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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
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As noted by @BDGallof, Garth Snow is here in Dallas with the #Isles contingent. Don’t know if he’ll be at the draft table tonight.

10:01 AM - 22 Jun 2018

- jimbro83
lous gofer boy. Get me coffee god damn it and make it snappy and black!
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
I tried to trade this guy 20 times during our mock draft




@MurphysLaw74
18s19 seconds ago

Keep hearing #FLAPanthers D Alex Petrovic will be on the move this weekend. I'd keep an eye on #LAKings and #Oilers. #NHLDraft
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:10 AM ET
hes like hanging around the table with no seat trying to pick up all the phones that are ringing
- mrn22

Haha that’s funny

Like running from phone to phone but someone else picks it up
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:11 AM ET
Great blog Jan. I agree with you for the Rangers to first target Zadina for his creativity and sniper ability, and then Wahlstrom for his sniper ability. So the question is, will it be necessary to move up from the 9th pick to guarantee that one or the other will still be available then? For Zadina, I believe yes, and for Wahlstrom, possibly not. But is it worth it to waste an asset(s) of any type to move up from #9? I only would do so should Zadina be their actual first target, if his value hasn't fallen from a top 5 pick, to as low as a #9 on one source's mock draft mentioned on a blog of your's earlier this week.
But generally speaking, after Buffalo selects Dahlin as #1 overall, the question of moving up from #9 will depend on teams drafting from 2nd to 6th or even 7th, as to whether those teams will be doing so for either the best player available, or to first fill their own critical position need. That's why a trade to move up from #9 may not be in the cards until after the first two to four picks are selected. But the drawback is that Zadina could be gone by after pick #5 as was originally expected, prior to the Combine held in Buffalo. If so, I would shift instead to targeting Tkachuk in whatever means necessary.
In addition, under their rebuild/retool mode, it makes no sense to trade Skjei or Hayes, without knowing they can be replaced with the same in some means. If they want to include alone picks #'s 26 &/or 28, or those up to their 48th to either move up in Round One, or acquire a significant current young player, then if it will fill a huge need, they may just have to do so.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
I tried to trade this guy 20 times during our mock draft




@MurphysLaw74
18s19 seconds ago

Keep hearing #FLAPanthers D Alex Petrovic will be on the move this weekend. I'd keep an eye on #LAKings and #Oilers. #NHLDraft

- jimbro83

Do you follow like all the worst hockey people on Twitter?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:12 AM ET
Great blog Jan. I agree with you for the Rangers to first target Zadina for his creativity and sniper ability, and then Wahlstrom for his sniper ability. So the question is, will it be necessary to move up from the 9th pick to guarantee that one or the other will still be available then? For Zadina, I believe yes, and for Wahlstrom, possibly not. But is it worth it to waste an asset(s) of any type to move up from #9? I only would do so should Zadina be their actual first target, and if his value hasn't fallen from a top 5 pick, to as low as a #9 on one source's mock draft mentioned on a blog of your's earlier this week.
But generally speaking, after Buffalo selects Dahlin as #1 overall, the question of moving up from #9 will depend on teams drafting from 2nd to 6th or even 7th, as to whether those teams will be doing so for either the best player available, or to first fill their own critical position need. That's why a trade to move up from #9 may not be in the cards until after the first two to four picks are selected. But the drawback is that Zadina could be gone by after pick #5 as was originally expected, prior to the Combine held in Buffalo. If so, I would shift instead to targeting Tkachuk in whatever means necessary.
In addition, under their rebuild/retool mode, it makes no sense to trade Skjei or Hayes, without knowing they can be replaced with the same in some means. If they want to include alone picks #'s 26 &/or 28, or those up to their 48th to either move up in Round One, or acquire a significant current young player, then if it will fill a huge need, they may just have to do so.

- RangerSaver

jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
Do you follow like all the worst hockey people on Twitter?
- Feds91Stammer


I follow EVERYBODY on twitter, good and bad
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 22 @ 11:13 AM ET
I tried to trade this guy 20 times during our mock draft




@MurphysLaw74
18s19 seconds ago

Keep hearing #FLAPanthers D Alex Petrovic will be on the move this weekend. I'd keep an eye on #LAKings and #Oilers. #NHLDraft

- jimbro83

He’s no Julius Caesar Honka
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
I follow EVERYBODY on twitter, good and bad
- jimbro83


Is that really the best that twitter has to offer right now?
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 22 @ 11:14 AM ET
I did. God damn phone and auto correct. But that speaks volumes of what I do by myself. Drink and cry into pint glasses.
- tomburton99

sad if that is where you're still at
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
sup boyz

finally can stop hearing everyone and their mother's mock picks

- mrn22

I am about to publish mine...stay tuned
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
I am about to publish mine...stay tuned
- YuenglingJagr


Just wake to mock free agency next week!
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 11:15 AM ET
Hey Chiefs, there are rumors that the Senators are definitely trying to trade Craig Anderson. Think he would be a good fit for you guys? Or you think you're definitely going to make a play for Grubauer?

For the record, I hate what the Isles are doing... getting Lou & now Trotz. You guys are going to be much improved. I (frank)ing hate Lou... he's a snake.

Stupid Toronto letting Lamoriello go... this couldn't have happened next year after Tavares walks??

- TheMessiah94

Grubauer is my #1 choice but Elliotte Friedman said on the radio that 10 teams have called on him. Not sure how serious they all were, but I expect his price to be higher than many have thought.

I'd take Anderson only if we gave up almost nothing give them Greiss, to offset Anderson's $4.75M cap hit, and something like a 3rd or 4th round pick. Having two years left on his deal is a perfect bridge to Sorokin, it's just a question of "how much does he have left in the tank?" I'm not sure if last year was just the product of playing for a dogpoop team or the beginning of the end for him. Too much risk/money for me to give up anything of even remotely-significant value. It's definitely not a crazy thought though and he'd be a good fall-back option if Grubauer's price shoots through the roof and they couldn't pry Lehner out of BUF.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jun 22 @ 11:16 AM ET
Great blog Jan. I agree with you for the Rangers to first target Zadina for his creativity and sniper ability, and then Wahlstrom for his sniper ability. So the question is, will it be necessary to move up from the 9th pick to guarantee that one or the other will still be available then? For Zadina, I believe yes, and for Wahlstrom, possibly not. But is it worth it to waste an asset(s) of any type to move up from #9? I only would do so should Zadina be their actual first target, if his value hasn't fallen from a top 5 pick, to as low as a #9 on one source's mock draft mentioned on a blog of your's earlier this week.
But generally speaking, after Buffalo selects Dahlin as #1 overall, the question of moving up from #9 will depend on teams drafting from 2nd to 6th or even 7th, as to whether those teams will be doing so for either the best player available, or to first fill their own critical position need. That's why a trade to move up from #9 may not be in the cards until after the first two to four picks are selected. But the drawback is that Zadina could be gone by after pick #5 as was originally expected, prior to the Combine held in Buffalo. If so, I would shift instead to targeting Tkachuk in whatever means necessary.
In addition, under their rebuild/retool mode, it makes no sense to trade Skjei or Hayes, without knowing they can be replaced with the same in some means. If they want to include alone picks #'s 26 &/or 28, or those up to their 48th to either move up in Round One, or acquire a significant current young player, then if it will fill a huge need, they may just have to do so.

- RangerSaver

nice brick right there, Saver
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Grubauer is my #1 choice but Elliotte Friedman said on the radio that 10 teams have called on him. Not sure how serious they all were, but I expect his price to be higher than many have thought.

I'd take Anderson only if we gave up almost nothing give them Greiss, to offset Anderson's $4.75M cap hit, and something like a 3rd or 4th round pick. Having two years left on his deal is a perfect bridge to Sorokin, it's just a question of "how much does he have left in the tank?" I'm not sure if last year was just the product of playing for a dogpoop team or the beginning of the end for him. Too much risk/money for me to give up anything of even remotely-significant value. It's definitely not a crazy thought though and he'd be a good fall-back option if Grubauer's price shoots through the roof and they couldn't pry Lehner out of BUF.

- eichiefs9

tldr
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 22 @ 11:17 AM ET
Grubauer is my #1 choice but Elliotte Friedman said on the radio that 10 teams have called on him. Not sure how serious they all were, but I expect his price to be higher than many have thought.

I'd take Anderson only if we gave up almost nothing give them Greiss, to offset Anderson's $4.75M cap hit, and something like a 3rd or 4th round pick. Having two years left on his deal is a perfect bridge to Sorokin, it's just a question of "how much does he have left in the tank?" I'm not sure if last year was just the product of playing for a dogpoop team or the beginning of the end for him. Too much risk/money for me to give up anything of even remotely-significant value. It's definitely not a crazy thought though and he'd be a good fall-back option if Grubauer's price shoots through the roof and they couldn't pry Lehner out of BUF.

- eichiefs9



Didn't Lehner get flat-out released yesterday?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:18 AM ET
I follow EVERYBODY on twitter, good and bad
- jimbro83

I used to follow so many of the hockey stats nerds but man they are all SJWs. Had to unfollow a bunch of them.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:19 AM ET



Didn't Lehner get flat-out released yesterday?

- Pete V


if the Rangers trade up to grab Zadina I'm gonna get flat out poop-faced
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 11:19 AM ET



Didn't Lehner get flat-out released yesterday?

- Pete V

Oh wow, they didn't give him a qualifying offer so he might be a UFA July 1st. I didn't see that, good call.


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:19 AM ET



Didn't Lehner get flat-out released yesterday?

- Pete V

Won't be qualified so he will become a UFA.

He is a bum though. NHL backup imo.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
if the Rangers trade up to grab Zadina I'm gonna get flat out poop-faced
- jimbro83

Nam 26 and 28 for Zadina?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 22 @ 11:20 AM ET
Nam 26 and 28 for Zadina?
- Feds91Stammer


YES
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Jun 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
Won't be qualified so he will become a UFA.

He is a bum though. NHL backup imo.

- Feds91Stammer


gunna fit right in as the isles starter
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 22 @ 11:21 AM ET
Won't be qualified so he will become a UFA.

He is a bum though. NHL backup imo.

- Feds91Stammer

It's entirely possible, but he's never played for a team with a shred of talent...ever.

I think there might be more there than meets the eye. That said, he's going to make too much money for there to be value in signing him.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 22 @ 11:22 AM ET
It's entirely possible, but he's never played for a team with a shred of talent...ever.

I think there might be more there than meets the eye. That said, he's going to make too much money for there to be value in signing him.

- eichiefs9

Who drives up the price? CAR or DET?
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