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2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Jun 22 @ 12:10 PM ET
Petan got the opportunities that he earned. Lacks grit and his speed is good but not great.
There is no comparing Petan to Perreault. Perreault is not a soft player.
I just don't see Petan being a top 6 or top 9 for any team in the league.
I wish it was different for him, but it just isn't.

- bennythehat


Petan may crack the top 6 but not on a team in the top 1/4 of the league.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
Yawn~!
- 2.0


Speaking of yawning, anyone hear that radio interview with Chevy? He said himself that Petan hasn’t been given a fair shot, not had he been given the chance to play with good players

That yawn thing was a weird segue
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
Petan may crack the top 6 but not on a team in the top 1/4 of the league.
- 2.0


He doesn’t have to play top 6. Any team trying to compete rolls 3 (or even 4) scoring lines
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
happy draft day female doges
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'll type this one slowly, so it will sink in.

Petan is not a checking center and he is not a 4th liner. His skill set (certainly in Junior and the AHL) is that of a playmaking offensive center. He can only succeed if he plays that role. Therefore, he has to be on one of the top 2 lines on most teams.

Last season, he wasn't going to beat out Schiefele, Little or Lowry for a center spot.
Add in Stastny and it got even tougher. On the left wing, he wasn't going to beat out Connor, Ehlers, or Perreault.

It's not going to get any easier for Petan.

You can argue that he didn't get a great chance, but it was up to Petan to grab whatever opportunity that he was given and make something out of it. He did not.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Jun 22 @ 7:23 PM ET
I'll type this one slowly, so it will sink in.

Petan is not a checking center and he is not a 4th liner. His skill set (certainly in Junior and the AHL) is that of a playmaking offensive center. He can only succeed if he plays that role. Therefore, he has to be on one of the top 2 lines on most teams.

Last season, he wasn't going to beat out Schiefele, Little or Lowry for a center spot.
Add in Stastny and it got even tougher. On the left wing, he wasn't going to beat out Connor, Ehlers, or Perreault.

It's not going to get any easier for Petan.

You can argue that he didn't get a great chance, but it was up to Petan to grab whatever opportunity that he was given and make something out of it. He did not.

- bennythehat


He played RW all season with the Moose
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Jun 23 @ 9:23 AM ET
He played RW all season with the Moose
- Rexypoo


Couldn’t even make the Moose at his natural position.
He wasn’t beating out wheeler, Laine or Armia for a RW spot in our top 9 and not Roslovic either .
brockferens
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 12:50 PM ET
I would do the Frolik deal with you (when he was traded from the Blackhawks to Jets).

To PHI: Mathieu Perreault

To WPG: 2018 2nd round pick, 2018 3rd round pick

- TheUltimateJet


If I'm Chevy I sign off on this trade ASAP.

While MP at 3 Per during the end of his 20s was serious value, a 30+ year old injury prone player, and yes he does drive the play... But at the same time he's a undersized forward, on the wrong side of 30, substantial injury history... Whose owed 4.1 mil for the next 3 years... My thought is, I'd rather them move him while they can gain an asset, as opposed to including an asset just to sink his contact.

Petans ELC is over, no reason to keep sand bagging him. Sign him to a contact that will look like a robbery in 2 years, then let him take MPs spot.







brockferens
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:08 PM ET
Couldn’t even make the Moose at his natural position.
He wasn’t beating out wheeler, Laine or Armia for a RW spot in our top 9 and not Roslovic either .

- bennythehat


Roslo played almost exclusively W with the Moose, also not his DRAFTED position. Realistically, Petans probably to small to be a C.

The Jets handled Connor in a very similar manner, he did start the year across the hall. The major difference is Connor got put on the 1st line (because of injury, but his development took off regardless), and did enough to where a demotion was the 2nd or 3rd line.

If Connor doesn't play with Scheif, and Wheeler he's not where he is today. Petans never been given that opportunity.
brockferens
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
You were literally provided with evidence showing how underused they have been here, and that they are in fact NHL players. It’s not a tired, dead narrative, it’s an increasingly concerning one of a GM allowing his coach to run valuable young players into the ground. He cant trade them now that their value on the market is gone, and he doesn’t have the balls to force Maurice’s hand
- Rexypoo


Edmonton got Adam Larsson for Taylor Hall... Look at our return for Kane, and a lesser extent Bogo. If you don't include this past season, it was never about icing the best possible team. It was development, and draft picks with a cloak of "We want to win". It's your fault if you didn't see that, or feel differently.

There was absolutely some questionable roster moves again this year... But if you feel like you can justify whining about a front office (and ownership that trusted the process) because they sand bagged Petan... We finished with the 2nd best offence, 5 best defense, 114 points and a trip to the Western Conference Finals (While missing one of the best Centres in the league for 22 games, and 97 lost from our top 4 dmen)...

Petan hasn't gotten a fair chance, but at the sametime he should of never let players get ahead of him on the depth chart.

Last offseason fans had every right to doubt the front office, but after this past season, the only way you can justify chirping them is if we pull a Peter Chiarelli style implosion.







brockferens
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 2:20 PM ET
I'll type this one slowly, so it will sink in.

Petan is not a checking center and he is not a 4th liner. His skill set (certainly in Junior and the AHL) is that of a playmaking offensive center. He can only succeed if he plays that role. Therefore, he has to be on one of the top 2 lines on most teams.

Last season, he wasn't going to beat out Schiefele, Little or Lowry for a center spot.
Add in Stastny and it got even tougher. On the left wing, he wasn't going to beat out Connor, Ehlers, or Perreault.

It's not going to get any easier for Petan.

You can argue that he didn't get a great chance, but it was up to Petan to grab whatever opportunity that he was given and make something out of it. He did not.

- bennythehat




Except, he kind of did. Playing top 6 minutes with Moose he was a point per game player, playing 6 to 9 minutes with grinders who probably wouldn't make half the teams in the NHL... What good is being a playmaker, when the linemate your setting up can't even hit the puck.
brockferens
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 04.19.2014

Jun 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
Petan played 95 NHL games including 3/4 of the 2016-17 NHL season. He had chances on all the lines and lots of PP time. Seriously, how much more chance could the Jets possibly afford to give him? He was given every opportunity.

There are plenty of examples of a slick passing high scoring prodigy in junior that never panned out. Gilbert Brule, Daniel Tkaczuk, Pavel Brendl, etc.

The one positive factor that I can say about Petan is that he is working extremely hard to work on the aspects of his game that he knows he needs to improve on. Maybe he will turn out OK by getting there through pure determination. I personally hope so but I am also a realist that doesn't see him displacing anyone on the Jets.

- jetsnation


I feel like your train of thought isn't fair to Petan. It makes sense, and your not totally wrong.

Connor was treated very similar to Petan in regards to development and produced similar numbers with the Moose. Connor started the year with the Moose, If it wasn't for an injury call up, followed by a bad game by the Jets as a whole, which resulted in Connor going from the 2nd line, to the first line... We might be saying the same thing about a skater that scored 31 goals in his rookie year. 85%+ of the games you mentioned he either played less than 10 minutes, and/or usually with Thorburn. He's not Crosby, he can't take a guy with the talent of a dead horse and make him Chris Kunitz.

If you can show me a 2 - 5 game stretches where he played 15+ minutes in the top 6, I'll accept your premise he was given a fair chance to succeed.


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