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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 1:23 AM ET
My body is ready.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 2:27 AM ET
My body is ready.
- Mononoke


Not a creature was stirring.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:28 AM ET
My body is ready.
- Mononoke


I can't watch, it gets too stressful.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 22 @ 4:09 AM ET
My body is ready.
- Mononoke

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 6:05 AM ET
Did we trade stuff for other stuff yet?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:53 AM ET
Youve obviously never been to the hood! They are common names In that community
- Myfreedomisback


Yes, I'm sure Ersan is the top name is South Central LA.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 7:55 AM ET
Yes, I'm sure Ersan is the top name is South Central LA.
- jmatchett383

I'm just glad the Sixers didn't draft the kid named Anfernee. I can't even.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 7:55 AM ET
I'm just glad the Sixers didn't draft the kid named Anfernee. I can't even.
- hereticpride


Penny for your thoughts?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:07 AM ET
Penny for your thoughts?
- jmatchett383


Here's a nickels worth....


Holtby:
Stanley Cup Champ
Value rose like morning glory
2 years
6M or so cap hit



He would hit the right time frame for the Flyers, but expensive....discuss.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:10 AM ET
Here's a nickels worth....


Holtby:
Stanley Cup Champ
Value rose like morning glory
2 years
6M or so cap hit



He would hit the right time frame for the Flyers, but expensive....discuss.

- Glak18


Right player but the likely cost to obtain him is prohibitive.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:16 AM ET
Here's a nickels worth....


Holtby:
Stanley Cup Champ
Value rose like morning glory
2 years
6M or so cap hit



He would hit the right time frame for the Flyers, but expensive....discuss.

- Glak18


Talk starts with Sanheim and #14. Starts.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:19 AM ET
Here's a nickels worth....


Holtby:
Stanley Cup Champ
Value rose like morning glory
2 years
6M or so cap hit



He would hit the right time frame for the Flyers, but expensive....discuss.

- Glak18


I think I would just start the season with Elliott/Glassgoalie and see how things shake out. I have my eye on Minnesota as a 17-18 playoff team that I could see moving down in the standings. Perhaps you wait to mid season and then try to swing a deal for Dubnyk? If not, there will likely be other deals to be made for a goalie if needed as the deadline approaches, or maybe we all get pleasantly surprised and the current duo holds their own.

I'm not going to overpay on a deal now for a goalie, no need to rush into anything.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:20 AM ET
Right player but the likely cost to obtain him is prohibitive.
- MJL


Agreed.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:20 AM ET
Talk starts with Sanheim and #14. Starts.
- jmatchett383


I don't wanna know where this ends. Ends.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:27 AM ET
My body is ready.
- Mononoke


As is my liver.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:27 AM ET
I think I would just start the season with Elliott/Glassgoalie and see how things shake out. I have my eye on Minnesota as a 17-18 playoff team that I could see moving down in the standings. Perhaps you wait to mid season and then try to swing a deal for Dubnyk? If not, there will likely be other deals to be made for a goalie if needed as the deadline approaches, or maybe we all get pleasantly surprised and the current duo holds their own.

I'm not going to overpay on a deal now for a goalie, no need to rush into anything.

- BiggE


Goalie situation is starting to get a bit scary now. The depth looks really good with Stolarz, Lyons, Hart and Sandstrom at the top of the list, but after this year the Flyers have no experienced goaltender...zero. Which can be a little good with a little bad.

Not sure how I would rank Hart compared to guys like MA Fleury and Price, but those 2 guys struggled for their first couple years in the NHL, which I expect to happen with Hart once he makes it. So that leaves a 3-4 year window for need.

Tricky situation...wait and sign someone or pay some kind of price for someone now or later.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:29 AM ET
The only pop performer who ever came close to rivaling Michael Jackson on stage was Janet ca. 92-93.

Sorry, had to be said. Resume.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:31 AM ET
Goalie situation is starting to get a bit scary now. The depth looks really good with Stolarz, Lyons, Hart and Sandstrom at the top of the list, but after this year the Flyers have no experienced goaltender...zero. Which can be a little good with a little bad.

Not sure how I would rank Hart compared to guys like MA Fleury and Price, but those 2 guys struggled for their first couple years in the NHL, which I expect to happen with Hart once he makes it. So that leaves a 3-4 year window for need.

Tricky situation...wait and sign someone or pay some kind of price for someone now or later.

- Glak18


I'm hoping Lyon (no "s") can get into a good amount of games. In fact, I think the Flyers should be looking to move one of Elliott/Neuvirth, otherwise that leaves 2/3 of Lyon/Hart/Stolarz playing less than 1/2 of the AHL games this year.

Make Lyon the backup, let Lyon be your AHL starter and let Stolarz try to regain his form, and evaluate at the TDL.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:34 AM ET
Goalie situation is starting to get a bit scary now. The depth looks really good with Stolarz, Lyons, Hart and Sandstrom at the top of the list, but after this year the Flyers have no experienced goaltender...zero. Which can be a little good with a little bad.

Not sure how I would rank Hart compared to guys like MA Fleury and Price, but those 2 guys struggled for their first couple years in the NHL, which I expect to happen with Hart once he makes it. So that leaves a 3-4 year window for need.

Tricky situation...wait and sign someone or pay some kind of price for someone now or later.

- Glak18


I'm not that worried right now for 19-20, it's a long way off and these things have a way of working themselves out.

Here's a couple of things that could happen

Hart could have a monster season at LHV this year and look like he's ready to be an NHL starter. In that case, they could just re-sign Elliott to be the 1B/backup and vet mentor and go with that tandem.

Another possibility is the earlier scenario I proposed in which the Flyers make a deal for Dubnyk (or a similar deal) during the season. Using Dubnyk as an example, he will have 2 years left at 4.5 million per, following the upcoming season. In that scenario, you either work in Hart as Dubnyk's backup in 19-20 or, if you'd rather Hart gets 50+ starts at LHV, you keep Lyon as the backup.

Either way, I'm not that concerned. Worrying about future cap implications makes much more sense to me than worrying about which players will fill which roles 2 seasons from now. The latter has a way of usually working itself out.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 8:34 AM ET
I'm hoping Lyon (no "s") can get into a good amount of games. In fact, I think the Flyers should be looking to move one of Elliott/Neuvirth, otherwise that leaves 2/3 of Lyon/Hart/Stolarz playing less than 1/2 of the AHL games this year.

Make Lyon the backup, let Lyons be your AHL starter
and let Stolarz try to regain his form, and evaluate at the TDL.

- jmatchett383

ftfy
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 22 @ 8:36 AM ET
ftfy
- YuenglingJagr

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:38 AM ET
I'm hoping Lyon (no "s") can get into a good amount of games. In fact, I think the Flyers should be looking to move one of Elliott/Neuvirth, otherwise that leaves 2/3 of Lyon/Hart/Stolarz playing less than 1/2 of the AHL games this year.

Make Lyon the backup, let Lyon be your AHL starter and let Stolarz try to regain his form, and evaluate at the TDL.

- jmatchett383


That is what makes it scary, with an "s", so many question marks.

Lyon looked like he could become a decent backup, Stollie now needs to bounce back from the injury (who knows how that works out), Hart needs work on his A game and Sandy is getting his Swede on a bit longer (come back from injury as well).

Elliott is exactly what the Flyers needed...until that stupid injury. How does he recover and would he be able to do it for an added year or two. LOTS of questions TBD.

Team doesn't want to jump the gun and toss assets away, but being too cautious could have devastating effects on growth. It's the mighty pickle.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 8:39 AM ET
ftfy
- YuenglingJagr


whoops
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 22 @ 8:40 AM ET
I'm not that worried right now for 19-20, it's a long way off and these things have a way of working themselves out.

Here's a couple of things that could happen

Hart could have a monster season at LHV this year and look like he's ready to be an NHL starter. In that case, they could just re-sign Elliott to be the 1B/backup and vet mentor and go with that tandem.

Another possibility is the earlier scenario I proposed in which the Flyers make a deal for Dubnyk (or a similar deal) during the season. Using Dubnyk as an example, he will have 2 years left at 4.5 million per, following the upcoming season. In that scenario, you either work in Hart as Dubnyk's backup in 19-20 or, if you'd rather Hart gets 50+ starts at LHV, you keep Lyon as the backup.

Either way, I'm not that concerned. Worrying about future cap implications makes much more sense to me than worrying about which players will fill which roles 2 seasons from now. The latter has a way of usually working itself out.

- BiggE


I agree it's not dooms day, but I am a little concerned more than you. I also have control issues...so.
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