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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 19 @ 11:59 AM ET
WHAT?
- ImThatGuy

it's complicated

I don't have the heart to explain it right now
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Ristolainen for #10 from EDM

Pick 10 plus ROR for pick 3 and Jeff Petry

Sabres add

Petry
Zadina

For

Risto
ROR

- sbroads24


When Boston traded Hamilton to Calgary he had three seasons under his belt with 42 gp 5g 11a, 64 gp 7g 18a, 72 gp 10g 32a.
Boston got a 1st and two 2nds (15, 45, 52 OA)

Risto with arguably better numbers to start his career and the ability to play big minutes isn't worth more than just the #10 pick?

I would argue that just as many people here undervalue our players as they do overvalue them.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Sold.
- ImThatGuy

Holy S, can you imagine the panic attack our GM would have? The deals would have to be made from ECMC's ICU.

Just checked the Gallup Polls. Yup, 3ER still number one.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
Garth is preaching going for Duchene on Twitter.

Oh my

- Shadman306


washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
Why do we care how many goals William Nylander scores next year?

- gordong



Snipeshow will thrive with Dahlin on the team.

My sources says both of them are going to bunk up at Nelson’s house after management asked!

Nelson learned to speak Swedish on the drive home from the meeting.

gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
How did Ror become 3OA worthy?

Risto stays

Nylander pots 29 this season

- washedup20



I’d be overjoyed if he got 29 in Rochester this year.... seeing as he has a grand total of 18 in two years.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 19 @ 12:04 PM ET

- gerbe75pts


That'd probably be ROR in the locker room.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:05 PM ET
Holy S, can you imagine the panic attack our GM would have? The deals would have to be made from ECMC's ICU.

Just checked the Gallup Polls. Yup, 3ER still number one.

- Hatboro_Swords


Man you must be related to Tim Murray how can you defend him idk
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
I’d be overjoyed if he got 29 in Rochester this year.... seeing as he has a grand total of 18 in two years.
- gordong



SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
we are getting kessel for larsson and doughty for all star girgensons
- homiedclown

Kessel
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:07 PM ET
but these trade offers for what we can expect from RoR is more out of whack then leaf trade proposals over the last 6 or 7 years


very unrealistic


risto is worth way more then ror

- homiedclown


Not being a Richard but how is a dman how has brutal 5v5 scoring, is not loved by the analytics community better than a 60 point centreman who leads the league in faceoff %?
Id say ROR is worth more than Risto, interested to hear your thoughts on the opposite.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
I’d be overjoyed if he got 29 in Rochester this year.... seeing as he has a grand total of 18 in two years.
- gordong



He’s ready, he added 23 new pimples to his face to become Sabre worthy
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
You mean like when they drafted Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn at 13, 14, and 15 in 2015 and every analyst couldn't put together sentences because of how bad it was?? Then they followed it up in the 2nd round with Carlo, Forsbacka-Karlsson, and Lauzon?

They get one really good guy every so often like most teams. McAvoy, Pastrnak, and a Dougie weigh out the bad ones. I don't think Vaakanainen, Studnicka, Frederic, or Lindgren from the last 2 years first 2 rounds will be anything special either.

- JVince11


They drafted Superstars and people forgot about the crappy drafts
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
Kessel
- SABRES 89



They want depth? Who do we have that provides depth for them?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
I like Risto

I would love to keep him.

However if you have to give to get.

Petry did out score Risto last year.

But I would keep the younger guy here.

- Stripes77

Oh my
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
He’s ready, he added 23 new pimples to his face to become Sabre worthy
- washedup20


Back or chest or face
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
He’s ready, he added 23 new pimples to his face to become Sabre worthy
- washedup20


Back or chest or face
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
Not being a Richard but how is a dman how has brutal 5v5 scoring, is not loved by the analytics community better than a 60 point centreman who leads the league in faceoff %?
Id say ROR is worth more than Risto, interested to hear your thoughts on the opposite.

- Sabres1523



I would say in no particular order: position, contract and age.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
They want depth? Who do we have that provides depth for them?
- washedup20

They are looking for depth on D and at possibly Wing or C
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
When Boston traded Hamilton to Calgary he had three seasons under his belt with 42 gp 5g 11a, 64 gp 7g 18a, 72 gp 10g 32a.
Boston got a 1st and two 2nds (15, 45, 52 OA)

Risto with arguably better numbers to start his career and the ability to play big minutes isn't worth more than just the #10 pick?

I would argue that just as many people here undervalue our players as they do overvalue them.

- adambuffalo

Very arguable
adambuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: United States, NY
Joined: 01.30.2007

Jun 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
They drafted Superstars and people forgot about the crappy drafts
- gerbe75pts



Sorry, but I am pretty sure that no one will forget those 3 picks as being one of the worse things to happen ever in any draft.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
We don't have to trade Ristolainen. He can stay and be a top 4 D man for the remaining 4 years of his deal.

If a GM values him as a 1 or 2, JB should make the move.

Risto isn't a #1 and won't be our #1.

And I'd bet $$ Guhle is the better player by midseason.

It's the same scenario as ROR. Guys are waiting to take their minutes. Cash in now
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
3 more days til ROR isn't traded
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Not being a Richard but how is a dman how has brutal 5v5 scoring, is not loved by the analytics community better than a 60 point centreman who leads the league in faceoff %?
Id say ROR is worth more than Risto, interested to hear your thoughts on the opposite.

- Sabres1523

a worse d man , larsson, landed hall

ror wore out his welcome in 2 cities in his young career


risto has a better cap hit

more upside

and ror is more likely to go the mike richards way, where he breaks down once he hits 30


ror is not fast, went 25 games w/o a goal


and all in all, young d men have more upside in trades



look at what hamilton and harmonic yielded in trades



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