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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 8:37 AM ET
Seriously, the 3rd overall for O'Reilly would be so dumb. The Sabres and Canadiens are in the same division, and you already have Dahlin.
- stinger67

how desperate is MB for a center....
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:38 AM ET
how desperate is MB for a center....
- Symba007


If that trade happens, Moulson is to blame, not Bergevin
Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 21 @ 8:40 AM ET
If that trade happens, Moulson is to blame, not Bergevin
- obie


I hate Matt Moulson too.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:42 AM ET
I hate Matt Moulson too.
- Good On Paper


I mean, Buffalo will thrown him in the deal at no extra charge.

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for Montreal.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
Not sure Buffalo would want Pacioretty, I think they would wanna offload O'Reilly for young assets and picks
- obie


i think Pacioretty would be a great fit in Buffalo. the Sabres were the lowest scoring team in the NHL last year and they have very few goal scoring threats on the wing. they've also got Eichel/Reinhart at C so they can afford to deal from that position of strength. won't happen obviously but it makes sense.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:43 AM ET
Not sure Buffalo would want Pacioretty, I think they would wanna offload O'Reilly for young assets and picks
- obie


This. Galchenyuk in a package made some sense, but now I don't know. Then again, Pacioretty would get Buffalo another good first round pick.

I juste hope we bite the bullet and stay away from ROR.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:45 AM ET
Would make sense.

Something like ROR for Pacioretty, De la Rose and 2x2nd

- BashCH


Don't know much about De La Rose, other than hes not the fastest guy but hes good at defense.

I'd rather Juulesen or Danault, but i doubt Montreal parts with either of them.
Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
Don't know much about De La Rose, other than hes not the fastest guy but hes good at defense.

I'd rather Juulesen or Danault, but i doubt Montreal parts with either of them.

- ImThatGuy


The next Lars Eller.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
This. Galchenyuk in a package made some sense, but now I don't know. Then again, Pacioretty would get Buffalo another good first round pick.

I juste hope we bite the bullet and stay away from ROR.

- deadpoulet


They would be looking at Mete, Poehling, Lekhonen, Scherbak, McNiven, Juulsen and the 35th and 38th picks... A combination centered around some of those players and picks... Not a good idea for Montreal
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:48 AM ET
i think Pacioretty would be a great fit in Buffalo. the Sabres were the lowest scoring team in the NHL last year and they have very few goal scoring threats on the wing. they've also got Eichel/Reinhart at C so they can afford to deal from that position of strength. won't happen obviously but it makes sense.
- DoubleDown


He would be a great fit. Though was last year a fluke or is he about to come crashing down like many other 30 year old players have done.

I wish he had another 2 years on his deal. I don't know how I feel about giving a 30YO a 5-6 year deal at 6MM+ a year.

The Sabres Also have Middlestadt at C. Reinhart will most likely play wing.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jun 21 @ 8:51 AM ET
Don't know much about De La Rose, other than hes not the fastest guy but hes good at defense.

I'd rather Juulesen or Danault, but i doubt Montreal parts with either of them.

- ImThatGuy

Speed is not the issue. He just has very low offensive instincts and skills. For the rest of the game he's pretty good. Pretty big guy as well. He's fit for a 3-4th C role.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:53 AM ET
They would be looking at Mete, Poehling, Lekhonen, Scherbak, McNiven, Juulsen and the 35th and 38th picks... A combination centered around some of those players and picks... Not a good idea for Montreal
- obie


No way they trade Poehling. They are weak prospect wise, but especially at center.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
He would be a great fit. Though was last year a fluke or is he about to come crashing down like many other 30 year old players have done.

I wish he had another 2 years on his deal. I don't know how I feel about giving a 30YO a 5-6 year deal at 6MM+ a year.

The Sabres Also have Middlestadt at C. Reinhart will most likely play wing.

- ImThatGuy


i would assume fluke. there's no reason for him not to still be a 35 goal threat. and he might even be more productive playing with real centers.

but his contract is a huge issue. it's not just that it's expiring, but that it's expiring at a terrible time because whoever signs him is going to be paying him big money through his declining years if he gets a 7 yr term.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
No way they trade Poehling. They are weak prospect wise, but especially at center.
- stinger67


And that's why they shouldn't be trying to patch things up by trading young players for a 2nd line C who's about to turn 28... Apparently St.Louis is in the mix for O'Reilly, for the Blues it makes a lot of sense, hopefully they offer Buffalo Thomas, Habs wouldn't be able to match that
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:55 AM ET
They would be looking at Mete, Poehling, Lekhonen, Scherbak, McNiven, Juulsen and the 35th and 38th picks... A combination centered around some of those players and picks... Not a good idea for Montreal
- obie


If Eller and Shaw get you 2 2 dn round picks then ROR should get you 2 2nd round picks and +++.

Scherbak was one of the guy I did mention in a trade. Don't know how much Buffalo would want him. Maybe in a package, but still.

Losing Mete or Juulsen would be a disaster. Most likely Poehling as well.

Even with ROR, is this a playoffs team? Mete is most likely a top 4 defenseman on this team....
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 21 @ 8:56 AM ET
The next Lars Eller.
- Good On Paper


if only.

he's Lars Eller Lite Lite
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 8:58 AM ET
If Eller and Shaw get you 2 2 dn round picks then ROR should get you 2 2nd round picks and +++.

Scherbak was one of the guy I did mention in a trade. Don't know how much Buffalo would want him. Maybe in a package, but still.

Losing Mete or Juulsen would be a disaster. Most likely Poehling as well.

Even with ROR, is this a playoffs team? Mete is most likely a top 4 defenseman on this team....

- deadpoulet


Couldn't agree more... There's better options out there that will cost less
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 21 @ 8:58 AM ET
Speed is not the issue. He just has very low offensive instincts and skills. For the rest of the game he's pretty good. Pretty big guy as well. He's fit for a 3-4th C role.
- BashCH


He could turn out to be a good goal scorer...




...if the NHL ever implement soccer nets.
Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:02 AM ET
And that's why they shouldn't be trying to patch things up by trading young players for a 2nd line C who's about to turn 28... Apparently St.Louis is in the mix for O'Reilly, for the Blues it makes a lot of sense, hopefully they offer Buffalo Thomas, Habs wouldn't be able to match that
- obie


So old.

No way St-Louis offers him for ROR.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 9:04 AM ET
So old.

No way St-Louis offers him for ROR.

- Good On Paper


No that old but this team isn't going anywhere anytime soon...
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:05 AM ET
Couldn't agree more... There's better options out there that will cost less
- obie


I still think trading Patches for the Isles pick (one of them) would be pretty good. I don't see Bergevin trading Price at this point. You probably can draft a good center or defenseman there.

Lots of teams (contenders) could use a scoring winger like Patches. If they can get a young center prospect back....

There is no quick turnaround for this team, so might as well tank for at least next season.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 9:06 AM ET
I still think trading Patches for the Isles pick (one of them) would be pretty good. I don't see Bergevin trading Price at this point. You probably can draft a good center or defenseman there.

Lots of teams (contenders) could use a scoring winger like Patches. If they can get a young center prospect back....

There is no quick turnaround for this team, so might as well tank for at least next season.

- deadpoulet

11th or 12th spot will get you a good prospect that is 2-3 years away from the NHL, bergevin is in NOW mode...his job is on the line.

He already traded Galchenyuk, if he trades Pacs it is for immediate help IMO
Good On Paper
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 04.13.2009

Jun 21 @ 9:06 AM ET
If Eller and Shaw get you 2 2 dn round picks then ROR should get you 2 2nd round picks and +++.

Scherbak was one of the guy I did mention in a trade. Don't know how much Buffalo would want him. Maybe in a package, but still.

Losing Mete or Juulsen would be a disaster. Most likely Poehling as well.

Even with ROR, is this a playoffs team? Mete is most likely a top 4 defenseman on this team....

- deadpoulet


Drouin ROR Zadina (assuming Pacioretty + picks are dealt)
Domi Danault Gally
Byron DLR Lehkonen
Hudon Shaw Deslauriers

Is this a playoffs team? I think it is. Exit in 1st round, though.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Jun 21 @ 9:07 AM ET
I still think trading Patches for the Isles pick (one of them) would be pretty good. I don't see Bergevin trading Price at this point. You probably can draft a good center or defenseman there.

Lots of teams (contenders) could use a scoring winger like Patches. If they can get a young center prospect back....

There is no quick turnaround for this team, so might as well tank for at least next season.

- deadpoulet

That would be nice. Draft Zadina/Tkachuk at 3 and Hayton at 11.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 21 @ 9:09 AM ET
11th or 12th spot will get you a good prospect that is 2-3 years away from the NHL, bergevin is in NOW mode...his job is on the line.

He already traded Galchenyuk, if he trades Pacs it is for immediate help IMO

- Symba007


My point is, it's not what he should be doing. Unless maybe they get a young asset that can step in right away, maybe.
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