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Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
What happened to my rationale for the trade? I only see Carolinas.
- matt1337


You don't need a rationale. You won!
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:34 PM ET
What happened to my rationale for the trade? I only see Carolinas.
- matt1337

Trade has been vetoed.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:35 PM ET
I think Sandin. Not saying the others aren't really good picks. I just think in the real draft Sandin is going to get picked higher than we expect.
- Pete V

Is this Todd Cordells alt?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 2:36 PM ET
Depends on how badly Carolina wants a player in that slot... Kapanen is pretty underrated as well.
- aries1976


Do people not think Kapanen can be a 15-20 goal scorer with the added minutes?

Sparks has some of the best AHL numbers of any goalie out there... He can be a solid back-up.

If Ryan Merkley gets his head straight, he can be a big time producer at the NHL level.

Hanifin is a big piece to be sure, but with Slavin, Pesce, Faulk, Fleury, TVR, Bean, McKeown, Carrick all in the system already...

I'm not sure it's that hard to replace a guy who, with almost 250 games under his belt, plays 19 minutes per night, has a consistently negative giveaway/takeaway ratio and isn't all that physical.

He's a nice piece, and he's going to be a good player, but he's not what we need right now.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 19 @ 2:36 PM ET
Is this Todd Cordells alt?
- Feds91Stammer


I thought Cordell was going to pick him with the Jersey pick.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
Bingo. That trade sucks.
- Feds91Stammer


You suck.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:40 PM ET
Do people not think Kapanen can be a 15-20 goal scorer with the added minutes?

Sparks has some of the best AHL numbers of any goalie out there... He can be a solid back-up.

If Ryan Merkley gets his head straight, he can be a big time producer at the NHL level.

Hanifin is a big piece to be sure, but with Slavin, Pesce, Faulk, Fleury, TVR, Bean, McKeown, Carrick all in the system already...

I'm not sure it's that hard to replace a guy who, with almost 250 games under his belt, plays 19 minutes per night, has a consistently negative giveaway/takeaway ratio and isn't all that physical.

He's a nice piece, and he's going to be a good player, but he's not what we need right now.

- BINGO!

Goalies have about 0 trade value, Kapanen is a 3rd line guy
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
Goalies have about 0 trade value, Kapanen is a 3rd line guy
- nyrangers9479


And Hanifin is a borderline top 4 defenseman right now.

Do you not see what the Canes have been rolling out lately?

This trade gives them

Zykov-Aho-Teravainen
Skinner-Staal-Svechnikov
Kapanen-Necas-Lindholm
McGinn-Rask-Williams

Slavin-Pesce
Fleury-Faulk
Bean/Carrick - van Reimsdyk

Darling
Sparks

If need be it's not too hard to find a LD who can play 15 minutes per night to fill that hole.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
You suck.
- BINGO!

Sorry bud.

I get the logic. Just based on perceived value you could do way better.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
I thought Cordell was going to pick him with the Jersey pick.
- Pete V

I actually drafted him on a PC game called Eastside Hockey Manager

#Nerd
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
And Hanifin is a borderline top 4 defenseman right now.

Do you not see what the Canes have been rolling out lately?

This trade gives them

Zykov-Aho-Teravainen
Skinner-Staal-Svechnikov
Kapanen-Necas-Lindholm
McGinn-Rask-Williams

Slavin-Pesce
Fleury-Faulk
Bean/Carrick - van Reimsdyk

Darling
Sparks

If need be it's not too hard to find a LD who can play 15 minutes per night to fill that hole.

- BINGO!


That's as opposed to:

Zykov-Aho-Teravainen
Skinner-Staal-Svechnikov
McGinn-Necas-Lindholm
Foegele-Rask-Williams

Slavin-Pesce
Fleury-Faulk
Hanifin-van Reimsdyk

Darling
????
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
Sorry bud.

I get the logic. Just based on perceived value you could do way better.

- Feds91Stammer


Perhaps. I'm just not sure that Hanifin's value is as high as some would suspect.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 19 @ 2:51 PM ET
What happened to my rationale for the trade? I only see Carolinas.
- matt1337

Please PM it again and I will add. Apologies of missed it.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Please PM it again and I will add. Apologies of missed it.
- airjan23


Not enough room for 3 Matt's on here. Just ignore it Jan
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Perhaps. I'm just not sure that Hanifin's value is as high as some would suspect.
- BINGO!

We’ll give u Namestnikov 1 for 1
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 2:56 PM ET
Also, we missed the rights to Derek Ryan. That was part of the deal.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
Perhaps. I'm just not sure that Hanifin's value is as high as some would suspect.
- BINGO!

His zone exits look good

https://public.tableau.com/profile/christopher.turtoro#!/vizhome/2-yearA3ZPlayerComps/ComparisonDashboard

So do his passing and shot creation numbers

https://public.tableau.com/profile/ryan.stimson#!/vizhome/PlayerPassing/ComparisonDashboard

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
We’ll give u Namestnikov 1 for 1
- nyrangers9479

I will give him Athanasiou and 2 of 30,33, and 36
matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON
Joined: 09.28.2010

Jun 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Please PM it again and I will add. Apologies of missed it.
- airjan23


Sent it again
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
Would you take on Bobby Ryan’s full contract to move from 9 to 4?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 19 @ 3:13 PM ET
[quote=nyrangers9479]

contract too beaucoup
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 19 @ 3:18 PM ET


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nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Jun 19 @ 3:18 PM ET
[quote=jimbro83]
Even if Zadina is there?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jun 19 @ 3:22 PM ET
[quote=nyrangers9479]

yeah, that contract is just crippling
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
[quote=nyrangers9479]

Too many people are too willing to take on albatross contracts. Before it's all said and done, the team will have $30 million worth of cap space to actually use after all of the buyouts and crap contracts we take on.
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