While you are correct that Van is still a year a away... dont't overlook the extra ice and impact of Bb.
- Beatle_john

The Canucks playing post Sedin hockey next year will be drafting top 5. Or did you mean they are a year away from doing So?

To Ott: Bryan Little, Andrew Copp, Jacob Trouba, Nik Petan, 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 1st round pick, 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 conditional 1st round pick (Ottawa gets first rounder if Jets win cup in either 2019 or 2020, otherwise guaranteed 2nd round pick in 2020).

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, 2018 1st round pick

To Ott: Bryan Little, Andrew Copp, Jacob Trouba, Nik Petan, 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 1st round pick, 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 conditional 1st round pick (Ottawa gets first rounder if Jets win cup in either 2019 or 2020, otherwise guaranteed 2nd round pick in 2020).

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, 2018 1st round pick
- TheUltimateJet

Are you on drugs?

Are you on drugs?
- sensarmy_11

It's more than the Senators would get from the Avalanche.

The Canucks playing post Sedin hockey next year will be drafting top 5. Or did you mean they are a year away from doing So?
- leonkennedy

Being a Canucks fan, whichever is worse is my expectation.

i never said tavares wasn't worth it, and yes he is one of the top players in the league.

i just don't think that at team in the middle of a rebuild will get into a bidding war for a 28 year old UFA.

The rangers have a lot of good, but not great young pieces. if they want to rebuild properly, which it seems like they want to do, they'll do it through the draft.

spending 10+ mil for Tavares basically guarantees that they can't do that. he'll make them good, but they don't have enough high end pieces around him to make them great.

maybe they do, and if they get him then i'll be the first one back here to say you were right........i just don't see why they'd preach rebuild and then go after the first big fish UFA that comes along. it doesn't make sense.

just my opinion.
- sensarmy_11

As I said, signing him doesn’t keep them from drafting anyone. I don’t see the logic. I don’t get how rebuilding somehow equates to losing. How does signing him guarentee they don’t draft? They’re not trading away picks and prospects. Right now they don’t have a full roster. Doubtful anyone they draft now plays next yer

He will not tarnish his legacy by going to another ny team. Nothing wrong with those teams but people tend to remember those things.
- Beatle_john

Yes, I’m sure that comes up all the time. Can’t tarnish my legacy. Lmao. Maybe he already has a home in city? As I first said, I think he stays with Isles. This is all based on slight chance he hits narket

Yes, I’m sure that comes up all the time. Can’t tarnish my legacy. Lmao. Maybe he already has a home in city? As I first said, I think he stays with Isles. This is all based on slight chance he hits market
- junaka3

1st, I call bullpoop

2nd, in the unlikely event this is true, and Karlsson is extended, the deal (IMO) would be Ott 1st, Col 1st, Barrie, +, +
- sensarmy_11

This is exactly the trade that I was thinking. You are bang on. This is what it will take to get the best defenceman in the league at the prime age that he is. Avs fans will probably figure that this is overpaying but it is not. It doesn't matter that the Sens are a poop show right now - that is the value of the best defenceman in the league and the Avs are one of the few teams who have the assets to pay it - and maybe more importantly, I think Colorado is a team that Karlsson would not mind playing for, considering the upward trajectory they are on. I think the + + in this trade though would just be a single + and that would have to be a B+ prospect not currently playing in the league.

Then enjoy it.....karlsson is the best dman in the league, anyone who wants him will pay out the ass
- sensarmy_11

you're assuming EK wants to even re sign after next year. u guys r hooped.

To Ott: Bryan Little, Andrew Copp, Jacob Trouba, Nik Petan, 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 1st round pick, 2019 3rd round pick, 2020 conditional 1st round pick (Ottawa gets first rounder if Jets win cup in either 2019 or 2020, otherwise guaranteed 2nd round pick in 2020).

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, 2018 1st round pick
- TheUltimateJet

Giving up Karlsson and Zadina/Tkachuk/Dobson for Trouba, a late 1st rounder, 2 seconds, some b players and a bad contract (Little). Not sure...

It's more than the Senators would get from the Avalanche.
- TheUltimateJet

Haha.....trouba, a late 1st, and some scraps for Karlsson and the #4 pick.

That package isn't worth either of those assets alone, let alone both.

From the jets

Ehlers, Trouba, 2018 1st, 2018 2nd

For

Karlsson

Avs-sens 1st, Girard, bowers, 2019 1st
Sens-karlsson

Haha.....trouba, a late 1st, and some scraps for Karlsson and the #4 pick.

That package isn't worth either of those assets alone, let alone both.

From the jets

Ehlers, Trouba, 2018 1st, 2018 2nd

For

Karlsson
- sensarmy_11

Jets don't have a 1st to trade in this draft so I'm not sure how that's gonna work

I believe there are two teams that can step up big for Karlsson...the Islanders and Oilers. Both need to add a #1 Dman to go with a world class centre.

I think Edmonton puts Draisaitl in their offer and that is the deal that finally gets done.

I am okay with the Sens dealing Karlsson. I am more aware of their need to change ownership. If ownership changes in the next 60 days Karlsson resigns in Ottawa.

I believe there are two teams that can step up big for Karlsson...the Islanders and Oilers. Both need to add a #1 Dman to go with a world class centre.

I think Edmonton puts Draisaitl in their offer and that is the deal that finally gets done.

I am okay with the Sens dealing Karlsson. I am more aware of their need to change ownership. If ownership changes in the next 60 days Karlsson resigns in Ottawa.
- spatso

Unless Karlsson comes with an extension,. Oilers are not moving Draisaitl

Unless Karlsson comes with an extension,. Oilers are not moving Draisaitl
- obie

I imagine that if they move him it will be after 2 July so he can be moved with an extension....making his value that much higher

I believe there are two teams that can step up big for Karlsson...the Islanders and Oilers. Both need to add a #1 Dman to go with a world class centre.

I think Edmonton puts Draisaitl in their offer and that is the deal that finally gets done.

I am okay with the Sens dealing Karlsson. I am more aware of their need to change ownership. If ownership changes in the next 60 days Karlsson resigns in Ottawa.
- spatso

Dream on big guy.