Right before the draft starts Lou is gonna hand Snow his leggos and tell him not to make any noise for the next 3 hours
- Vukota

Really could not care any less on if he's in charge or not. Though I am far from a Lou mark in looking at his GM record post-CBA. I think he is a long way from the old days where he did amazing things. Though I do think his true help will be in organization advancement.

Isles needed the change. Especially after the last 2 years being flubbed and Snow's inability to move forward with no budget limitations with the new owners. I have always preferred an analytics approach (I've said this numerous times over the years) and Snow, plus his coaches seemed to drag their feet on going fully to the hilt on this. Lou comes in from Toronto's HEAVY use, and I do think we will see some aspects of this used/employed.
- B.D. Gallof

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.

Guy is such a clown the more I think about it this is the most painful and humiliating way for his garbage can career to end and I'm totally on board with it
- Cptmjl

100%. Make him watch (and get lunch for everyone). Funny thing.....a real “player” in the NHL, gets demoted and finds work elsewhere, I.E Lou Lam. Snow knows he’s not worth squat, and will suck on that Wang contract like it’s a McDonalds milkshake

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

Says the team with Matthews, Nylander, Marner, etc etc etc. I cry alligator tears for the Leafs.

- 21peter

Guten tag comrade Petr!

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

Trust me not many are expecting a Cup next year. Any GM the Isles hired would not fix everything overnight. Lou like many GM's in a sports will make mistakes. The important thing is Lou will not make excuses like Garth and Lou will work hard to fix the problems.

Fans on HB will be more part of the process than Garth.
- ses111

ha ha

Guten tag comrade Petr!
- eichiefs9

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

I don't think anyone believes there is a magic Lou-wand that gets waived over the team and everything is fixed. He's unequivocally better than what was here and he got rid of what was here. He's proactive and I can accept swings-and-misses as long as someone is....trying. Not just sitting on their hands hoarding all their assets like eggs that are going to hatch into useful players.

- 21peter

viva los norwai!

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

This is my concern as well.

There is a habit during the rumor period where there is a tendency to WANT things and some BUY-IN to rumors or hopes, taking those rumors as fact. THEN become disappointed when it doesn’t happen. I expect this to happen quite a bit this summer, though the ire won't become as much blame as it did with the previous regime since Lou is new. But there will be some loss of luster, methinks.

I really can't stand the "In Lou We Trust" which was as dumb as "In Garth We Trust".

I don't think anyone believes there is a magic Lou-wand that gets waived over the team and everything is fixed. He's unequivocally better than what was here and he got rid of what was here. He's proactive and I can accept swings-and-misses as long as someone is....trying. Not just sitting on their hands hoarding all their assets like eggs that are going to hatch into useful players.
- eichiefs9

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Also agree. Snow was conservative to a fault... especially with JT's free agency hanging in the air with this season's wreckage. Lou is certainly willing to take some risks.

I don't think anyone believes there is a magic Lou-wand that gets waived over the team and everything is fixed. He's unequivocally better than what was here and he got rid of what was here. He's proactive and I can accept swings-and-misses as long as someone is....trying. Not just sitting on their hands hoarding all their assets like eggs that are going to hatch into useful players.
- eichiefs9

Exactly! Lou had rough times with Devils same as Torrey with the Isles and Lombardi with the Kings. Lou will make moves with the Isles with the best intentions and some will just not work out. Lou will just keep trying and will work to fix things.

Says the team with Matthews, Nylander, Marner, etc etc etc. I cry alligator tears for the Leafs.
- kindlyrick

Matthews: consensus 1st overall pick.
Nylander: not Lou's era
Marner: 5th pick overall - and everyone in top 10 (except Strome) look good.
Etc. Etc. Etc.: sadly, there really isn't anyone after that. Dermott looks OK. Bracco is almost officially a bust. Nothing else great in the pipeline, I'm afraid.

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Also agree. Snow was conservative to a fault... especially with JT's free agency hanging in the air with this season's wreckage. Lou is certainly willing to take some risks.
- B.D. Gallof

I'll readily admit that I liked what Snow was doing in the earlier, post-Tavares years. He was, seemingly, drafting well and being the antithesis of Milbury. He didn't sling picks, prospects, and young players around like they were spare change found in the couch and I loved that. But it got to a point where he was just a hoarder and was too afraid to part with anything to improve the NHL roster and that's obviously when things soured.

I don't think Lou is the end-all, be-all of GM's/executives, but I do know that he's going to do what he thinks is right to improve the team. I can accept failure, to a degree, but I can't accept not trying.

I'll readily admit that I liked what Snow was doing in the earlier, post-Tavares years. He was, seemingly, drafting well and being the antithesis of Milbury. He didn't sling picks, prospects, and young players around like they were spare change found in the couch and I loved that. But it got to a point where he was just a hoarder and was too afraid to part with anything to improve the NHL roster and that's obviously when things soured.

I don't think Lou is the end-all, be-all of GM's/executives, but I do know that he's going to do what he thinks is right to improve the team. I can accept failure, to a degree, but I can't accept not trying.
- eichiefs9

It could have went very differently for Garth if he hired a real coach after JT was drafted and if Garth continued to add young talent around JT and put a focus on developing talent. Garth was never secure enough in having real hockey people around him.

Don't get me wrong, Lou is definitely an improvement over your previous regime.

But Islanders fans need to temper their expectations - he isn't going to wave a magic Lou wand and make everything better overnight.

His track record in Toronto doesn't scream "miracle worker." In particular, I would point to his work at the draft (minus his drafting in the top 5 picks) as being weaker than average.
- Atomic Wedgie

You could have stopped right at the bold.

You could have stopped right at the bold.
- Cptmjl

I love how Lou gets all the blame with the Leafs and Shanny all the praise. Has Shanny ever built teams as a GM like Lou did with the Devils?

I'll readily admit that I liked what Snow was doing in the earlier, post-Tavares years. He was, seemingly, drafting well and being the antithesis of Milbury. He didn't sling picks, prospects, and young players around like they were spare change found in the couch and I loved that. But it got to a point where he was just a hoarder and was too afraid to part with anything to improve the NHL roster and that's obviously when things soured.

I don't think Lou is the end-all, be-all of GM's/executives, but I do know that he's going to do what he thinks is right to improve the team. I can accept failure, to a degree, but I can't accept not trying.
- eichiefs9

Agree with first paragraph and this is what annoys me when people lump the entire thing ignoring Wang's cap floor and also budget limitations after. I do think Snow did well for a while, then really fell flat when it was time to up the ante... and that is when the ORG paid for what was a guy who did well with severe limitations who learned on the job and when inexperience in the other area (when released from it)... then became a big issue and he was way to slow to offset or correct.

And I agree with 2nd paragraph as well. The effort is needed and we need at least half of the moves to pay off.

- 21peter

I guess Norwegians aren't big Louis CK fans

I'll readily admit that I liked what Snow was doing in the earlier, post-Tavares years. He was, seemingly, drafting well and being the antithesis of Milbury. He didn't sling picks, prospects, and young players around like they were spare change found in the couch and I loved that. But it got to a point where he was just a hoarder and was too afraid to part with anything to improve the NHL roster and that's obviously when things soured.

I don't think Lou is the end-all, be-all of GM's/executives, but I do know that he's going to do what he thinks is right to improve the team. I can accept failure, to a degree, but I can't accept not trying.
- eichiefs9

Your snow blowing days are well documented. He has always been a chimp IMO. What he did do wasn't all bad of course but he never did do much when he could he actually became less active when he had the money. He was always half arsed and nobody wanted to play for the guy. He made a half arsed orginization more half arsed and the negatives ALWAYS far outweighed the positives IMO. Overall he will go down as one of the worst GM's in NHL history and was laughed at for his entire career and rightfully so. He single handedly stifled this teams growth for over a decade.

Your snow blowing days are well documented. He has always been a chimp IMO. What he did do wasn't all bad of course but he never did do much when he could he actually became less active when he had the money. He was always half arsed and nobody wanted to play for the guy. He made a half arsed orginization more half arsed and the negatives ALWAYS far outweighed the positives IMO.
- Cptmjl

I’d argue that Snow was the isles worst GM. Close finish but to me he beats Milbury (by a photo finish).

I’d argue that Snow was the isles worst GM. Close finish but to me he beats Milbury (by a photo finish).
- kindlyrick

We've had this debate ad nauseam on here but I don't disagree. The only positive with Garth Snow is we most likely don't have to worry about seeing him in a commentary role due to him having the personality of a paving stone. I apologize to all paving stones in advance.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...-retirement-nhl-coaching/

Not that I expected him to be a serious contender, but cross Sutter off the list of candidates.