Not really. Could work out but very risky. They’re betting big on the on ice performance being more important than off ice issues. Could go either way at this point.
- Iggysbff

Yeah... I'm not sure what to make of this "cyberbullying" stuff. If it was Hoffman's wife, I'd think it's more controllable than if it was Hoffman himself, but yeah, who knows...

Buffalo has SJS 2019 or 2020 1st round pick which could be gold if this all falls apart.
- ImThatGuy

Yeah, but unless more teams in the West start making better moves, that Pacific division will allow more mediocre teams in, so I wouldn't get your hopes up just yet lol

They have 7 players signed after next season.

The entire core group is 30+

Vlassic and burns are soon to be some of the worst contracts in the NHL.

This upcoming season is San Jose's last shot.
- ImThatGuy

Couture - 28
Hertl - 24
Jones - 28
Kane - 26
Burns - 32
Pavelski- 33
Vlasic- 30


Looks to me like the majority of their core is 30 or under.

Couture - 28
Hertl - 24
Jones - 28
Kane - 26
Burns - 32
Pavelski- 33
Vlasic- 30


Looks to me like the majority of their core is 30 or under.
- wreckage

Burns is 33, not 32 and Pavelski is 33. Those are their two major players and when they start a major decline, their supporting cast will suffer. Hopefully for Sharks fans those guys will keep it going strong for another two or three years.

I guess. If I was Karlsson I would love the opportunity to hit the guy as much as legally possible.
- glove_was_stuck

I think Hoffman would be up to that "challenge"

Buffalo has SJS 2019 or 2020 1st round pick which could be gold if this all falls apart.
- ImThatGuy

I'm not sure it'll be a bomb, so much that they just fall out of the playoff picture and land in purgatory where you're just good enough to not draft high. There's been a noticeable regression every year since the cup final.

Whose ahead of them in the Pacific the next few years is the better question?

Vegas? Is there more than a one year wonder there?
Edmonton? They're probably the biggest wild card. Could win the conference or finish in the basement.
Calgary? Goaltending is the issue there.
Anaheim and LA are in the same boat as the sharks imo.
Jimmy Tan Tan said the Coyotes are poised to be near the best this year? Lol

I'm not sure it'll be a bomb, so much that they just fall out of the playoff picture and land in purgatory where you're just good enough to not draft high. There's been a noticeable regression every year since the cup final.

Whose ahead of them in the Pacific the next few years is the better question?

Vegas? Is there more than a one year wonder there?
Edmonton? They're probably the biggest wild card. Could win the conference or finish in the basement.
Calgary? Goaltending is the issue there.
Anaheim and LA are in the same boat as the sharks imo.
Jimmy Tan Tan said the Coyotes are poised to be near the best this year? Lol
- leafsfann

Yeah, I said something similar earlier. That Pacific division is a division of "should be's" right now and probably the most mediocre division in the NHL. That being said, the off-season has just begun and most of those teams are just a few solid trades away from changing things.

As of right now though? The Sharks should finish 1st or 2nd in the Pacific.

EDIT: I think Anaheim's time is over for a while. Time for a rebuild IMO.

Spoken like a true Sens fan. If this was the best he could do, he did not do his job well. Dorian failed BIG time

Buffalo has SJS 2019 or 2020 1st round pick which could be gold if this all falls apart.
- ImThatGuy

They arent going to be bad for a long while. Mediocre maybe, but dont count on those being good picks.

Burns is 33, not 32 and Pavelski is 33. Those are their two major players and when they start a major decline, their supporting cast will suffer. Hopefully for Sharks fans those guys will keep it going strong for another two or three years.
- Rinosaur

Hockey-reference.com... said 32 until I clicked his personal link. Either way...what about hertl, couture, kane, vlasic all 30 or under? They got some time and I'm sure some guys in the system.

Look at the games played vs point totals.....not just the point totals. The guy plays at about a 50 at pace almost every year.

Didn't say he was great, said he was decent.....and he is
- sensarmy_11

Yeah, he is barely OK and his stock isn't exactly on the rise. From a hockey standpoint the Sens lose the trade in a bigly way.

Not much more they could have done though. The market had to be pretty limited, so just take your medicine and move on.

Someone wants to give Bergevin a run for his moneybfor the GM of the year award!!!
- muffin_man

Chill after MB is fired PD will be the new GM of the habs. #HeSpeaksFrench

Couture - 28
Hertl - 24
Jones - 28
Kane - 26
Burns - 32
Pavelski- 33
Vlasic- 30


Looks to me like the majority of their core is 30 or under.
- wreckage

Evander Kane at 7MM is a problem.

Burns is about to be over the hill (That contract will be a boat anchor.)
Same for Vlasic.

Pavelski needs a new deal at 34 you gona pay him 6MM+ for several years?

Dorion could package Karlsson and stone together for a 7th rd pick and lucic and still not be as awful as bergevin
- sensarmy_11

Hockey-reference.com... said 32 until I clicked his personal link. Either way...what about hertl, couture, kane, vlasic all 30 or under? They got some time and I'm sure some guys in the system.
- wreckage

I'm not saying they don't have some really good players, but those guys are all supporting cast, not the leads. They'll probably still be a bubble team in a few years, but while Burns and Pavelski are only two guys, they are players in which this team is built around.

Once they start decline it's going to be profound.

They arent going to be bad for a long while. Mediocre maybe, but dont count on those being good picks.
- Archaic

I dont plan on it, but if Kane and Hoffman(Hoffmans GF) implode it could be woders for Buffalo.

I think SJ gives Buffalo the pick this year, which will be in the 20's

Chill after MB is fired PD will be the new GM of the habs. #HeSpeaksFrench
- Burkefection

Pierre Maguire will be the next GM of the Habs.

I dont plan on it, but if Kane and Hoffman(Hoffmans GF) implode it could be woders for Buffalo.

I think SJ gives Buffalo the pick this year, which will be in the 20's
- ImThatGuy

Should make for some good tabloid reading anyway.

You'd spend more time in airport security than in the air. There's that. I can't see either Anaheim or LA making the cap situation work for EKs next contact, though. The king's have Phaneuf though.
- leafsfann

Phanuef will most likely be a buyout candidate next year and Doughty will resign.

No need for Karlsson

I dont plan on it, but if Kane and Hoffman(Hoffmans GF) implode it could be woders for Buffalo.

I think SJ gives Buffalo the pick this year, which will be in the 20's
- ImThatGuy

That Kane deal...

Kane proved in the playoffs with his stupid suspension how he can cost that team. I'm not saying SJ would have won that series regardless, but when you lose a guy who's been one of your major goal-scorers it hurts.

I'm curious to see how the Kane deal affects the UFA market.

Phanuef will most likely be a buyout candidate next year and Doughty will resign.

No need for Karlsson
- KINGS67

Isn't Phaneufs contract pretty much buyout proof? I thought that was the Dave Noni's signature.

Lol, this article is hilarious...

http://ottawasun.com/spor...d-return-for-mike-hoffman

Stooge Garrioch opining about expected return for Hoffman: 1st Round Pick and a High end prospect... umm maybe not... Boedker and former 2nd rounder...

Ludicrous over-valuing by Garrioch? Or (yet another) underwhelming move by Dorion? I'll go with a bit of both... and the surprise of the century? Ottawa saves money on the deal. Classic Sens. Cutting cost is a staple in every deal, save Alex Burrows.

Let's take a look a some of those theoretical Sens line combos and unfounded optimism about ability to compete

Phanuef will most likely be a buyout candidate next year and Doughty will resign.

No need for Karlsson
- KINGS67

Weren't there rumors that the Kings wanted to move Doughty for whatever reason? I could be way off base, but I feel like I heard/read something that either because of wanting a fresh start or salary reasons they were considering a major trade.

Eklund: Hoffman on his way to San Jose, Boedker sent to Sens; Buzzcast at 10:15
- Eklund

Boedker , Gaborik, Ryan ........talk about the has beens

meh.... Ottawa couldn't do anything right in this situation. Glad at least it didn't drag on all summer.
Boedker and Bergman - welcome to the dumpster fire and may god have mercy on your souls