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peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
I hope you are right and do think he’s done a fantastic job re-stocking the prospect pipeline. My only real complaint, and it’s far from a big one, is that I believe he has a tendency to put a bit too much emphasis on a kid being a 200 foot player. A player can learn to be a better defensive player, can improve their off ice work habits and can improve their skating and skills to some degree. However, the ability to think the game, to make the right plays under pressure, and innate offensive creativity, are a lot harder to teach and/or improve.

I’d like to see a bit more emphasis on those qualities which is why I’d draft a guy like Farabee and even Berggren over Hayton for example.

- BiggE


Why get a 100 foot player when you can get a 200 foot player? All kidding aside I value a coots player more then a guy that just pots goals. I do see the need for a guy who can spark your offense but not at the expense of defense. Defense first. But at this point I would like to see a guy that is a creative sniper get drafted.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
To the nearest millimeter, what is the farthest distance somebody's appendage has infiltrated your transverse colon
- HOWSMYDICTATE

Your the smartest guy in the room
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jun 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Happy Father's Day to all the dads out there.

And the single mom's doing double duty!!!
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jun 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Your the smartest guy in the room
- rinaldo


its too easy
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Jun 17 @ 4:02 PM ET
its too easy
- HOWSMYDICTATE

The punctuation and spelling po-lice patrol. Yeah it is easy. What else you got today ?
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 17 @ 5:45 PM ET
Not able to post link but there is an article on Scheifele being a better player then Coots. Jets took him right before Flyers took Coots and fans have been critical of the pick over Coots and the article was saying why Scheifele is better.

Justify it by points per game played
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 17 @ 6:06 PM ET
Happy Father Day ya’all!

Dad joke of the day: I’m reading a great book about anti-gravity right now. It's so good I can’t seem to put it down!

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
Not able to post link but there is an article on Scheifele being a better player then Coots. Jets took him right before Flyers took Coots and fans have been critical of the pick over Coots and the article was saying why Scheifele is better.

Justify it by points per game played

- peesinwind

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 7:10 PM ET
Happy Father Day ya’all!

Dad joke of the day: I’m reading a great book about anti-gravity right now. It's so good I can’t seem to put it down!

- coffee junkie

Did you hear the one about the blind prostitute? You had to hand it to her.
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Jun 17 @ 7:53 PM ET

- Giroux_Is_God


This is a quote from the Scheifele is better then Coots article

"Even though Couturier is good, no GM would trade Scheifele for Couturier one-for-one."

Really??
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 17 @ 8:12 PM ET
Waiting for Mono’s rankings

BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Norristown, PA
Joined: 01.19.2011

Jun 17 @ 8:16 PM ET
its too easy
- HOWSMYDICTATE


it's

😁
acd513
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.23.2013

Jun 17 @ 8:36 PM ET
If the Flyers retain the 19th pick (they shouldn’t ) and Noel is still on the board, it should be a fireable offense for Hexy not to pick him.
HOWSMYDICTATE
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.30.2017

Jun 17 @ 8:38 PM ET
it's

😁

- BenderRodriguez

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 17 @ 8:46 PM ET
If the Flyers retain the 19th pick (they shouldn’t ) and Noel is still on the board, it should be a fireable offense for Hexy not to pick him.
- acd513


Why? Because he's 6-foot-5? Ratcliffe, a better prospect than Noel a year ago in his draft year (and way better after his d+1 year) went 35th.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:37 PM ET
Why? Because he's 6-foot-5? Ratcliffe, a better prospect than Noel a year ago in his draft year (and way better after his d+1 year) went 35th.
- bmeltzer

Fireable, Bill. FIREABLE
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:46 PM ET
If the Flyers retain the 19th pick (they shouldn’t ) and Noel is still on the board, it should be a fireable offense for Hexy not to pick him.
- acd513

Lol. I lean towards preferring the bigger forward prospects myself but Noel really doesn't wow me in any way. He's in a mix of about 10-12 solid prospects that are going to be available at 19.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:47 PM ET
Fireable, Bill. FIREABLE
- Giroux_Is_God

Could you imagine an owner mandating a 19th overall pick?
Sinisalo4vr
Location: Dont f with the Jesus, PA
Joined: 06.24.2016

Jun 17 @ 11:41 PM ET
Could you imagine an owner mandating a 19th overall pick?
- hereticpride

Daniel Snyder.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 7:33 AM ET
It’s draft (Hexy) week boys
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 7:56 AM ET
It’s draft (Hexy) week boys
- Just5

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 8:44 AM ET
This is such a tough draft to predict. Obviously the Sabres are taking Dahlin at #1 and I'm pretty confident the Canes will stay at #2 and take Svechnikov.

After that...who knows?

If the rumors are true and Kotkaniemi is really the guy the Habs want, I can't see them taking him at #3. Maybe a trade down to #6 with Detroit? Besides #6, the Wings hold picks 30, 33, and 36, so I can definitely the potential for a deal there. If so, I have to think the Wings would take Zadina at #3.

Most folks, and I as well, think Ottawa is going D at #4, but which one will it be? A lot of early mocks had them taking Boqvist, but now most seem to have them taking Hughes or Dobson, with Bouchard as a sleeper pick.

At #5, I would think the Yotes go D as well, but Tkachuk may be hard to resist.

All I can say for sure is that Friday night should be a very interesting first round.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 18 @ 9:00 AM ET
This is such a tough draft to predict. Obviously the Sabres are taking Dahlin at #1 and I'm pretty confident the Canes will stay at #2 and take Svechnikov.

After that...who knows?

If the rumors are true and Kotkaniemi is really the guy the Habs want, I can't see them taking him at #3. Maybe a trade down to #6 with Detroit? Besides #6, the Wings hold picks 30, 33, and 36, so I can definitely the potential for a deal there. If so, I have to think the Wings would take Zadina at #3.

Most folks, and I as well, think Ottawa is going D at #4, but which one will it be? A lot of early mocks had them taking Boqvist, but now most seem to have them taking Hughes or Dobson, with Bouchard as a sleeper pick.

At #5, I would think the Yotes go D as well, but Tkachuk may be hard to resist.

All I can say for sure is that Friday night should be a very interesting first round.

- BiggE



Agree with this.

I think Dobson is first defender taken now. I can see it at 3/4/5. I know Montreal needs a center but they also need defenders, which are always tough to find.

I could see AZ moving the 5th pick to get an instant upgrade to the roster. I think they push to compete next year.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:03 AM ET
Agree with this.

I think Dobson is first defender taken now. I can see it at 3/4/5. I know Montreal needs a center but they also need defenders, which are always tough to find.

I could see AZ moving the 5th pick to get an instant upgrade to the roster. I think they push to compete next year.

- J35Bacher


With you on Dobson, though I think Hughes could go before him. My personal rank of the top 10 Dmen in this draft is:

Dahlin
Hughes
Dobson
Bouchard
Boqvist
Smith
Miller
Sandin
Samuelsson
Wilde

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 18 @ 9:09 AM ET
With you on Dobson, though I think Hughes could go before him. My personal rank of the top 10 Dmen in this draft is:

Dahlin
Hughes
Dobson
Bouchard
Boqvist
Smith
Miller
Sandin
Samuelsson
Wilde

- BiggE



I just think the memorial cup will push him behind Dahlin. He also has good size and skating.



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