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BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 17 @ 12:05 AM ET
He also needs decent players to play alongside him
- VANTEL


leipsic and virtanen it is

we have a really deep bottom 9
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 12:09 AM ET
leipsic and virtanen it is

we have a really deep bottom 9

- BobBot



That could be a line
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 17 @ 12:12 AM ET
That could be a line
- VANTEL


i was thinking a little ahead

interesting to see if dahlen slots in or we draft zadina/tkachuk
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
I will wait . I remember seeing Gaudette and EP playing in the young stars tournament and I thought they were both very skilled and close in talent. I know EP will be better but we were talking 6 months earlier.

I have liked what I seen from Gaudette but by no means is he crushing it in the NHL and I doubt EP will in his first year on this bad team.

- VANTEL

For sure. But EP is several years younger and isn’t physically mature. I’m 100% certain Gaudette will be a solid NHL player but they will obviously provide different roles
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 12:23 AM ET
For sure. But EP is several years younger and isn’t physically mature. I’m 100% certain Gaudette will be a solid NHL player but they will obviously provide different roles
- CanuckDon



I think if EP played with skilled players his first year would be more successful . Unfortunately this is the Canucks
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 17 @ 12:26 AM ET
Perfect
- VANTEL

I dont want to see our good prospects fail with bad linemates. But they might have to struggle with it for a couple more years till our depth comes through. I dont want to go full Edmonton but we need picks to create depth for the team and for future trades.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 17 @ 12:41 AM ET
I think if EP played with skilled players his first year would be more successful . Unfortunately this is the Canucks
- VANTEL

Yes, followed this team since i was 6 listening to my dads clock radio back in 78. What I want is a team buillt through the draft that knows when to sell, and when to buy to go for it. Learn the cap system and use it to their advantage.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 17 @ 1:05 AM ET
Dale Hunter on Evan Bouchard. I think Hunter might know just a bit about hockey...at least a lot more than us here.😁

https://www.google.ca/amp...9dc-9af0-e3e43193048f/amp
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 17 @ 1:16 AM ET
Dale Hunter on Evan Bouchard. I think Hunter might know just a bit about hockey...at least a lot more than us here.😁

https://www.google.ca/amp...9dc-9af0-e3e43193048f/amp

- Reubenkincade


Old news, plus hunter is his coach, he's got a horse in the race.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 1:18 AM ET
Old news, plus hunter is his coach, he's got a horse in the race.
- Pres.cup


and just because dudes are old and suffered brain damage in the NHL for 15 years doesn't mean they're infallible and people should bend to authority.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 17 @ 1:36 AM ET
Old news, plus hunter is his coach, he's got a horse in the race.
- Pres.cup


Heres one that is more recent. I know you are a big Bouchard fan, so I will post several for your reading enjoyment.
https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 17 @ 1:53 AM ET
Old news, plus hunter is his coach, he's got a horse in the race.
- Pres.cup


I found this one here that you might like too read.

https://www.google.ca/amp...wahlstrom-farabee-tkachuk
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 17 @ 2:04 AM ET
Old news, plus hunter is his coach, he's got a horse in the race.
- Pres.cup


This one is also pretty good.
https://www.google.ca/amp...rofile-evan-bouchard/amp/
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 17 @ 2:13 AM ET
Heres one that is more recent. I know you are a big Bouchard fan, so I will post several for your reading enjoyment.
https://thehockeywriters....l-draft-prospect-profile/

- Reubenkincade


He's awesome. I can't wait to hang his Jersey next to my Cam Barker jersey.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:15 AM ET
And the 7th selection van canucks select from Sweden adam boqvist and 1 year down the road he is still in Sweden and being called a bust at 18
- Bettmanhatesus


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVEIotzy3_A
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 17 @ 2:24 AM ET
Trade Hutton for a 4th. Trade the second and 4th for a late first and draft Miller
- CanuckDon



A 2nd and 4th will get us a 1st rd pick? Cool......

rojan61
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 17 @ 2:26 AM ET
And the 7th selection van canucks select from Sweden adam boqvist and 1 year down the road he is still in Sweden and being called a bust at 18
- Bettmanhatesus


Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal is reporting some scouts question Bovquist's work ethic. Sounds like Ben Hutton 2.0 to me.



Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 3:02 AM ET
Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal is reporting some scouts question Bovquist's work ethic. Sounds like Ben Hutton 2.0 to me.


- rojan61


1) Jim Matheson's sources are usually his own ideas

2) his other sources are Oilers mgmt so that sounds like a guy hoping to spread a little discontent about a player the Oilers want to have at their spot

3) seriously, Jim Matheson? Bro Jake has more cred
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 5:40 AM ET
This one is also pretty good.
https://www.google.ca/amp...rofile-evan-bouchard/amp/

- Reubenkincade

Not exactly flattering IMO
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 17 @ 6:35 AM ET
Not exactly flattering IMO
- neem55


You aren't going to get flattering reports for the next tier D below Dahlin anyways. All of the 4 second tier D (Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes) all have flaws. Boqvist has concussion issues and is the youngest of the bunch but with the highest potential upside, Dobson is the safest pick with the all-around game but potentially limited offensive upside, Bouchard is the biggest and has the most NHL ready physique but has defensive issues and Hughes is the smallest of the 4 D and potentially might not be able to translate his offense to the next level.

None of them really excite me at 7, I know Ottawa wouldn't go for it, but I'd offer the 7OA + 37OA + Tanev for Karlsson and see if the pressure to try and get something for him before he gets too close to next July 1st and have nothing to show for him makes them receptive enough to do it. Then July 1st I try and sign Tavares, all of a sudden the outlook looks a hell of a lot brighter.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 17 @ 8:35 AM ET
You aren't going to get flattering reports for the next tier D below Dahlin anyways. All of the 4 second tier D (Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes) all have flaws. Boqvist has concussion issues and is the youngest of the bunch but with the highest potential upside, Dobson is the safest pick with the all-around game but potentially limited offensive upside, Bouchard is the biggest and has the most NHL ready physique but has defensive issues and Hughes is the smallest of the 4 D and potentially might not be able to translate his offense to the next level.

None of them really excite me at 7, I know Ottawa wouldn't go for it, but I'd offer the 7OA + 37OA + Tanev for Karlsson and see if the pressure to try and get something for him before he gets too close to next July 1st and have nothing to show for him makes them receptive enough to do it. Then July 1st I try and sign Tavares, all of a sudden the outlook looks a hell of a lot brighter.

- DariusKnight



I thought that was Mtl's move.
They are in a win-now mode, not us.
Plus, i'm not even sold on Karlsson anymore since his injuries...so....i'd pass on that one.

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 17 @ 8:57 AM ET
You aren't going to get flattering reports for the next tier D below Dahlin anyways. All of the 4 second tier D (Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes) all have flaws. Boqvist has concussion issues and is the youngest of the bunch but with the highest potential upside, Dobson is the safest pick with the all-around game but potentially limited offensive upside, Bouchard is the biggest and has the most NHL ready physique but has defensive issues and Hughes is the smallest of the 4 D and potentially might not be able to translate his offense to the next level.

None of them really excite me at 7, I know Ottawa wouldn't go for it, but I'd offer the 7OA + 37OA + Tanev for Karlsson and see if the pressure to try and get something for him before he gets too close to next July 1st and have nothing to show for him makes them receptive enough to do it. Then July 1st I try and sign Tavares, all of a sudden the outlook looks a hell of a lot brighter.

- DariusKnight

Hell, why not talk the twins out of retirement while you're at it.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:25 AM ET
You aren't going to get flattering reports for the next tier D below Dahlin anyways. All of the 4 second tier D (Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes) all have flaws. Boqvist has concussion issues and is the youngest of the bunch but with the highest potential upside, Dobson is the safest pick with the all-around game but potentially limited offensive upside, Bouchard is the biggest and has the most NHL ready physique but has defensive issues and Hughes is the smallest of the 4 D and potentially might not be able to translate his offense to the next level.

None of them really excite me at 7, I know Ottawa wouldn't go for it, but I'd offer the 7OA + 37OA + Tanev for Karlsson and see if the pressure to try and get something for him before he gets too close to next July 1st and have nothing to show for him makes them receptive enough to do it. Then July 1st I try and sign Tavares, all of a sudden the outlook looks a hell of a lot brighter.

- DariusKnight

The only 28 year old player in the prime of his career the rebuilding Canucks should go after is John Tavares, because he only costs you dollars, not assets!!!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
You aren't going to get flattering reports for the next tier D below Dahlin anyways. All of the 4 second tier D (Boqvist, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes) all have flaws. Boqvist has concussion issues and is the youngest of the bunch but with the highest potential upside, Dobson is the safest pick with the all-around game but potentially limited offensive upside, Bouchard is the biggest and has the most NHL ready physique but has defensive issues and Hughes is the smallest of the 4 D and potentially might not be able to translate his offense to the next level.

None of them really excite me at 7, I know Ottawa wouldn't go for it, but I'd offer the 7OA + 37OA + Tanev for Karlsson and see if the pressure to try and get something for him before he gets too close to next July 1st and have nothing to show for him makes them receptive enough to do it. Then July 1st I try and sign Tavares, all of a sudden the outlook looks a hell of a lot brighter.

- DariusKnight


No trading picks for players. This team badly needs too build through the draft.
At 7 and 37 we should get 2 quality prospects and Tanev should fetch us a decent return when Benning decides to pull the trigger.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
No trading picks for players. This team badly needs too build through the draft.
At 7 and 37 we should get 2 quality prospects and Tanev should fetch us a decent return when Benning decides to pull the trigger.

- Reubenkincade

YA
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