dermott.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:54 AM ET
That is what you took from my post?
- Aetherial



"You still need toughness cause they change the way the game is called in the playoffs"

Doesn't seem like I misinterpreted
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:55 AM ET
Leafs fans rate Konecny a lot more highly the Flyers fans do
- walshyleafsfan



Because they covet what they don't have

I think Dermott is better.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 23 @ 8:56 AM ET
Maybe Tyler Biggs has re-entered the draft.


- Aetherial



Even though I referenced him already, I only used his last name. Seeing his full name...I...just...can’t...


Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:58 AM ET
"You still need toughness cause they change the way the game is called in the playoffs"

Doesn't seem like I misinterpreted

- burn


1) The post was about how the league has evolved in the regular season, not so much in the playoffs. This is true. You can disagree. I don't care.

2) If you are going to actually put quotes around something I said, don't intentionally leave out the word "SIZE". That was a big part of the discussion.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 8:59 AM ET
Even though I referenced him already, I only used his last name. Seeing his full name...I...just...can’t...



- Steven_Seagull


MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Jun 23 @ 9:03 AM ET
Because they covet what they don't have

I think Dermott is better.

- burn

i agree.
dermott was a very solid pick, and i like him better than konecny (at least for leafs needs).
i think dermott might eventually surpass rielly on leafs' d depth chart and will become the 1st line lhd.

my problem with moving down is that there is a risk another team gets 'your' player. at draft, leafs weren't that high on dermott nor sandin now - if you are, you don't move down (if anything, you move up to get your guy)
bluestar
Location: ON
Joined: 12.20.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
In my opinion Sandin is a clone of Liljegren, same height and same style of offensive d-man.

I would have taken Valero or McLeod who are big centers that they need.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jun 23 @ 9:08 AM ET
sandin couldnt have been the guy dubas really wanted, since trading down doesnt guarantee that other teams on 25-28 would not pick him.
so it seems that leafs werent really convinced that any of the guys available there was really a guarantee to going to better than the others - and trading down a bit was beneficial.

if you pour millions in scouting and still are not very sure about what players might be better than the rest, that's not a good sign.
or maybe the scouts were very clear, bit dubas just does not give them enough credit and he wants to be the clever guy..

you can say about fenton and wild what you want - but they feel the swedish d-man will become a good nhl-er and they pick him 'off tbe board' instead of hoping he is still around later.

- MaximusAurelius

What?

Seriously. When did we become so stupid?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 23 @ 9:10 AM ET
What?

Seriously. When did we become so stupid?

- walshyleafsfan


I just noticed your location
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 23 @ 9:11 AM ET
He was a part of the three-way (nice) trade with LOLtawa and Pittsburgh.
- Steven_Seagull

I wasn’t talking about this year. I should’ve clarified. I was referring to the year he was sent to Pittsburgh for their 1st and then they won the cup. It fit his point well.
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