trading for hamonic and overpaying brower must be what you're thinking of.
- Tumbleweed

Love that zaitsev contract eh? What a bargain.

Well he brought in Dougie for a 1st and 2 2nds, while your GM traded a norris winning Dman and one of the best players in the league for shea weber.
- FLAM3SFAN

Wasn't going to get into it but ok. Hamilton (who had character concerns from a team that after losing him is now a cup contender) for a 1st round pick that could have been Barzal. Plus two 2nds. If he is in fact (big IF) on the trade market it shows it was a mistake. How is the Hamomic trade going? 5th time's gotta be the charm in finding a goalie right? Troy Brower - nuff said. How many years with the talent he started with and they're still a lottery team? Yeah...I mocked Bergevin but Flames fans shouldn't toss stones in their glass built house

While I agree that those 2 and 2OA is laughable, lindholm and hanifin for hamilton is not that great either. Lindholm is a middle 6 forward nothing special at all.

It wouldn't be a horrible trade for either team but if I were the flames I wouldn't do it because it doesn't address their #1 issue which is a first line RW. If you're trading a player the caliber of Hamilton you better damn be getting back an elite player. Lindholm and Hanifin are not elite... yet anyway.
- FLAM3SFAN

Sure. But thing is I wouldn't do it if I were the Canes either.

Hamilton is a great piece but what he brings to the table isn't anything the Canes necessarily need. He's great, but I wouldn't break the bank for him when we already have so much depth at defense.

Wasn't going to get into it but ok. Hamilton (who had character concerns from a team that after losing him is now a cup contender) for a 1st round pick that could have been Barzal. Plus two 2nds. If he is in fact (big IF) on the trade market it shows it was a mistake. How is the Hamomic trade going? 5th time's gotta be the charm in finding a goalie right? Troy Brower - nuff said. How many years with the talent he started with and they're still a lottery team? Yeah...I mocked Bergevin but Flames fans shouldn't toss stones in their glass built house
- Takemedrunkimhome

Oh jesus christ he just said the flames lost the hamilton trade i'm done

Love that zaitsev contract eh? What a bargain.
- FLAM3SFAN

we fired the guy that signed that one.

or is it the stone trade and overpay that makes trevling good?

Wasn't going to get into it but ok. Hamilton (who had character concerns from a team that after losing him is now a cup contender) for a 1st round pick that could have been Barzal. Plus two 2nds. If he is in fact (big IF) on the trade market it shows it was a mistake. How is the Hamomic trade going? 5th time's gotta be the charm in finding a goalie right? Troy Brower - nuff said. How many years with the talent he started with and they're still a lottery team? Yeah...I mocked Bergevin but Flames fans shouldn't toss stones in their glass built house
- Takemedrunkimhome

'Holy poop Johnny Hockey is already 25 years old???

Sure. But thing is I wouldn't do it if I were the Canes either.

Hamilton is a great piece but what he brings to the table isn't anything the Canes necessarily need. He's great, but I wouldn't break the bank for him when we already have so much depth at defense.
- BINGO!

I think essentially what we're getting at here is the trade wouldn't make sense for either team and therefore should not happen

Oh jesus christ he just said the flames lost the hamilton trade i'm done
- FLAM3SFAN

I can see the reason people question your reading comprehension. I said IF he is on the market it shows it was a mistake and yeah...Hamilton wouldn't get you Barzal straight up in a trade, so there's that. I also note you ignored all the other points against Brad T...because they are pretty darn tough to defend.

Your reading comprehension needs some work.

I wasn't suggesting Lindholm and TVR for Hamilton.

There's bound to be another piece there. Probably like Jake Bean or Julien Gauthier or something.

But either way I don't think it's a good fit.
- BINGO!

Oh I see. I was supposed to assume you were adding a couple more crappy unproven pieces for a top pairing D. My bad.

Why is Svechnikov worth Dougie alone? What’s his NHL point totals exactly? Right, he doesn’t have any. He’s a hope and a dream.
And I know exactly what Lindholm and Hanifin are. A middle 6 fwd who had 40ish points and a young unproven D with lots of potential. That’s it. Do you not know who Dougie Hamilton is?
- TandA4Flames

A solid #2 defenseman with good underlying numbers that can put up around 50 points in a year, yeah.

You think that the consensus 2nd overall pick (who likely would have been 1st overall in most other years) holds little value because he hasn't played in the NHL yet?

k.

It wouldn't be a horrible trade for either team but if I were the flames I wouldn't do it because it doesn't address their #1 issue which is a first line RW.
- FLAM3SFAN

How is that the Flames number one issue? The Flames top line was great and carried the team last year. Ferland was great on the line and has gotten better every year he's been in the league. They only fell off when Monahan and Ferland were trying to play through injuries. The Flames biggest need is scoring from the other 3 lines.

I think essentially what we're getting at here is the trade wouldn't make sense for either team and therefore should not happen
- FLAM3SFAN

It probably doesn't make sense, no.

But WOW do some of you overvalue Dougie Hamilton. He's a real good defenseman, yeah. But y'all are acting like he's the cornerstone of your franchise or something.

Your reading comprehension needs some work.

I wasn't suggesting Lindholm and TVR for Hamilton.

There's bound to be another piece there. Probably like Jake Bean or Julien Gauthier or something.

But either way I don't think it's a good fit.
- BINGO!

Think Jake Bean will ever be a full-time NHL player?

I can see the reason people question your reading comprehension. I said IF he is on the market it shows it was a mistake and yeah...Hamilton wouldn't get you Barzal straight up in a trade, so there's that. I also note you ignored all the other points against Brad T...because they are pretty darn tough to defend.
- Takemedrunkimhome

hamilton was trevling's best and only good trade. we'll see what comes of it.

after that, i see a lot of meh/questionable moves, particularly promoting don maloney internally.

I think essentially what we're getting at here is the trade wouldn't make sense for either team and therefore should not happen
- FLAM3SFAN

If the trade is Hanifin and Lindholm for Hamilton and maybe some other inconsequential pieces on either side, that's a great deal for the Flames if they can lock them both up to reasonable lengthy contracts.

When you have both sides arguing that their GM would be stupid to make that deal, you've probably got a pretty fair trade proposed.

A solid #2 defenseman with good underlying numbers that can put up around 50 points in a year, yeah.

You think that the consensus 2nd overall pick (who likely would have been 1st overall in most other years) holds little value because he hasn't played in the NHL yet?

k.
- BINGO!

Tell me how Yakopov, a former 1st overall is doing? A prospect is just a prayer until he starts to show in the big league he was worth the hype. People really over value draft picks.

hamilton was trevling's best and only good trade. we'll see what comes of it.

after that, i see a lot of meh/questionable moves, particularly promoting don maloney internally.
- Tumbleweed

That was Burke.

That was Burke.
- TandA4Flames

well, you're left with the dynamic duo of trevling and maloney that ran the yotes into the ground.

not sure this is going to end well.

Think Jake Bean will ever be a full-time NHL player?
- RonPielep

Probably. I don't think he's the offensive juggernaut guys thought he would be, but his defensive game grew a ton over the last two seasons.

Tell me how Yakopov, a former 1st overall is doing? A prospect is just a prayer until he starts to show in the big league he was worth the hype. People really over value draft picks.
- TandA4Flames

So why didn't Treliving trade Hamilton right away after getting him to Edmonton for McJesus...since he was a prospect who had never played in the big leagues...Hamilton by your logic and standards was worth waaaay more, right? Right?

So why didn't Treliving trade Hamilton right away after getting him to Edmonton for McJesus...since he was a prospect who had never played in the big leagues...Hamilton by your logic and standards was worth waaaay more, right? Right?
- Takemedrunkimhome

Did you just compare Mcdavid, one of the best prospects in the history of the sport, to schvenikov?

It probably doesn't make sense, no.

But WOW do some of you overvalue Dougie Hamilton. He's a real good defenseman, yeah. But y'all are acting like he's the cornerstone of your franchise or something.
- BINGO!

Well other than gaudreau he is the cornerstone of the franchise... Giordano will begin regressing soon as he gets older which will leave hamilton as the teams best Dman and 2nd best player behind gaudreau.

Tell me how Yakopov, a former 1st overall is doing? A prospect is just a prayer until he starts to show in the big league he was worth the hype. People really over value draft picks.
- TandA4Flames

Tell me how McDavid, Matthews, Hall, Ekblad, MacKinnon, Tavares, Stamkos, Kane, Fleury, Ovechkin, Crosby, all former first overalls, are doing? Going back 15 years, and Yakupov is the only scrub. Pretty good odds that you're getting an elite player with that pick.

Did you just compare Mcdavid, one of the best prospects in the history of the sport, to schvenikov?


- FLAM3SFAN

No...I'm pointing out how asinine your comment of never played in the big leagues is...using a hyperbolic comment to cement the point of how silly your comment is

I can see why the Flames are looking to Carolina, Peters knows these players but I argee Calgary would need to get more for Hamilton than Lindholm. Carolina isn't moving their first round pick, so that leaves another roster player. If Hannafin and Lindholm come back for Hamilton and anther play, prospect or pick that would be okay but I think the ask by Carolina will be very high. I can't see Carolina wanting to make the Flames better with a coach who just quit their organization, to they would have to frame it to their fans that they won any trade with Calgary.