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thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:17 PM ET
Until he isn’t.

Gudbadson is a terrible NHL defenseman, at any salary.

The cap savings of sending a player down is now up over $1m. I believe it was $1.05m last season, and will likely increase with the higher cap.

- 1970vintage

You’re wrong. Gudbransen is a good player when he’s not pair with fu@king Hutton or some other scrub that has no business in the NHL.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 21 @ 8:19 PM ET
You’re wrong. Gudbransen is a good player when he’s not pair with fu@king Hutton or some other scrub that has no business in the NHL.
- thundachunk

As I have stated. When paired with a proper #3 like Edler he has looked like a proper #4. he just can't be the #3 to someones #4 or #5. he is a #4 dman.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:19 PM ET
Guddy is this generations, until Bryan Glynn comes along and replaces him.😢
- carsonagenic

How dare you say he who shall not be named in Carols blog. She won’t even say his name anymore. Nobody is worse than he who shall not be named.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:19 PM ET
Nothing new really...although, he indicated that he thinks a froward they like will drop due to Kotkanimi rising. He also said the org doesn’t view Tkachuk or Whalstrom As ever being centers. Didn’t sound excited about Tkachuk so perhaps it’s zadina and Whally they like.

No matter what, he is going BPA In round one AND round two. After that he will focus on D. He won’t select a goalie.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
As I have stated. When paired with a proper #3 like Edler he has looked like a proper #4. he just can't be the #3 to someones #4 or #5. he is a #4 dman.
- Retinalz

He plays better with better players.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
Drafting a D in the first or second round for sure.

Not opposed to picking forward or d at 7, prefer a dman

going to be young next year, bunch of kids in the lineup.

- neem55

Lol THAT is not what he said
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:21 PM ET
Nothing new really...although, he indicated that he thinks a froward they like will drop due to Kotkanimi rising. He also said the org doesn’t view Tkachuk or Whalstrom As ever being centers. Didn’t sound excited about Tkachuk so perhaps it’s zadina and Whally they like.

No matter what, he is going BPA In round one AND round two. After that he will focus on D. He won’t select a goalie.

- CanuckDon

he specifically said if they don't pick d at 7 they will likely at 37
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:23 PM ET
Lol THAT is not what he said
- CanuckDon

i took notes donny. he said he'd prefer d at 7 but if someone reaches they'll take a forward. also said if they do its likely they'll take d in the second. one of us took notes
you are, for the umpteenth time, out of your element donny
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:25 PM ET
You’re wrong. Gudbransen is a good player when he’s not pair with fu@king Hutton or some other scrub that has no business in the NHL.
- thundachunk


Good players are good on their own and can lift a player. Spare parts rely on things being better around them.

Gudbranson's best stretches as a player have come paired with a still dope Brian Campbell and the eternally underrated Alex Edler.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:25 PM ET
Nothing new really...although, he indicated that he thinks a froward they like will drop due to Kotkanimi rising. He also said the org doesn’t view Tkachuk or Whalstrom As ever being centers. Didn’t sound excited about Tkachuk so perhaps it’s zadina and Whally they like.

No matter what, he is going BPA In round one AND round two. After that he will focus on D. He won’t select a goalie.

- CanuckDon

Personally I like Wahlstrom. Other than 2 other players he is the best skater in the draft and his shot rivals Zadina’s. He’s not as flashy as Svechnikov but I have him at 3 if he makes it to 7 we have to take him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:27 PM ET
he specifically said if they don't pick d at 7 they will likely at 37
- neem55

No he didn’t. Listen again. He said they won’t commit to taking a D because another Lind may fall. No problem taking. Forward at 37 and then focusing on D in the 3rd round and onwards
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:28 PM ET
i took notes donny. he said he'd prefer d at 7 but if someone reaches they'll take a forward. also said if they do its likely they'll take d in the second. one of us took notes
you are, for the umpteenth time, out of your element donny

- neem55

So he didn’t say they will go BPA at 37? You are either full of sh!t or can’t listen. Either way not good.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:29 PM ET
Personally I like Wahlstrom. Other than 2 other players he is the best skater in the draft and his shot rivals Zadina’s. He’s not as flashy as Svechnikov but I have him at 3 if he makes it to 7 we have to take him.
- thundachunk

I like him as well....(frank) this draft is going to be wild. No idea what to expect other than a few freak outs
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
Nothing new really...although, he indicated that he thinks a froward they like will drop due to Kotkanimi rising. He also said the org doesn’t view Tkachuk or Whalstrom As ever being centers. Didn’t sound excited about Tkachuk so perhaps it’s zadina and Whally they like.

No matter what, he is going BPA In round one AND round two. After that he will focus on D. He won’t select a goalie.

- CanuckDon


I have Dobson at #4, only 2 forwards, Svech and Zadina above him.
Hopefully he falls too us at 7.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:31 PM ET
Its not so much McCann, its misjudging Guddy as a player, his role and resigning him, and how the league changed towards players like him. Got to be ahead of the curve, not driving of the road into a ditch.
- carsonagenic


I agree on misjudging his abilities but...

It was smart to resign him if they couldn't find a decent trade. Now he has a contract and no NTC. He should actually have more trade value now than he did at the TDL.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:32 PM ET
It is running late and I am going out now so SORRY
- VANTEL


Is this the note?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:37 PM ET
Is this the note?

- boonerbuck

Neem thinks he is definitely selecting a D in the first two rounds and I said he isn’t. One of us is wrong lol
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:41 PM ET
I like him as well....(frank) this draft is going to be wild. No idea what to expect other than a few freak outs
- CanuckDon

I’m a hard pass on Bouchard at 7.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:43 PM ET
I’m a hard pass on Bouchard at 7.
- thundachunk

Better hope Dobson falls!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 21 @ 8:46 PM ET
No he didn’t. Listen again. He said they won’t commit to taking a D because another Lind may fall. No problem taking. Forward at 37 and then focusing on D in the 3rd round and onwards
- CanuckDon

He said there's depth at d, rounds 2-7. You're right he mentions Lind/sliding players but also says "if we do pick a forward in the first round, I would expect us to pick a d close after that". Also stresses BPA in the first 3 rounds but only D and F (in that order), no G.

My takeaway from this and his other interviews in the past week:

- looking for speed and skill
- Literally said "in a perfect world, we'd pick D at 7" at one point this week. I do think this is the priority (as it should be).
- probably staying at 7, likes that pick.
- If someone slides because of other teams reach for C's and D's, they'll take a winger. otherwise a dman.


thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
Neem thinks he is definitely selecting a D in the first two rounds and I said he isn’t. One of us is wrong lol
- CanuckDon

I’m married so I’m always wrong.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 21 @ 8:49 PM ET
Better hope Dobson falls!
- CanuckDon

If Dahlin and one other D are taken before 7 it will be a Defenseman taken.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 21 @ 8:50 PM ET
He said there's depth at d, rounds 2-7. You're right he mentions Lind/sliding players but also says "if we do pick a forward in the first round, I would expect us to pick a d close after that". Also stresses BPA in the first 3 rounds but only D and F (in that order), no G.

My takeaway from this and his other interviews in the past week:

- looking for speed and skill
- Literally said "in a perfect world, we'd pick D at 7" at one point this week. I do think this is the priority (as it should be).
- probably staying at 7, likes that pick.
- If someone slides because of other teams reach for C's and D's, they'll take a winger. otherwise a dman.

- neem55

He said the right things. BPA BPA
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:51 PM ET
You’re wrong. Gudbransen is a good player when he’s not pair with fu@king Hutton or some other scrub that has no business in the NHL.
- thundachunk


I’m not wrong, he is literally one of the five worst players playing in the NHL.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:53 PM ET
He plays better with better players.
- thundachunk


This is true of literally everything in life. Relationships are better with better girlfriends, work is better with better colleagues, athletes perform better with better athletes around them.
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