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Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:06 PM ET
Is this an off-season where Hextall needs to add substantial talent? Or is that another year or two away?

Provy, Ghost, and TK are legitimate, good NHL players. “Lindbum” (smh), Hagg, and Sanheim had their ups and downs, but showed a lot of reasons to be excited about them.

The established players had dominate years minus a hurt Wayne Simmonds.

Do you trade some of the youth for a Trouba or Hamilton? Do you go all in on a Carlson or Tavares (if he leaves)?

I think it’s time to supplement with real talent. I just don’t know who that is or where it comes from this year.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 21 @ 4:06 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr

I heard he was type casted to the new Flintstone movie to.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
Oh okay.... your team hasn't won a playoff series in 7 years and we haven't in 10 years.

You are the epitome of awesome. Congratulations on all of the success.

- JVince11

We are the epitome of awesome thanks for recognizing.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
I just read a tweet from John Shannon (via Friedman) that Chiarelli would move the 10th pick for quality defensive help.
- Sinisalo4vr


Edmonton is so selfish, it's always about what they want. Ugh.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
AMac is a quality top 4 Dman. Or so we’ve been told repeatedly.
- BiggE

MJL is in his basement getting the report ready to email
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
AMac is a quality top 4 Dman. Or so we’ve been told repeatedly.
- BiggE

Chia is dumb enough to bite into that turd.

10th overall for AMac. Could you imagine?
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
Is this an off-season where Hextall needs to add substantial talent? Or is that another year or two away?

Provy, Ghost, and TK are legitimate, good NHL players. “Lindbum” (smh), Hagg, and Sanheim had their ups and downs, but showed a lot of reasons to be excited about them.

The established players had dominate years minus a hurt Wayne Simmonds.

Do you trade some of the youth for a Trouba or Hamilton? Do you go all in on a Carlson or Tavares (if he leaves)?

I think it’s time to supplement with real talent. I just don’t know who that is or where it comes from this year.

- Flyers1218

When did the rebuild start? This team is always one or two years away from being another one or two years away
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
When did the rebuild start? This team is always one or two years away from being another one or two years away
- Landsbergfan

When King Richards was traded
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
When did the rebuild start? This team is always one or two years away from being another one or two years away
- Landsbergfan

No lie. They've been building around the same core for like 6 years now with one playoff series win. Ugh.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
No lie. They've been building around the same core for like 6 years now with one playoff series win. Ugh.
- hereticpride

The Giroux Administration for you
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
No lie. They've been building around the same core for like 6 years now with one playoff series win. Ugh.
- hereticpride

Secretly, Hextall has known since he assumed command that this core would be on walkers before the team sees another SFC
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
When did the rebuild start? This team is always one or two years away from being another one or two years away
- Landsbergfan


With reasonable expectations, this is the year the Flyers make the playoffs (not bubble, hope they do or maybe...maybe not). Expect to be solid 1st round matchup and a not surprise 2nd round appearance. Then the next 2 years should be..."this team could be a contender (where Winnipeg is now).


The problem is, defense still has more maturing to do to see who and how many pan out. Developing in juniors and the AHL is one thing, but there's still cooking to do 2-3 years in the NHL. Then you have goaltending. Stop gaps right now, but Hart or Sandstrom are still years away once they make the NHL. There is a chance Hart could become a miracle and be a stud his rookie year in a year or two.

So if you use teams that have drafted good and won cup...2 years.

If you use Washington as a timeline, drafting and being dominant in the regular season for years...5 years.

A Toronto, Edmonton, Buffalo time frame....a decade.


Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Jun 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
No lie. They've been building around the same core for like 6 years now with one playoff series win. Ugh.
- hereticpride



Really Hexy has been building up a new core of spects while trying to stay competitive with this core for a while. If they really believed in this core you wouldn't have seen Schenn for picks and Jorald.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 21 @ 4:48 PM ET
Really Hexy has been building up a new core of spects while trying to stay competitive with this core for a while. If they really believed in this core you wouldn't have seen Schenn for picks and Jorald.
- Lip_Out

I think Hextall is great at the draft. I'm not sure how competitive he's made us in the years he's been here. Weise, bad signing. Weal, cheap signing. I'm sorry but the Umberger for Hartnell still stands as a bad trade. Hartnell may no longer be a 30 goal guy but he's still scoring 10 goals with Nashville in the NHL, while Umberger struggled to score one goal a season two years ago and is now...who knows where??

We have a lot of garbage on this team.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 21 @ 5:01 PM ET
And how did Hartnell end up in Nashville?

Because CBJ bought him out a year ago since he was untradeable. And that was after protecting hm in the ED and exposing William Karlsson who went and scored 70 points for Vegas.
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
And how did Hartnell end up in Nashville?

Because CBJ bought him out a year ago since he was untradeable. And that was after protecting hm in the ED and exposing William Karlsson who went and scored 70 points for Vegas.

- Feanor


I would have to look back, but I don't think Columbus had a choice protecting Hartnell. Keep in mind too, no way Karlsson nets 40 goals on Columbus last year. The chance he got with increased ice time and role would not of been there if he stayed. That plays a big part in production.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish

Google has no news on this
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:15 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish

Wat
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:17 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish


Wait...what? I didn't hear that yet. JFC as well. These are the moves that cause you to go backwards. The Flyers signing players because they are "known commodities" have killed them in the past.
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish
Nowhere to be found except for an article from 2016.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:20 PM ET
Nowhere to be found except for an article from 2016.
- Sinisalo4vr


I see nothing either.

You got me, I fell for it.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish


Fake news? Hopefully?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
Fake news? Hopefully?
- StepfordSam

They already confirmed he's not coming back.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
I know I'm late to the party with this but I just saw they resigned Manning. JFC!!!

Maybe it's only to have someone to expose in the next expansion draft, but I don't think I can take another year with him getting more minutes than Sanheim. FFS!

- WhirlingDervish


Ek or Mike made a brief mention of this on the buzzcast today but I could't fully focus while also being on a work call
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