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Athrin
Joined: 07.07.2016

Jun 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
i doubt dorion's ability to order a big mac meal at the drive thru, let alone his ability to negotiate a sign and trade.
- Tumbleweed


Cant argue with you and that
karlssens
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
i doubt dorion's ability to order a big mac meal at the drive thru, let alone his ability to negotiate a sign and trade.
- Tumbleweed

Yup, Dorion is absolutely proven to be useless. We need new ownership to come in and clean house.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 19 @ 4:48 PM ET
Yup, Dorion is absolutely proven to be useless. We need new ownership to come in and clean house.
- karlssens

Pretty much. Best way to force it as fans is to stop buying tickets and jerseys
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
Pretty much. Best way to force it as fans is to stop buying tickets and jerseys
- Nucker101


what do you think the nucks will have to give up for s.weber?
AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
JVR wouldn't sign in Ottawa. There's a pretty bad perception of Ottawa around the league I'd imagine.
- walshyleafsfan


Money talks I figure
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
what do you think the nucks will have to give up for s.weber?
- Tumbleweed


Juolevi + Virtanen + Tanev + 2nd for Weber + 4th
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 4:58 PM ET
Money talks I figure
- AlfieFever


melynk doesn't have much to say then
Tigersmyle
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Maple Ridge, BC
Joined: 03.17.2017

Jun 19 @ 5:02 PM ET
Didn't know you were about to turn into a little whiner when we don't respond positively to your offer which is not good enough. Karlsson for a Hoffman-esque offer No, I think if he is traded at the TDL we will more see a Shattenkirk type of deal. But I hope he re-signs or moves now.
- DutchSenators[/quote

Kudos for you guys keeping a stiff upper lip with all the crap going down. I know Enzos like a vulture here but what would you think about a Karlsson trade that got back the picks he stated plus Forsling and Seabrook (minus the 4th oa) ?Could then send this years 4th oa back to Colorado and run for broke in the Jack Hughes race , have 2 in the first round this year from Chicago and 2 next (Ottawa * Chicago). Eating Seabrooks contract would be nasty but there is a several years that cap space will not be an issue .Best player usually wins the trade( of course _but perhaps the rebuild can be sped up ? Cant see Chicago objecting to this as they dump Seabrook and get one last run in 2019 ? Any news on a possible new owner and relocation of the arena to a better location or is it still just same old-same-old ?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:04 PM ET
Hey guys is Hoffman now going to Be a 40 goal scorer?

You said he would be after getting a real 1C
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:05 PM ET
Juolevi + Virtanen + Tanev + 2nd for Weber + 4th
- Nucker101


not bad. i feel like it might hurt a little more for the nucks perspective...like having to give up the 7th instead of joulevi. also some retention on weber.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Jun 19 @ 5:08 PM ET
Hey guys is Hoffman now going to Be a 40 goal scorer?

You said he would be after getting a real 1C

- Santo_44


Him and Barkov are going to be pretty sick together.

I think Florida will improve a lot next year.

Leafs are better, but i think it'l be closer than you may like.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Jun 19 @ 5:14 PM ET
Yup, Dorion is absolutely proven to be useless. We need new ownership to come in and clean house.
- karlssens

It appears more evident every day that Brian Murray was the glue holding this altogether.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 19 @ 5:15 PM ET
not bad. i feel like it might hurt a little more for the nucks perspective...like having to give up the 7th instead of joulevi. also some retention on weber.
- Tumbleweed

Might try to get Price involved and add the 7th + Demko
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
Hahaha. My guess is he/she is sitting on the toilet, and struggling to breathe, as they type out their hateful messages. I can’t quite figure out if Coga is the best troll on hockeybuzz, or the worst person.

As for the trade, I feel like the Sens may have gotten a better return if PD had more time to make the deal, but overall it was a move that was necessary. I don’t agree with all of PD’s moves, but in this case the whole league knew Hoffman needed to be traded, and that the trade needed to happen ASAP. These two factors meant that Ottawa was going to get pummeled in the trade, no matter who they made the deal with. When Hoffman landed in SJ there wasn’t the same pressure to trade him, and this allowed them to get the assets they received for him. Even if the Sens could have gotten the same return as SJ did, there is a fairly high chance that none of the draft picks they received develops into a player that has any impact on their franchise.

The Sens should be in a better position to negotiate with Karlsson now that Hoffman is gone, and it should put them in a more favourable position to negotiate a trade if that happens.

- dhamon316

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:16 PM ET
Him and Barkov are going to be pretty sick together.

I think Florida will improve a lot next year.

Leafs are better, but i think it'l be closer than you may like.

- david22


depends on luongo. big if is if he can stay healthy.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:17 PM ET
Might try to get Price involved and add the 7th + Demko
- Nucker101


seems like bergy is up to something big.
karlssens
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 5:18 PM ET
seems like bergy is up to something big.
- Tumbleweed

Moving Price without holding salary would be a masterclass move.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jun 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Stone is a top 5 RW in the league and is 25, Know your players.
- Athrin
I love stone and without question think he's a top 3 forward moving forward....but top 5 right now?

My Top 5: Kucherov, P.Kane, Wheeler, Tarasenko, Laine
Next 5: Pastrnak, Voracek, Rantanen*, Kessel
I could squeeze Stone into the top 10, no doubt. Aho is there.
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:19 PM ET
Who is the gm out of San Jose????
Wasn't Boedker worth less than a 7th round pick?

In
Kane
2020 5th
2019 2nd
2018 4th
2018 5th

Out
Boedker
2020 6th
2018 7th
2019 1st



PD could never pull this off, sadly.
SwingersOfSultan
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:25 PM ET
Money talks I figure
- AlfieFever




Delete your account for (frank) sakes
You're as problematic for our culture as Eugene Melnyk.

Isn't it sad that you are compared to the dude who single handedly turned an NHL team into a circus?
Grow a pair and follow through on your word, like a real man.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:33 PM ET
Alfie! I like the backbone on this comment... had some fire too it lol. You just went from a 9 to a 10 in my books.

and I agree Hoffman was one of my favorite players. I hate seeing him go

- Maverick1818

"Stop calling me out to me to keep my word and follow through on a bet I made or I'll tell on you!"

So much back bone.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Jun 19 @ 5:34 PM ET
melynk doesn't have much to say then
- Tumbleweed

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:34 PM ET
Him and Barkov are going to be pretty sick together.

I think Florida will improve a lot next year.

Leafs are better, but i think it'l be closer than you may like.

- david22

Leafs, FLA, TB, Buffalo will all be better next season. Boston should be around the same or better depending on what they do.

There isn't much hope for the rest.
Panzer_IVA
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.02.2018

Jun 19 @ 5:40 PM ET
Ottawa is the worst team to be right now

No if ands or buts

The only people who would disagree with me are homer Sens fans

- Santo_44

I'm a homer Sens fan and I agree. Some guy in a previous thread said we should start a drinking game with people taking a swig every time the words 'tire fire', 'dumpster fire', 'hot mess' and the like were uttered. If that game took place, people would be dying of alcohol poisoning.

melynk doesn't have much to say then
- Tumbleweed


Indeed...
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Jun 19 @ 5:44 PM ET
I'm a homer Sens fan and I agree. Some guy in a previous thread said we should start a drinking game with people taking a swig every time the words 'tire fire', 'dumpster fire', 'hot mess' and the like were uttered. If that game took place, people would be dying of alcohol poisoning.



Indeed...

- Panzer_IVA


Yup, sucks to be a fan of them right now

It's mostly their owner trying to save every penny and just being plain dumb

But it gets worse with the Hoffman incident, any competent GM would of sent him out at the TDL when no one knew
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