I just think the memorial cup will push him behind Dahlin. He also has good size and skating.
- J35Bacher

I think you're sleeping on how good Hughes is. Dobson would be even with Boqvist for me and I like Smith over Bouchard. Maybe it is just because I suspect Bouchard will end up with the Rangers that I have grown to dislike him

I just think the memorial cup will push him behind Dahlin. He also has good size and skating.
- J35Bacher

It's very possible, I have him so close to Hughes in my rankings that it's more like 2A and 2B.

I think you're sleeping on how good Hughes is. Dobson would be even with Boqvist for me and I like Smith over Bouchard. Maybe it is just because I suspect Bouchard will end up with the Rangers that I have grown to dislike him
- YuenglingJagr

Dobson biggest advantage over Hughes is his size and that he shoots right. Hughes, to me, is the bit more dynamic player and from what I've seen, he can do everything at full speed and he reacts well under pressure. That's why I give him a slight nod over Dobson.

I like Smith a lot, and if he reaches his full potential, I can see him becoming a player similar to Kimmo Timonen. Bouchard gets the nod for me mainly due to his size, the RH shot and his fantastic passing/playmaking skills. It's really close in my book. After Dahlin, comes Hughes and Dobson, then just a small step down the next tier would be Bouchard, Boqvist and Smith. If by some miracle, any one of those last 3 fell to 14, picking that guy should be a no brainer.

Dobson biggest advantage over Hughes is his size and that he shoots right. Hughes, to me, is the bit more dynamic player and from what I've seen, he can do everything at full speed and he reacts well under pressure. That's why I give him a slight nod over Dobson.

I like Smith a lot, and if he reaches his full potential, I can see him becoming a player similar to Kimmo Timonen. Bouchard gets the nod for me mainly due to his size, the RH shot and his fantastic passing/playmaking skills. It's really close in my book. After Dahlin, comes Hughes and Dobson, then just a small step down the next tier would be Bouchard, Boqvist and Smith. If by some miracle, any one of those last 3 fell to 14, picking that guy should be a no brainer.
- BiggE

Yeah we are going streaking if any of those guys fall to us at 14

It's very possible, I have him so close to Hughes in my rankings that it's more like 2A and 2B.
- BiggE

I agree.

But with guys being close I think size pushes him a little ahead of Hughes.

I think there could be a lot of trades this draft. If cap goes to 80 I think you could see some teams take on a contract with money. Also I wonder with teams like AZ, Edmonton, Islanders and Montreal wanting to win sooner then later do they look to move 1st rounders to compete this year.

Just could be interesting and especially since the Flyers have two picks, prospects and cap space for once to play around with.

I think an “A” is a bit of stretch. A GM needs to build a team that can at least win a playoff round before I’d grade him that high.

I like Hextall, and, with just a few minor quibbles, agree with his philosophy, but I think a B+ is about the highest grade I can give him at this point in time.
- BiggE

yeah he has to win a round, this is the season we can really grade Hex, he has the pipeline, he has top players and he has the cap space. He needs to show he is proficient in using all the tools to get an A grade.

Dobson biggest advantage over Hughes is his size and that he shoots right. Hughes, to me, is the bit more dynamic player and from what I've seen, he can do everything at full speed and he reacts well under pressure. That's why I give him a slight nod over Dobson.

I like Smith a lot, and if he reaches his full potential, I can see him becoming a player similar to Kimmo Timonen. Bouchard gets the nod for me mainly due to his size, the RH shot and his fantastic passing/playmaking skills. It's really close in my book. After Dahlin, comes Hughes and Dobson, then just a small step down the next tier would be Bouchard, Boqvist and Smith. If by some miracle, any one of those last 3 fell to 14, picking that guy should be a no brainer.
- BiggE

And KAndre Miller could have a higher upside then some of them if he gets time to develop which the Flyers could give since they are young there.

And KAndre Miller could have a higher upside then some of them if he gets time to develop which the Flyers could give since they are young there.
- J35Bacher

It's certainly possible.

It's certainly possible.
- BiggE

Just for poops and giggles if you had to pick one guy to go higher then expected and one to drop, who would you go with?

For me the riser would be Serron Noel as I think people will be caught up in his size.

The dropper would be Veleno. I know he had exceptional status but I think he could drop.

Just for poops and giggles if you had to pick one guy to go higher then expected and one to drop, who would you go with?

For me the riser would be Serron Noel as I think people will be caught up in his size.

The dropper would be Veleno. I know he had exceptional status but I think he could drop.
- J35Bacher

Riser: Miller or Kotkaniemi
Dropper: Boqvist or Veleno

Have the Flyers already interviewed any of the players? Do they interview this week? Do we know who they are or have interviewed? Will they interview everyone?

Have the Flyers already interviewed any of the players? Who they this week? Do we know who they are or have interviewed? Will every interview everyone?
- SuperSchennBros

Players were interviewed at the combine. Not sure the total list of guys the Flyers spoke to.

Players were interviewed at the combine. Not sure the total list of guys the Flyers spoke to.
- BiggE

Excuse my missing of words and thank you.

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Keep in mind I have seen multiple Buffalo fans say ROR is worth....


2018 3rd overall....plus and plus....

NO retained salary.
- Glak18

I want no part of that salary. In my opinion he isn't worth 7.5 now let alone in 5 years.

How do the Flames not have a pick in the first 3 rounds of this draft?
- hereticpride

I want no part of that salary. In my opinion he isn't worth 7.5 now let alone in 5 years.
- nastyflyergirl

Yeah, he's a very good #2C who is dominant on faceoffs and can kill penalties. If he only had one year left at 7.5, I'd be very interested as the Flyers have ample room this year. But even at a reduced rate of say 6 million per, I'd still probably pass, 5 years is just too much remaining term for my liking.

Riser: Miller or Kotkaniemi
Dropper: Boqvist or Veleno
- BiggE

Man getting that 5 pick would be nice. Yougo almost go anyway depending on what happens 2-4. If it went Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Hughes you can get your big skating RHD in Dobson, the supposed better Tkatchuk, Wahlstrom, Zadina.

AZ looking to win now would Simmonds be more interesting to them?

To AZ: Simmonds, 19 and Weal
To Philly: 5 and Crouse

Man getting that 5 pick would be nice. Yougo almost go anyway depending on what happens 2-4. If it went Dahlin, Svechnikov, Kotkaniemi, Hughes you can get your big skating RHD in Dobson, the supposed better Tkatchuk, Wahlstrom, Zadina.

AZ looking to win now would Simmonds be more interesting to them?

To AZ: Simmonds, 19 and Weal
To Philly: 5 and Crouse
- J35Bacher

I've heard all the win now talk re Arizona, but until Strome can show that he can be a top 6 center at the NHL level, that team isn't coming anywhere close to contending no matter what that moron Tanner thinks. I can't see anyway that Arizona is moving that #5 pick when the main piece coming back is a winger. Especially one who is 30 years old and coming off an injury plagued season. If they are moving the 5th overall, I'm guessing a center will be coming back in the deal.

Yeah, he's a very good #2C who is dominant on faceoffs and can kill penalties. If he only had one year left at 7.5, I'd be very interested as the Flyers have ample room this year. But even at a reduced rate of say 6 million per, I'd still probably pass, 5 years is just too much remaining term for my liking.
- BiggE

There are two other guys on Buffalo that interest me depending on cost because I think both have underachieved.

Bogosian. Hasn't lived up to his billing when drafted but is a big defensman and still young. Could you do a straight swapp for Gudas. Buffalo saves some money. Bogosian has had an injury history so maybe they get more games from Gudas.

The other player is Girgensons. Big center who maybe can center your 3rd line until Forst or someoene is ready. Can slide to wing. Also kills penalties I believe. Plays a heavy game. Buffalo has seemed to sour on him a little since he was drafted.

I've heard all the win now talk re Arizona, but until Strome can show that he can be a top 6 center at the NHL level, that team isn't coming anywhere close to contending no matter what that moron Tanner thinks. I can't see anyway that Arizona is moving that #5 pick when the main piece coming back is a winger. Especially one who is 30 years old and coming off an injury plagued season. If they are moving the 5th overall, I'm guessing a center will be coming back in the deal.
- BiggE

Your probably right.

Just talking here not advocating but what about Voracek and 19 for 5 and some more. I know Voracek is a winger but does he make something happen at 5? that then would allow you to re-sign Simmonds maybe to more money and shorter term.

There are two other guys on Buffalo that interest me depending on cost because I think both have underachieved.

Bogosian. Hasn't lived up to his billing when drafted but is a big defensman and still young. Could you do a straight swapp for Gudas. Buffalo saves some money. Bogosian has had an injury history so maybe they get more games from Gudas.

The other player is Girgensons. Big center who maybe can center your 3rd line until Forst or someoene is ready. Can slide to wing. Also kills penalties I believe. Plays a heavy game. Buffalo has seemed to sour on him a little since he was drafted.
- J35Bacher

Hmm, Bogo has 2 years left just north of 5.1 and man, that dude gets hurt a lot. When he's healthy he's a very solid top 4 guy, but he never seems to be able to make it through a full season. If I could get him for Gudas straight up, yeah, why not? But that's about all I'd be willing to part with for him.

Girgensons is interesting, he'd be a decent 3C and is signed for one more year at 1.6 million. He'll be an RFA after that. He's been pegged as an underachiever in Buffalo, but I think he's a guy they rushed and put too much on his shoulders at a young age. I'd be willing to deal for him, but I'm not sure what Buffalo would want back. My best guess would be a young NHL ready Dman and the only one I would even consider moving for Girgensons would be Hagg.

Your probably right.

Just talking here not advocating but what about Voracek and 19 for 5 and some more. I know Voracek is a winger but does he make something happen at 5? that then would allow you to re-sign Simmonds maybe to more money and shorter term.
- J35Bacher

I'd much rather hold onto Voracek at 8.25 million than re-sign Simmonds to a deal that will almost certainly be north of 6 million. Jake is the better skater, has a build and frame that will likely be much more durable, and is a much better player at ES and in regards to possession.

Hmm, Bogo has 2 years left just north of 5.1 and man, that dude gets hurt a lot. When he's healthy he's a very solid top 4 guy, but he never seems to be able to make it through a full season. If I could get him for Gudas straight up, yeah, why not? But that's about all I'd be willing to part with for him.

Girgensons is interesting, he'd be a decent 3C and is signed for one more year at 1.6 million. He'll be an RFA after that. He's been pegged as an underachiever in Buffalo, but I think he's a guy they rushed and put too much on his shoulders at a young age. I'd be willing to deal for him, but I'm not sure what Buffalo would want back. My best guess would be a young NHL ready Dman and the only one I would even consider moving for Girgensons would be Hagg.
- BiggE

Yeah. Again it would depend on what the cost is. I also know the Oilers want a right handed shooting defender. Can we pawn Gudas off on them? I know it won't get you 10 but a 2nd rounder?

I'd much rather hold onto Voracek at 8.25 million than re-sign Simmonds to a deal that will almost certainly be north of 6 million. Jake is the better skater, has a build and frame that will likely be much more durable, and is a much better player at ES and in regards to possession.
- BiggE

You think Simmonds gets something north of 6?