That'd only be true if he signs with the Leafs for no other reason than to play for the Leafs.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yes, because there are no other reasons to sign with the Leafs

They arent one of the best teams in the league without him already
They arent a young and up and coming team
They dont have one of the best goal scorers and passers in the league
They dont have on the best coaches in the league

Maybe it was his life time goal to play for his favorite team growing up?
- Garnie

Again, if that's how he makes his decisions (like a 10 year old), he's got some problems. And odds against that are astronomical.

You don't think he could live off $11m/7years over $11m/8 years? ( plus the extra endorsements I'm sure he could get )

He'd get more money from either the Islanders with the 8th year or from a team with a better tax rate. And he doesn't have to play in Toronto to get "extra" endorsements. PK Subban plays in Nashville, doesn't stop him from being in a bunch of commercials on a regular basis.

You get too worked up over this poop...there's rumors ( none of us started ) that he may want to play for him favorite team growing up...some like to chat about it.

These "rumors" are started just to get people interested and talking about a bunch of bullpoop that's not really that likely to happen (e5).

If he doesn't sign with us.....oh well.

Prepare yourself for the "oh well" because it's most likely coming.

its completely reasonable to think a Star player would be interested in playing for a team he used to like as a kid
- senstroll

Nah, not really. In actuality, it rarely happens.

and is in a very good position to compete for a cup over the next few seasons...

1st round exits with garbage defense is a good position to compete for a Cup?

over his current team..which is very much up in the air as to what they are at the moment

whether you put that at 1%, 10% or 99% i dont care.

Current team is run by a certified GM genius now and he'll get more money from them than he'd get in Toronto. If making money and competing for a Cup are truly his desire, he'd go to Vegas or Nashville 10 times out of 10 over Toronto and maybe the Islanders if he's okay with passing on the extra year he'd lose out on.

Again, if that's how he makes his decisions (like a 10 year old), he's got some problems. And odds against that are astronomical.



He'd get more money from either the Islanders with the 8th year or from a team with a better tax rate. And he doesn't have to play in Toronto to get "extra" endorsements. PK Subban plays in Nashville, doesn't stop him from being in a bunch of commercials on a regular basis.



These "rumors" are started just to get people interested and talking about a bunch of bullpoop that's not really that likely to happen (e5).



Prepare yourself for the "oh well" because it's most likely coming.
- Unholy_Goalie

NY taxes are just as big as Toronto im pretty sure. Also, PK subban got a lot of those deals while he was on the Habs, not after he was traded. Likely would have gotten less or none had he been on Nashville at the time.

who's saying that.

if he makes it to ufa, toronto has a chance of signing him chance > 0. that is all.
- Tumbleweed

SportsNet/Fan590 had the chances of Tavares staying with the Islanders at about 70%


Quickly doing "UG math"


Islanders 70%
29 Other NHL teams showing interest in JT, accounts for 30%
Leaving the Leafs at 0%

Nah, not really. In actuality, it rarely happens.



1st round exits with garbage defense is a good position to compete for a Cup?



Current team is run by a certified GM genius now and he'll get more money from them than he'd get in Toronto. If making money and competing for a Cup are truly his desire, he'd go to Vegas or Nashville 10 times out of 10 over Toronto and maybe the Islanders if he's okay with passing on the extra year he'd lose out on.
- Unholy_Goalie

You are delusional

Again, if that's how he makes his decisions (like a 10 year old), he's got some problems. And odds against that are astronomical.



He'd get more money from either the Islanders with the 8th year or from a team with a better tax rate. And he doesn't have to play in Toronto to get "extra" endorsements. PK Subban plays in Nashville, doesn't stop him from being in a bunch of commercials on a regular basis.



These "rumors" are started just to get people interested and talking about a bunch of bullpoop that's not really that likely to happen (e5).



Prepare yourself for the "oh well" because it's most likely coming.
- Unholy_Goalie

Money isn't everything...or you wouldn't be on the internet acting like a tit and instead would be working towards making more money yourself???

The guy could probably quit hockey right now and never have to worry about money...so if basing a decision on something other then money makes him mature as a 10 year old...we're probably all guilty with the time we waste on here.

*calls mom to see if lunch is ready*

1) Last year was June 18th.

2) Depends on the contract they sign, but I believe (going off of stuff I've read over the years) most guys re-submit every year.

3) Six days before July 1st.
- Atomic Wedgie

thanx

Yes, because there are no other reasons to sign with the Leafs

They arent one of the best teams in the league without him already
They arent a young and up and coming team
They dont have one of the best goal scorers and passers in the league
They dont have on the best coaches in the league
- Archaic

They aren't.

Young, up and coming but zero defense and still losing in the 1st round.

Who would that be exactly? Matthews and Marner? Among the best in the league? Right now? That's not exactly true either. Maybe in the future but as of right now there are several better scorers and passers. They definitely have the potential to get there but they aren't there right now.

Babcock isn't the only coach in the NHL to win a Cup. He's got 1. He's got a certain style that everybody knows about. Doesn't exactly rub everybody the right way. Peter Laviolette has a Cup too and coaches a better team. Hard to say Babcock wins over a UFA. He's not Scotty Bowman.

It's franking Dubas.

Punk millenial grew up playing video games and eating sugary cereal - he has the attention span of a gnat.

He was probably walking to the elevator to go sign Tavares when he lost track of his thoughts, and went back to his desk and started trying to sign Carlson.

FML.

I can't wait for Dubas to frank up our 2019 lottery pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

From the German division II league there is a 27 year old defenseman who has a CF% of 72.973561. He shoots the puck towards the net from everywhere on the ice. Since I have been assured that there is a direct, and perfect, correlation between shooting the puck and the amount of time possessing the puck, it means his team possesses the puck 72.973561% of the time when he is on the ice.

This is only numbers. It cannot be questioned.

He will definitely be there at 25. In fact, he will be there in round 7 at 25. ... but we need to snap him up in round 1.

or trade our pick for 2 3rds and a 6th.

Money isn't everything...or you wouldn't be on the internet acting like a tit and instead would be working towards making more money yourself???

The guy could probably quit hockey right now and never have to worry about money...so if basing a decision on something other then money makes him mature as a 10 year old...we're probably all guilty with the time we waste on here.

*calls mom to see if lunch is ready*
- Garnie

If you are going in for lunch, can you leave your net so we can continue to play?

NY taxes are just as big as Toronto im pretty sure. Also, PK subban got a lot of those deals while he was on the Habs, not after he was traded. Likely would have gotten less or none had he been on Nashville at the time.
- Archaic

They're lower. Not by as much as they are in Nashville or Dallas or Vegas or Florida, but they're still lower. He could always live in a different state in the New York area and find a lower tax rate.

Doesn't matter where they play, they'll get the commercial deals just the same. The endorsement bullpoop is bullpoop. Hasn't landed a single UFA for the Leafs yet.

If you are going in for lunch, can you leave your net so we can continue to play?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, but i'm taking my ball.

-UG

who are you really trying to convince of this?
Its not that big a deal if he stays or signs somewhere else. could be with the Leafs.. i dont understand why you are trying so hard to convince people of something.

you really have no more insight than anyone else. Its really odd
- senstroll

It is.

From the German division II league there is a 27 year old defenseman who has a CF% of 72.973561. He shoots the puck towards the net from everywhere on the ice. Since I have been assured that there is a direct, and perfect, correlation between shooting the puck and the amount of time possessing the puck, it means his team possesses the puck 72.973561% of the time when he is on the ice.

This is only numbers. It cannot be questioned.

He will definitely be there at 25. In fact, he will be there in round 7 at 25. ... but we need to snap him up in round 1.

or trade our pick for 2 3rds and a 6th.
- Aetherial

He sounds Dubastacular!!!!

Lou can't give JT a Stanley Cup.
So dumb remark
- MaximusAurelius

And how do you know?

Nah, not really. In actuality, it rarely happens.



1st round exits with garbage defense is a good position to compete for a Cup?



Current team is run by a certified GM genius now and he'll get more money from them than he'd get in Toronto. If making money and competing for a Cup are truly his desire, he'd go to Vegas or Nashville 10 times out of 10 over Toronto and maybe the Islanders if he's okay with passing on the extra year he'd lose out on.
- Unholy_Goalie

just off the top of my head. Clarkson was the big UFA and picked the Leafs...because that was his team. i am pretty sure its known that Gretzky wanted to play for the Leafs... its happens.

Its about the perception of who is in a good position to contend for a cup.
Vesey picked the Rangers because he thought thet were a good bet to win..Schultz picked edmonton because they looked like an up an coming team.

whether you think they are a contender or not and if that matters i dont care

SportsNet/Fan590 had the chances of Tavares staying with the Islanders at about 70%


Quickly doing "UG math"


Islanders 70%
29 Other NHL teams showing interest in JT, accounts for 30%
Leaving the Leafs at 0%
- PatC80

Steve Simmons is UG’s dad.

just off the top of my head. Clarkson was the big UFA and picked the Leafs...because that was his team. i am pretty sure its known that Gretzky wanted to play for the Leafs... its happens.

Its about the perception of who is in a good position to contend for a cup.
Vesey picked the Rangers because he thought thet were a good bet to win..Schultz picked edmonton because they looked like an up an coming team.

where you think they are a contender or not and if that matters i dont care
- senstroll

Also Lindros did everything he could to get traded to the Leafs.

Money isn't everything...or you wouldn't be on the internet acting like a tit and instead would be working towards making more money yourself???

The guy could probably quit hockey right now and never have to worry about money...so if basing a decision on something other then money makes him mature as a 10 year old...we're probably all guilty with the time we waste on here.

*calls mom to see if lunch is ready*
- Garnie

Money is a very big thing. These guys are risking their brain and physical health every game they play. And they only have a short window of opportunity to earn a living playing hockey. You can't play 12 million a year playing hockey when you're 50. Even if he becomes the best coach of GM after he retires, he's making less than half of what he would make as a player.

thanx
- BorjeFan4Ever

roomers i've seen on the the twatter are 80 to 82M. nhlpa still hasn't finalized their number...final number supposedly by wednesday.

Anyone watched much of Greg Pateryn? Seen a couple clips and done some scouting report reading and he seems like an intriguing Polak replacement that offers more upside and at 27 has a few good years in the tank.
- Deeps27

Yes, he's a good player. Would be a good addition for the right price. Definitely worth signing as a bottom pairing D.

It's franking Dubas.

Punk millenial grew up playing video games and eating sugary cereal - he has the attention span of a gnat.

He was probably walking to the elevator to go sign Tavares when he lost track of his thoughts, and went back to his desk and started trying to sign Carlson.

FML.

I can't wait for Dubas to frank up our 2019 lottery pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

There won't be much left at 31...

Also Lindros did everything he could to get traded to the Leafs.
- shack67

don't come in here with facts,

I think its going to go nuts between draft and 1st July... Tavares, Carlson, etc...
- BorjeFan4Ever

Nah.
The media will go nuts with useless rumours. As for movement of players.....probably not. Imo.