Bouchard is overrated.
- Steven_Seagull

he might turn out to be pretty good. but he's no sure thing.

i'd put hughes before him.

It's amazing how you think you know so much, thrusting your opinion out like fact.


He lost a year of playing, that undoubtedly hurt him. Recency bias. Happens a lot. Guys that play in u18 tourney and do well suddenly shoot up the rating. Guys that aren't seen as much late in the season usually slide down the ratings.

Lilegren Played the whole year in the ahl which is rare and did very well. His numbers are very comparable to hampus lindholm, if he turns out like that were golden
- burn

And it's amazing how if he's a Leafs prospect, he's automatically amazing.

He lost a year? Like (frank) he did. He played 12 games for the J20 Rogle BK team, 19 games for the Rogle BK SHL team and 5 games for Timra for a total of 36 games. Plus 4 playoff games. Another 24 games with Sweden for a grand total of 64 games. Hardly missed a year.

He played 44 games and had 1 goal and 17 points. Not terrible but not amazing either. I don't think he's a poop prospect or anything but Bouchard is clearly a better prospect with a bigger body, RHD, more offensive talent and surprisingly NHL ready given his strength and skills. The Leafs could clearly be getting an upgrade.

The Leafs could also replace Liljegren with a prospect of equal or greater value in exchange for Gardiner who may get moved with only 1 year left on his deal. Just like the Leafs could try to move Gardiner to move up and keep Liljegren. I've got no problem with keeping Liljegren but if he's the price you pay to get a legit top prospect RHD like Bouchard, it's a fair price worth paying.

Bouchard is another can’t miss future HOFer, like Robbie Earl.
- Steven_Seagull

He's a righty, we are short those. Big organizational need.


















So is liligren, but whatever

he might turn out to be pretty good. but he's no sure thing.

i'd put hughes before him.
- Tumbleweed

If the Leafs can get a high enough pick, they can decide between the couple top prospects whether it'd be Hughes or Bouchard or Boqvist or whomever else. But it'd be worth doing if another team is willing to trade down. I'd go with the RHD, London Knight trained Bouchard though. Good frame, great NHL level shot and comes from a great hockey development system that constantly pumps out great prospects who become good players.

He's a righty, we are short those. Big organizational need.


















So is liligren, but whatever
- burn

I would’ve agreed with you, but I forgot the Leafs are only allowed 1 good RHD prospect in their system at a time.

And it's amazing how if he's a Leafs prospect, he's automatically amazing.

He lost a year? Like (frank) he did. He played 12 games for the J20 Rogle BK team, 19 games for the Rogle BK SHL team and 5 games for Timra for a total of 36 games. Hardly missed a year.

He played 44 games and had 1 goal and 17 points. Not terrible but not amazing either. I don't think he's a poop prospect or anything but Bouchard is clearly a better prospect with a bigger body, RHD, more offensive talent and surprisingly NHL ready given his strength and skills. The Leafs could clearly be getting an upgrade.

The Leafs could also replace Liljegren with a prospect of equal or greater value in exchange for Gardiner who may get moved with only 1 year left on his deal. Just like the Leafs could try to move Gardiner to move up and keep Liljegren. I've got no problem with keeping Liljegren but if he's the price you pay to get a legit top prospect RHD like Bouchard, it's a fair price worth paying.
- Unholy_Goalie

So weak, yet so expected....


He had mono and bounced around a couple leagues and teams,but sure he had a normal year

Good video! But can also sell him on the amount of endorsements the local boy will make playing in Toronto than he would playing anywhere else.

But here's what I do:

82 Million projected cap for 2018/19

Offer JT 1yr max deal promising him another 8yr contract following the max deal.
So it would look like this:

1. 2018- 1yr 16 million 28yrs
1. 2019- 12 million 29yrs
2. 2020- 12 million 30yrs
3. 2021- 12 million 31yrs
4. 2022- 12 million 32yrs
5. 2023- 12 million 33yrs
6. 2024- 12 million 32yrs
7. 2025- 12 million 33yrs
8. 2026- 12 million 34yrs

Total 112 Million over 9yrs with an avg 12.4M+++++endorsements

I then sign Nylander to bridge deal 4M x 3yrs

Bridge Marner the following year 5.5M x 2yrs

Knowing after 3yrs your going to have to pay the best one top dollar making other dispensable as a trade chip

Give Matthews long term contract the following year 11.5M x 8yrs

knowing you have Gardiner (4.5M) Hainsey (3M) coming off the books next yr

I trade Martin or buy him out since he clearly is not a Babcock player

My team 2018-2019 team looks like this:

FORWARDS

Johnsson (1.6M) Matthews (0.925M) Marner (0.900M) FIRST LINE

Marleau (6.2M) Tavares (16M) Nylander (4M) FIRST LINE

Hyman (2.25M) Kadri (4.5M) Brown (2.1M) SHUT DOWN LINE

Grundstom (0.925M) Aaltoen (1.2M) Kapanen (0.87M) 4th LINE

Spare: Levio (0.925M)


DEFENCE

Rielly (5M) Hainsey (3M)

Gardiner (4.5M) Zaitsev (4.5M)

Dermot (0.87) Ozhiganov (1.5M)

Carrick (1.3M)


GOALIES


Anderson (5M) McElinney (0.85M)


BUYOUTS

Kessell (1.2M)
Martin (1M)

GRAND TOTAL $71.2 Million Leaving 10M in cap space to load up at deadline with a top 4 D

2018-19 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.....YOUR TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS!!





- paulmofo

No way Tavares takes a one year deal, WAY too risky

So weak, yet so expected....


He had mono and bounced around a couple leagues and teams,but sure he had a normal year
- burn

You said he lost a year...but some how played 64 games total. Imagine if he didn't get mono. Probably would have played 128 games.

Ottawa announced today that they are retaining this years first round pick (4th overall) and will give up next years unprotected first rounder to colorado which by the looks of it will be a lottery pick as well and possibly losing out on Jack Hughes

Ottawa announced today that they are retaining this years first round pick (4th overall) and will give up next years unprotected first rounder to colorado which by the looks of it will be a lottery pick as well and possibly losing out on Jack Hughes
- paulmofo

I hope they finish 1 point out, but the pick wins the first lottery.

No way Tavares takes a one year deal, WAY too risky
- Symba007

Unless that that 1 year deal comes with a handshake agreement to sign an 8 year, 88 million dollar extension. 104 million dollars over 9 years ain't too bad.

But yeah, not happening.

No way Tavares takes a one year deal, WAY too risky
- Symba007

He could have signed last year a long term deal but chose to play the year out??? That wasnt risky?? Making 3x more than he made last year... just saying and turns it into a 9yrs deal instead of 8...food for thought. I think we have a great chance of landing him.

Unless that that 1 year deal comes with a handshake agreement to sign an 8 year, 88 million dollar extension. 104 million dollars over 9 years ain't too bad.

But yeah, not happening.
- Unholy_Goalie

He gets a serious injury and he just left 6-7yrs at over 10M on the table.....no way he is risking 70+M

He gets a serious injury and he just left 6-7yrs at over 10M on the table.....no way he is risking 70+M
- Symba007

I mean, Hossa did it but it certainly doesn't happen often. There aren't as many injuries now that will end a player's career as there use to be. Guys have their knees blown out and rebuilt in 6 months or less sometimes. But I agree, the odds of him doing that are slim to none.

You said he lost a year...but some how played 64 games total. Imagine if he didn't get mono. Probably would have played 128 games.
- Unholy_Goalie

So UG...

The Leaf need for a RHD is immediate, a prospect who may or may not develop into what they need isn't in the cards. They'll look to trade for that, we have plenty of pieces for that. If he's available when they pick they they might consider it, but they're not going out of their way to get him.

He gets a serious injury and he just left 6-7yrs at over 10M on the table.....no way he is risking 70+M
- Symba007

he just did this past off season? Snow offered him a blank cheque and JT slid in back

He gets a serious injury and he just left 6-7yrs at over 10M on the table.....no way he is risking 70+M
- Symba007

That's what insurance is for. It's a calculated risk, he is way ahead of the game if it works in his favour.

Bruins shouldn't waste their time.

The deal has already been worked out and agreed upon - Simmonds for Bracco. The league asked them to wait until draft night to announce it.

So, once again, it would be a waste of time for the Bruins to even pick up the phone.







I can smell a new blog coming

Leafs just signed Carrick - $1.300 (1 yr)

&

Pickard - $800K (1 yr)

Anyways

To: TOR - Dumba + Greenway

To: MIN - Bracco + Gardiner + Carrick + Leivo + 2018 2nd (SJ)











(Oh God, I hope this works).

Good video! But can also sell him on the amount of endorsements the local boy will make playing in Toronto than he would playing anywhere else.

But here's what I do:

82 Million projected cap for 2018/19

Offer JT 1yr max deal promising him another 8yr contract following the max deal.
So it would look like this:

1. 2018- 1yr 16 million 28yrs
1. 2019- 12 million 29yrs
2. 2020- 12 million 30yrs
3. 2021- 12 million 31yrs
4. 2022- 12 million 32yrs
5. 2023- 12 million 33yrs
6. 2024- 12 million 32yrs
7. 2025- 12 million 33yrs
8. 2026- 12 million 34yrs

Total 112 Million over 9yrs with an avg 12.4M+++++endorsements

I then sign Nylander to bridge deal 4M x 3yrs

Bridge Marner the following year 5.5M x 2yrs

Knowing after 3yrs your going to have to pay the best one top dollar making other dispensable as a trade chip

Give Matthews long term contract the following year 11.5M x 8yrs

knowing you have Gardiner (4.5M) Hainsey (3M) coming off the books next yr

I trade Martin or buy him out since he clearly is not a Babcock player

My team 2018-2019 team looks like this:

FORWARDS

Johnsson (1.6M) Matthews (0.925M) Marner (0.900M) FIRST LINE

Marleau (6.2M) Tavares (16M) Nylander (4M) FIRST LINE

Hyman (2.25M) Kadri (4.5M) Brown (2.1M) SHUT DOWN LINE

Grundstom (0.925M) Aaltoen (1.2M) Kapanen (0.87M) 4th LINE

Spare: Levio (0.925M)


DEFENCE

Rielly (5M) Hainsey (3M)

Gardiner (4.5M) Zaitsev (4.5M)

Dermot (0.87) Ozhiganov (1.5M)

Carrick (1.3M)


GOALIES


Anderson (5M) McElinney (0.85M)


BUYOUTS

Kessell (1.2M)
Martin (1M)

GRAND TOTAL $71.2 Million Leaving 10M in cap space to load up at deadline with a top 4 D

2018-19 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.....YOUR TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS!!





- paulmofo

Here's something I wondered. Could (and should) the Leafs offer Marner a 1 year deal at 2.5. Then immediately (or once the season starts) offer him 8 x 9 (this would've been agreed upon already, just a paper move),thus avoiding the Marleau crunch?

I mean, Hossa did it but it certainly doesn't happen often. There aren't as many injuries now that will end a player's career as there use to be. Guys have their knees blown out and rebuilt in 6 months or less sometimes. But I agree, the odds of him doing that are slim to none.
- Unholy_Goalie

a couple good points there on how rare career ending injuries are these days and hossa doing the one year deal...and then him ending up with the career ending jock itch

i don't recall, but must have been a reason hossa went short-term?

So UG...

The Leaf need for a RHD is immediate, a prospect who may or may not develop into what they need isn't in the cards. They'll look to trade for that, we have plenty of pieces for that. If he's available when they pick they they might consider it, but they're not going out of their way to get him.
- TrashPanda

Bouchard is better than Liljegren and whomever they'll draft at 25th. If you can move up to get a higher quality RHD prospect, you do it and you trade Gardiner to replace Liljegren or trade Gardiner to move up. Either way, moving up to get a legit top prospect RHD is worth paying the price.

And they should be going out of their way to get top RHD prospects. Not only do they need them badly but they're probably easier and cheaper to acquire now as a "top draft pick" than when they turn into the Pietrangelo's or the Hanifin's or the whomever's in the future. If you want John Carlson today, he costs 70-80 million dollars a year into his 30s. Or you get the 18 year old for a fraction of the dollar figure.

And it's amazing how if he's a Leafs prospect, he's automatically amazing.

He lost a year? Like (frank) he did. He played 12 games for the J20 Rogle BK team, 19 games for the Rogle BK SHL team and 5 games for Timra for a total of 36 games. Plus 4 playoff games. Another 24 games with Sweden for a grand total of 64 games. Hardly missed a year.

He played 44 games and had 1 goal and 17 points. Not terrible but not amazing either. I don't think he's a poop prospect or anything but Bouchard is clearly a better prospect with a bigger body, RHD, more offensive talent and surprisingly NHL ready given his strength and skills. The Leafs could clearly be getting an upgrade.

The Leafs could also replace Liljegren with a prospect of equal or greater value in exchange for Gardiner who may get moved with only 1 year left on his deal. Just like the Leafs could try to move Gardiner to move up and keep Liljegren. I've got no problem with keeping Liljegren but if he's the price you pay to get a legit top prospect RHD like Bouchard, it's a fair price worth paying.
- Unholy_Goalie

What makes Bouchard a better offensive player?

Why do you keep taking about Bouchard as a "legit rhd prospect", like lilegren isn't?

a couple good points there on how rare career ending injuries are these days and hossa doing the one year deal...and then him ending up with the career ending jock itch

i don't recall, but must have been a reason hossa went short-term?
- Tumbleweed

I think Hossa's retirement is half-bullpoop to get his full money but helping the team not eat the cap hit. He's basically "allergic" to his equipment and has to take medication to play in it but the medication is (frank)ing his body up. You'd think a millionaire could have equipment made from different material that he's not allergic too, right? I dunno, seems fishy to me.

Hossa wanted to win the Cup so he went to Pittsburgh, lost to Detroit, went to Detroit, lost again and then won with Chicago.

he just did this past off season? Snow offered him a blank cheque and JT slid in back
- paulmofo

Thats actually a good point.

How long do the leafs have to wait to sign him again? I think it’s Jan 1st or something. I know there is some kind of wait time.

I think Hossa's retirement is half-bullpoop to get his full money but helping the team not eat the cap hit. He's basically "allergic" to his equipment and has to take medication to play in it but the medication is (frank)ing his body up. You'd think a millionaire could have equipment made from different material that he's not allergic too, right? I dunno, seems fishy to me.

Hossa wanted to win the Cup so he went to Pittsburgh, lost to Detroit, went to Detroit, lost again and then won with Chicago.
- Unholy_Goalie

yeah...it's concussions and bullpoop injuries that are career enders nowadays.