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Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
This is a top pairing, 25 year old defenseman who keeps improving and already has underlying numbers placing him in the top 15 defensemen in the league. He should be extremely expensive.
- fry

Well...be prepared to be massively disappointed
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Jun 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
Tell me why. Someone convince me why this isn’t a reasonable ask? Who are Lindholm, Hanifin and Svechnikov (likely) exactly that we shouldn’t expect this as a return for a 6’6” right shot D who’s under 25, gets better every year and let the league (tied) in goals from the D last year?
I acknowledge it’s a high ask but Convince me.

- TandA4Flames

Someone needs a hug. C’mon, bring it in bud, I got you. ❤️
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Someone needs a hug. C’mon, bring it in bud, I got you. ❤️
- FinnGod


Maybe he just bought a Hamilton jersey?
Emcee27
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 11:50 AM ET
Because Andrei Svechnikov alone is worth more than Dougie Hamilton.

Do you really not know who Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin are?

- BINGO!


What you be smokin, son?! Pass that dank chronic over. You be trippin dogg
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
This is a top pairing, 25 year old defenseman who keeps improving and already has underlying numbers placing him in the top 15 defensemen in the league. He should be extremely expensive.
- fry

Thank you!
Holy poop. Did we just agree on something ? 😆😆😆😆
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 21 @ 11:52 AM ET
Because Andrei Svechnikov alone is worth more than Dougie Hamilton.

Do you really not know who Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin are?

- BINGO!


^this in bold. ELC. Svetch would go #1 OA any year where there isn't a "generational player" (don't like the use of that phrase). He'll be in the lineup day one of the 2018-2019 season. I think there may be Flames fans massively undervaluing the #2 OA and Svetch
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
What you be smokin, son?! Pass that dank chronic over. You be trippin dogg
- Emcee27



In TSN Bob McKenzie's latest final draft ranking, one scout told him that “Svechnikov may be closer to [Rasmus] Dahlin for No. 1 than the rest of the field is to Svechnikov."
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
The second the flames trade hamilton, they'll be looking for a player just like hamilton. DO NOT TRADE HAMILTON.

IDC if its for lindholm and hanifin I still wouldn't do it. The only possible way the flames should even consider trading him is if they get a bonafide #1 RW back. Lindholm does not solve their most glaring need at all. He'd just be another guy in a crammed middle 6.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
^this in bold. ELC. Svetch would go #1 OA any year where there isn't a "generational player" (don't like the use of that phrase). He'll be in the lineup day one of the 2018-2019 season. I think there may be Flames fans massively undervaluing the #2 OA and Svetch
- Takemedrunkimhome

If Treiveling offered Waddel Hamilton for 2OA, I bet you he turns it down.
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
Well...be prepared to be massively disappointed
- Takemedrunkimhome


Why? its not like bergevin is our GM
Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 21 @ 11:56 AM ET
Maybe he just bought a Hamilton jersey?
- BINGO!



Hamilton for Lindholm, Hanifin and Zykov

Squilliam-
Calgary Flames
Location: Diagon Alley
Joined: 10.25.2016

Jun 21 @ 11:57 AM ET
In TSN Bob McKenzie's latest final draft ranking, one scout told him that “Svechnikov may be closer to
- BINGO![Rasmus] Dahlin for No. 1 than the rest of the field is to Svechnikov.
"



interesting.. please go on
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
If Treiveling offered Waddel Hamilton for 2OA, I bet you he turns it down.
- RickJames77

I completely agree. Don't actually think it's all that close either
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
Why? its not like bergevin is our GM
- FLAM3SFAN

Yeah Treliving has sure been a Godsend for the Flames right?
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
He shouldn't, no.

I imagine it would have to be a package of some variety. Certainly with Calgary at least taking back a defenseman.

- BINGO!

Like Van Riemsdyk right. Go away.

He cost a mid 1st and 2 2nds 3 years ago when he was unproven and not with #s close to what he’s put up since. What’s his worth now, Bingo? A middle 6 fwd and a bottom pair D. You’re ridiculous.
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
Because Andrei Svechnikov alone is worth more than Dougie Hamilton.

Do you really not know who Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin are?

- BINGO!


While I agree that those 2 and 2OA is laughable, lindholm and hanifin for hamilton is not that great either. Lindholm is a middle 6 forward nothing special at all.

It wouldn't be a horrible trade for either team but if I were the flames I wouldn't do it because it doesn't address their #1 issue which is a first line RW. If you're trading a player the caliber of Hamilton you better damn be getting back an elite player. Lindholm and Hanifin are not elite... yet anyway.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:01 PM ET
Why? its not like bergevin is our GM
- FLAM3SFAN


how is he any better?
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Yeah Treliving has sure been a Godsend for the Flames right?
- Takemedrunkimhome


Well he brought in Dougie for a 1st and 2 2nds, while your GM traded a norris winning Dman and one of the best players in the league for shea weber.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Well...be prepared to be massively disappointed
- Takemedrunkimhome


Good point. Guess we’ll have to downgrade our highest value asset because we need a 45pt RW so bad.

The only reason people are discussing this is that TSN needs site traffic.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
If Treiveling offered Waddel Hamilton for 2OA, I bet you he turns it down.
- RickJames77


Waddell said he's had some offers, but nothing even close.

Said that they feel that Svechnikov will be an major impact player for them soon, so he won't settle for a "equal value" trade. Has to be one they clearly win. Says he'll have his ears open in case somebody wants to blow him away with an offer, but otherwise... nope.
FLAM3SFAN
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 03.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
how is he any better?
- Tumbleweed


If you seriously have to ask that than there's no point of trying to talk to you
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Like Van Riemsdyk right. Go away.

He cost a mid 1st and 2 2nds 3 years ago when he was unproven and not with #s close to what he’s put up since. What’s his worth now, Bingo? A middle 6 fwd and a bottom pair D. You’re ridiculous.

- TandA4Flames


Your reading comprehension needs some work.

I wasn't suggesting Lindholm and TVR for Hamilton.

There's bound to be another piece there. Probably like Jake Bean or Julien Gauthier or something.

But either way I don't think it's a good fit.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Trying to discuss a Hamilton trade on here is a waste of time. There isn't a player in the league more overrated by their own fans than Hamilton. Yes, he's a great defenceman, but he's not Bobby Orr, and he has major things he needs to improve before he's a perennial Norris finalist so many people here want to label him as.

He's not even the best defenceman on the team.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
If you seriously have to ask that than there's no point of trying to talk to you
- FLAM3SFAN


trading for hamonic and overpaying brower must be what you're thinking of.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jun 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Because Andrei Svechnikov alone is worth more than Dougie Hamilton.

Do you really not know who Elias Lindholm and Noah Hanifin are?

- BINGO!

Why is Svechnikov worth Dougie alone? What’s his NHL point totals exactly? Right, he doesn’t have any. He’s a hope and a dream.
And I know exactly what Lindholm and Hanifin are. A middle 6 fwd who had 40ish points and a young unproven D with lots of potential. That’s it. Do you not know who Dougie Hamilton is?
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