If they made that deal, i will happily be proven wrong. He definitely is solid offensively and has good puck possession metrics, just not sold on him defensively. Plus, why is he on the block again?
- airjan23

I’m not sure he is on the block. More speculation from so called experts. They need wingers and have some good young dmen

jets will give you myers for a late 1rst, lay off trouba
- Ross77

Are Jets willing to give him 7 mil for 8 years?

Both regular stats (17-27-44) and advanced stats (57.4% corsi and +6.7% relative corsi at even strength) suggest Hamilton is an excellent top pairing defenseman. He is 25 and signed for 3 more years at only $5.75M/season, and teams are going to be willing to pay more for a defenseman who can do what he does than they would for Hayes. In contrast, this season Hayes had 3 fewer points as a forward (although in 6 fewer games) and had a 45.9% corsi and -0.5% relative corsi. While Hayes might very well have room to grow, I (and I imagine most GMs) would absolutely take Hamilton right now, both as the more valuable player and because he would net more in a trade if the Rangers wanted to flip him for picks/prospects.
- DonzoBean

As I said, it may be a perception thing for me. Know the advanced metrics bear out what he does. But Hayes was a shut down center the first part of the season and scoring center the second part. If the deal is made, I would understand the rationale and hope Hamilton continues to play as he did last season.

jets will give you myers for a late 1rst, lay off trouba
- Ross77

I love Troubas game, but he’s been in the league 5 years and has already missed 17 17 1 22 and 27 games to injury. Very concerning especially as he gets older.

jets will give you myers for a late 1rst, lay off trouba
- Ross77

Of course they would. Winnipeg needs to free up room for Trouba and Morrissey. They would love to re-sign Stastny of they could. Myers has one year left at $5.5 mil before he becomes a UFA. Maybe they will get a first rounder. It likely won't be from the Rangers.

I love Troubas game, but he’s been in the league 5 years and has already missed 17 17 1 22 and 27 games to injury. Very concerning especially as he gets older.
- nyrangers9479

I sent you a PM re: the mock draft.

Yea post dat shyt
- TPC

They had the Rangers taking Dobson at 9, Kupari at 26 and Merkley at 28.

They had the Rangers taking Dobson at 9, Kupari at 26 and Merkley at 28.
- tomburton99

I think the chances of Dobson being available at 9 are slim to none, although behind trading for Draisatl that’s my dream

I sent you a PM re: the mock draft.
- airjan23

Got it

They had the Rangers taking Dobson at 9, Kupari at 26 and Merkley at 28.
- tomburton99

Do you like this?

Where does Bokk end up

Do you like this?

Where does Bokk end up
- TPC

Merkely, no, Kupari yes. Doubt Kupari slips that far. I don't remember where Bokk ends up.

Do you like this?

Where does Bokk end up
- TPC

If we somehow manage to get Dobson at 9 we’re in great shape. Bunch of the mock drafts have him going 4 or 5. Latest I’m seeing him lately is 7/8

After seeing the things people write on here I sincerely hope no one on here really has kids.
- mdw7413

They had the Rangers taking Dobson at 9, Kupari at 26 and Merkley at 28.
- tomburton99

Here are the Rangers' picks from The Hockey News podcast first round mock draft:

Joel Farabee (over Kotkaniemi)
Kravtsov (over Bokk, Kaut and Noel. Merkley went pick before Kravtsov)
Samuelsson (Kjell’s son, over the same names available when Kravtsov was selected)

Here are the Rangers' picks from The Hockey News podcast first round mock draft:

Joel Farabee (over Kotkaniemi)
Kravtsov (over Bokk, Kaut and Noel. Merkley went pick before Kravtsov)
Samuelsson (Kjell’s son, over the same names available when Kravtsov was selected)
- airjan23

That’s a terrible first round

Are Jets willing to give him 7 mil for 8 years?
- junaka3

yes, but i actually see a 4 year deal around 6 as more likely

yes, but i actually see a 4 year deal around 6 as more likely
- Ross77

I think he’s going to want more but I’d be cautious about that, 84 missed games in 5 seasons is a lot.

Of course they would. Winnipeg needs to free up room for Trouba and Morrissey. They would love to re-sign Stastny of they could. Myers has one year left at $5.5 mil before he becomes a UFA. Maybe they will get a first rounder. It likely won't be from the Rangers.
- airjan23

Winnipeg has depth to fill the void left by Myers, not so much for Trouba. Myers can help a lot of teams, hope one bites and gives us a first. Jets could always add a young RFA like Petan, Armia or Dano if it helps get it done. I just don’t see a Hayes plus for Trouba as the answer right now for Winnipeg’s cap issues.

I love Troubas game, but he’s been in the league 5 years and has already missed 17 17 1 22 and 27 games to injury. Very concerning especially as he gets older.
- nyrangers9479

I get that. He’s never hurt badly but 15-20 games a year is concerning. Trouba has not yet received power play time in Winnipeg, if he did, his value would be even higher as his point totals would be greatly increased.

Hagelin’s production has nose dived while Grabner, at least until his time with the Devils, was on an upswing. Part of that was due to an unsustainable shooting percentage. But I view Grabner as a much bigger offensive threat and better penalty killer than Hagelin.
- airjan23

Grabner would be my first choice over Hagelin to bring back as a UFA due to his greater offensive ability, despite if it requires a 3 year minimum term at $3.5M or slightly higher. I do not understand why anyone would be against that idea, just due to him not playing well enough for the Devils from just prior to last season's trade deadline. In 2 seasons worth of 135 games played for the Rangers, Grabner tallied 52 Goals, (yes, which included a couple hands full of empty netters), plus 19 Assists for 71 Points, and was a +33 in rating, including a +11 in the playoff less, 2017/18 season.
In fact, it was Grabner's arrival which improved the offensive games of Kevin Hayes and J.T. Miller, when that unit was the Rangers most productive line two seasons ago for its first 6 or 7 weeks, until Zibanejad broke his fibula that November. As a result, A.V. separated that line to compensate for Zib's loss, and never again reunited them for more than an occasional game, or even just a few shifts, including after Zib's return about 2 months later. That line led to the Rangers scoring 4 or more goals in 11 of their first 17 games of that 2016/17 season's 13-4-0 start, which ended with 102 points.

Skjei name was pretty much just thrown out there, but I would definitely consider Draisaitl a significant player!! Consider how loaded with left handed defensive prospects we are too... also, I would’ve swapped Skjei for Trouba in a heartbeat
- junaka3

When the Rangers sought to acquire Trouba last June, the talks ended due to them not willing to include the LH shooting, Skjei, who Winnipeg had demanded as one return piece, to fill their need then on the left side of their back line.
Trouba had only 3 Goals & 21 Assists last season in about 22:00 average TOI in 55 games played, with rumors that he may be seeking $7M annually on his next contract. We were worried a year ago on what McDonagh's price would be after the 2018/19 season. What would Carlson and Karlsson each be worth then in comparison as d'men to the nearly annually injury prone, Trouba, in having played in over 65 games in just one of his 5 NHL seasons?

In 2016/17, Skjei in 80 games had 5 Goals & 34 Assists, & was a (+11).
In 2017/18, Skjei in 82 games had 4 Goals & 21 Assists, & was a (-27).

But that +/- drop of a (-38) difference in one season was by far not just Skjei's fault. How about other reasons contributing just on their back line alone:
*Shatty only being able to play 46 games, but doing so with a torn meniscus.
*Smith's poor season prior to being demoted.
*The deadline trades of Holden and their 8 years, #1 d'man in McDonagh.

That all applied greater pressure on Skjei last season to be the back line go to leader under a lost coaching staff, due in part to their injuries. That's why a developmental type head coach in Quinn was brought in to properly develop better and faster their youngsters like a Brady Skjei. So I again would not part with Skjei as just one piece in a deal specifically to acquire Trouba, and want to see if he can again be at least the Brady Skjei of two seasons ago under Quinn.

If they made that deal, i will happily be proven wrong. He definitely is solid offensively and has good puck possession metrics, just not sold on him defensively. Plus, why is he on the block again?
- airjan23

I don’t really think he is.

I think they’re desperate to get back into the first round of the draft as well as add a solid winger and Afters Brodie’s poor season, he might not be garnering the attention they hoped so the rumour guys came up with this one

I doubt Hamilton goes anywhere. U don’t move young defenders like him that u have under contract for awhile yet.

That said, as an Oiler fan, I’d love to be wrong and see him moved out of the division

If they made that deal, i will happily be proven wrong. He definitely is solid offensively and has good puck possession metrics, just not sold on him defensively. Plus, why is he on the block again?
- airjan23

Who says he's on the block? Most of the so-called "experts" say he's on the block. Here in Calgary, he's known as one of the few "untouchables" here. Now if you as about Brodie.....

If they made that deal, i will happily be proven wrong. He definitely is solid offensively and has good puck possession metrics, just not sold on him defensively. Plus, why is he on the block again?
- airjan23

Who says he's on the block? Most of the so-called "experts" say he's on the block. Here in Calgary, he's known as one of the few "untouchables" here. Now if you as about Brodie.....
- jbclark

no, Rangers don't need a LHD

Rangers need a RHD

no, Rangers don't need a LHD

Rangers need a RHD
- jimbro83

But not the injury prone Trouba at the rumors of likely $7M annually, in exchange for Brady Skjei as just one piece going to the Jets. One year ago, we both would not have made that move, just as Gorton wouldn't do so either. Let's see if under Quinn, if Skjei can return to at least being the Brady Skjei of two seasons ago.
There are too many uncertainties with Trouba as to where he really wants to play, and on how much & long a term he really wants, except for that annual $7M salary rumor that was circulated in Winnipeg.