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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
If he was staying with the Islanders we would know by now. A guy like Taveras doesn't need to 'test the waters' with free agency, he can get whatever he wants from any team. He knows this.

He also knows his salary isn't everything, there are many other intangibles he can get from playing in the right market. Endorsements, paid appearances and investment opportunities to name a few. He can become far wealthier (if that's what he wants) in a market like Toronto then he could practically anywhere else.

- TrashPanda


That's not true because he doesn't know what other teams are willing to offer him.

If the Islanders are currently offering 10 a year for 8 years and he talks to other teams that offer him 12 a year for 7 years, he'd be losing out on money, so he goes back to the Islanders and maybe they give him 10.5 or 11 a year for 8 years instead.

He can't get whatever he wants. But he might get a bit more.

And again with this bullpoop "endorsements" fantasy...
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 18 @ 2:07 PM ET
Why would Tavares make up his mind before he can talk to other teams? How does that make any sense at all?
- Unholy_Goalie


He can literally show up at any team's office and get what he wants, which is why. If he was staying with the Islanders he would have had his 8-year max contract signed by now.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
Except actual great players that came to Toronto in their prime for less money, on a worse team just because it's the Leafs.
- Unholy_Goalie

Tim. Connolly. Jeff. FInger.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 18 @ 2:08 PM ET
That's not true because he doesn't know what other teams are willing to offer him.

If the Islanders are currently offering 10 a year for 8 years and he talks to other teams that offer him 12 a year for 7 years, he'd be losing out on money, so he goes back to the Islanders and maybe they give him 10.5 or 11 a year for 8 years instead.

He can't get whatever he wants. But he might get a bit more.

And again with this bullpoop "endorsements" fantasy...

- Unholy_Goalie


Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:09 PM ET
He can literally show up at any team's office and get what he wants, which is why. If he was staying with the Islanders he would have had his 8-year max contract signed by now.
- TrashPanda


No he can't. Nobody is going to give him more than McDavid. He's very good but he's not THAT good.

The max contract is 16 million dollars (20% of 80 million). Nobody is giving him that.
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 18 @ 2:11 PM ET
No he can't. Nobody is going to give him more than McDavid. He's very good but he's not THAT good.

The max contract is 16 million dollars (20% of 80 million). Nobody is giving him that.

- Unholy_Goalie


Yet you were happy with 12 million a few posts ago, and I'll bet JT would be too.

He's going to get paid anywhere he wants to play, and he knows it.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
That's not true because he doesn't know what other teams are willing to offer him.

If the Islanders are currently offering 10 a year for 8 years and he talks to other teams that offer him 12 a year for 7 years, he'd be losing out on money, so he goes back to the Islanders and maybe they give him 10.5 or 11 a year for 8 years instead.

He can't get whatever he wants. But he might get a bit more.

And again with this bullpoop "endorsements" fantasy...

- Unholy_Goalie





Matthews has a deal with Porsche
Nylander has a deal with Volvo
Marner has a deal with Intact Insurace

Seeing as there are no other companies in Ontario, no one will agree to a deal with Tavares.

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
That's not true because he doesn't know what other teams are willing to offer him.

If the Islanders are currently offering 10 a year for 8 years and he talks to other teams that offer him 12 a year for 7 years, he'd be losing out on money, so he goes back to the Islanders and maybe they give him 10.5 or 11 a year for 8 years instead.

He can't get whatever he wants. But he might get a bit more.

And again with this bullpoop "endorsements" fantasy...

- Unholy_Goalie


Leafs showed up with the Canadian Tire guy for the Stamkos meeting.

Not sure why you think it's bullpoop...but carry on.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:13 PM ET
Who thinks Ottawa is going to make a deal prior the draft or at the draft?
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:14 PM ET
Leafs showed up with the Canadian Tire guy for the Stamkos meeting.

Not sure why you think it's bullpoop...but carry on.

- Garnie


And Stamkos plays for what team right now?

Right...
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:15 PM ET


Matthews has a deal with Porsche
Nylander has a deal with Volvo
Marner has a deal with Intact Insurace

Seeing as there are no other companies in Ontario, no one will agree to a deal with Tavares.

- PatC80


you forgot scotiabank. they're the other company in ontario.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:15 PM ET
Leafs showed up with the Canadian Tire guy for the Stamkos meeting.

Not sure why you think it's bullpoop...but carry on.

- Garnie



Easy, because Stamkos turned all those offers from Canadian Tire/ScotiaBank/Feck, even John Tory was there...

UG Logic... Because Stamkos turned it down, so too will Tavares..
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:15 PM ET
Who thinks Ottawa is going to make a deal prior the draft or at the draft?
- Aaron_85

If you mean a Randy Lee and Monika Caryk plea deals, id say very likely
TrashPanda
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Your Green Bin, ON
Joined: 03.29.2018

Jun 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
And Stamkos plays for what team right now?

Right...

- Unholy_Goalie


The situation is completely different now, and you know it. Then again, I suppose arguing for the sake of arguing is fun?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
And Stamkos plays for what team right now?

Right...

- Unholy_Goalie



Excellent, we have confirmation Steven Stamkos is John Tavares... Dude's been leading a double life since 2008.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
Yet you were happy with 12 million a few posts ago, and I'll bet JT would be too.

He's going to get paid anywhere he wants to play, and he knows it.

- TrashPanda


But certain locations will yield him more money than others and he knows it. Toronto isn't one of them unless they give him money he won't be worth and at that point, it defeats the purpose to sign him and complicate the cap situation even further.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:17 PM ET
you forgot scotiabank. they're the other company in ontario.
- Tumbleweed



Dangit..

My bad.

You're right, there are only 4 companies in all of Ontario.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
And Stamkos plays for what team right now?

Right...

- Unholy_Goalie


Uh the Leafs sucked then, not so much now. Completely different scenario. To say it is the same is idiocy.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:18 PM ET
Who thinks Ottawa is going to make a deal prior the draft or at the draft?
- Aaron_85


i think dorion (frank)s it up and lets this poop drag out all summer.

Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Jun 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
Excellent, we have confirmation Steven Stamkos is John Tavares... Dude's been leading a double life since 2008.
- PatC80

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
If you mean a Randy Lee and Monika Caryk plea deals, id say very likely
- Archaic

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jun 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
Why would Tavares make up his mind before he can talk to other teams? How does that make any sense at all?
- Unholy_Goalie

It doesn't, the only thing that makes sense is that he's not coming to Toronto.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Jun 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
The situation is completely different now, and you know it. Then again, I suppose arguing for the sake of arguing is fun?
- TrashPanda


Uh the Leafs sucked then, not so much now. Completely different scenario. To say it is the same is idiocy.
- Archaic


Yup, completely different situation. The Leafs are still making early exits while Nashville and Vegas are going to the Cup Finals with plenty of cap space and a better tax rate. It is definitely different but still not in your favor.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
And Stamkos plays for what team right now?

Right...

- Unholy_Goalie


He decided to stay in TB...no big deal..I guess it wasn't all about the money for Stamkos either.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 2:21 PM ET
It doesn't, the only thing that makes sense is that he's not coming to Toronto.
- bobbyisno1


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