Peter. He’s a similar height, but Peter forsberg was built like a brick poophouse from the waste down. I just think Zadina will have to change his strategies a bit, but phenomenal player.
- neem55

Zadina is 6ft and somewhere above 190lbs at 18. Dude will probably add another 10-13lbs by the time he's 23.

Is he that kid who benched a zillion or whatever at the combine and did a bunch of pull ups?
- Lindenis#1

Ya, he won the combine

We better after going through that season. Outside of Boeser and the Sedins last week farewell tour, it was incredibly boring.
- Nucker101

Hopefully Pettersson can bring excitement like BB did and we get to see some short term call-ups of some other prospects

In the playoffs, yes that’s exactly what I’m saying because it’s reality.
- neem55

Writing players off after a single playoff run is hilarious. He put up 7 in 15.

I guess Matthews is trash too. 7 points in 13 career playoff games. McDavid only managed 9 in 13 games. Laine had 5 goals in 17 games.

Those guys suck too.

Zadina is 6ft and somewhere above 190lbs at 18. Dude will probably add another 10-13lbs by the time he's 23.
- Lindenis#1

He doesn’t have the same body type. What hell “probably” put on is just speculation. I see no reason to think he’ll skate at much more than 200-205 like most 6’ NHLers.

He’s a different type, sure. But he’s not a gritty player. It’s yet to be seen how he’ll react to getting crushed, as he’s big for the Q. He’s not big for the show, I wonder how some of his game will transfer. The shot is clear, but he does a lot of puck protection relying on his body to create space. Like a jagr or forsberg but he’s not as big as them. Just my two cents in watching him.
- neem55

Zadina is pretty naturally strong, I’ve seen him protect the puck just fine against similarly sized and bigger defenders in the Q. And it’s not like he relies solely on board play to create offense either. The guy is just so good at everything offensively. He can shoot as well as any prospect. He’s a really good playmaker and can dangle with the puck. He plays well away from the puck and does a good job of getting open for shots. I have yet to see him look afraid to take a hit, he’s willing to throw a hit too and plays in the dirty areas. Can score/pass off the rush and the cycle.

Do you see Canucks taking either player they listed for us?
- VANTEL

? What? The listed Bouchard at 7. Dobson is 6 and Hughes is 8. I think they would select one of them

Foudy is getting hyped because of his numbers after the TDL when he finally got more ice time. His numbers were well above PPG with increased ice time.
- Nucker101

Canucksarmy has him at 80th!

Liam Foudy is another player who benefited from the CHL’s trade deadline, in this because it afforded him a lot more opportunity when his London Knights became sellers. As a result, he saw a huge spike in his offence in the second half of the season. Foudy is a terrific skater and can speed past opponents with ease. However, the dichotomy of the two halves of his season did reveal that he struggles in an energy role, and over the course of his whole season he was consistently scored on more than his line scored.

As I said, I'd pluck him somewhere in the 40s. Deemed a fringe middle 6 player if he is able to score in the NHL.

Writing players off after a single playoff run is hilarious. He put up 7 in 15.

I guess Matthews is trash too. 7 points in 13 career playoff games. McDavid only managed 9 in 13 games. Laine had 5 goals in 17 games.

Those guys suck too.
- Lindenis#1

I watched both. Matthews faced tough opposition and double teams night after night. Ehlers was too soft to score on teams second pairing dmen. You’re right, he’s young and he could very well dominate his next playoff showing. But I watched most of he peg games, he just couldn’t handle it at all.

? What? The listed Bouchard at 7. Dobson is 6 and Hughes is 8. I think they would select one of them
- CanuckDon

Or if the teams in front of us decide to go nuts and take all the Dmen we take Wahlstrom

Ya, he won the combine
- CanuckDon

There's a story I think from Marek about how agents prepare players for the combine, and its generally based off of Theo Peckham.

I guess Peckham was pegged as a 7th rounder/undrafted player going into the combine, but then he lifted a bunch and threw up violently after the VO2 right in front of the scouts. I guess the scouts couldn't hide their boners over that level of "work ethic" and Edmonton took him in the 3rd round. I guess for a few years after that there were tons of late round picks managing to make themselves puke after the VO2 or the Wingate to buy draft stock.

There was another story from someone where the agent has the players basically do nothing but the combine exercises from the end of their season to the combine so they show extra well and raise their draft stock.

Canucksarmy has him at 80th!


As I said, I'd pluck him somewhere in the 40s. Deemed a fringe middle 6 player if he is able to score in the NHL.
- manvanfan

I honestly have yet to look at CA’s list. 80th for him is more outlandish than 28th lol

He doesn’t have the same body type. What hell “probably” put on is just speculation. I see no reason to think he’ll skate at much more than 200-205 like most 6’ NHLers.
- neem55

Yes, 10-13lbs would put him around 200-205.

I watched both. Matthews faced tough opposition and double teams night after night. Ehlers was too soft to score on teams second pairing dmen. You’re right, he’s young and he could very well dominate his next playoff showing. But I watched most of he peg games, he just couldn’t handle it at all.
- neem55

Ehlers is a perimeter player. Not usually too helpful during the playoffs. Still did alright.

Zadina is pretty naturally strong, I’ve seen him protect the puck just fine against similarly sized and bigger defenders in the Q. And it’s not like he relies solely on board play to create offense either. The guy is just so good at everything offensively. He can shoot as well as any prospect. He’s a really good playmaker and can dangle with the puck. He plays well away from the puck and does a good job of getting open for shots. I have yet to see him look afraid to take a hit, he’s willing to throw a hit too and plays in the dirty areas. Can score/pass off the rush and the cycle.
- Nucker101

Like I said, I don’t see the puck protection working for him and he does it a lot, he’s not in the Q anymore. Like I said, that’s my two cents. Great player in terms of shot, hands. Above average passer too.

I watched both. Matthews faced tough opposition and double teams night after night. Ehlers was too soft to score on teams second pairing dmen. You’re right, he’s young and he could very well dominate his next playoff showing. But I watched most of he peg games, he just couldn’t handle it at all.
- neem55

Lots of players have a poop run or two through the playoffs when they're getting started. Only Peter Chiarelli is the kind of guy who overreacts to that.

Are you Peter Chiarelli?

Like I said, I don’t see the puck protection working for him and he does it a lot, he’s not in the Q anymore. Like I said, that’s my two cents. Great player in terms of shot, hands. Above average passer too.
- neem55

Yeah, fair enough.

Lots of players have a poop run or two through the playoffs when they're getting started. Only Peter Chiarelli is the kind of guy who overreacts to that.

Are you Peter Chiarelli?
- Lindenis#1

PSA: "Don't be a Peter Chiarelli"

Yeah, fair enough.
- Nucker101

My only point is I can see why a team would value 50 points, 150 hits and toughness over 70 points 30-40 goals in terms of potential. Both great players and game changers.

Yes, 10-13lbs would put him around 200-205.
- Lindenis#1

He's 197 right now..... he'll play at closer to 205 to 210

I honestly have yet to look at CA’s list. 80th for him is more outlandish than 28th lol
- Nucker101

CA list is somewhat really (frank)en baffling.

Denisenko on Bob's list has might slightly confused as well. Less then a PPG in a Russian JR league. If scouts think he is going to become Kuznetsov or Kucherov. Both of them were well above a ppg in the russian JR league.

My only point is I can see why a team would value 50 points, 150 hits and toughness over 70 points 30-40 goals in terms of potential. Both great players and game changers.
- neem55

If the 60/70 point player wasn’t as good of a goal scorer with legit 30-40 goal potential and was soft as butter or skinny/small then it makes sense to me on some level.

Otherwise I take the potential 30-40 goals per year from the 200+ lbs player

CA list is somewhat really (frank)en baffling.

Denisenko on Bob's list has might slightly confused as well. Less then a PPG in a Russian JR league. If scouts think he is going to become Kuznetsov or Kucherov. Both of them were well above a ppg in the russian JR league.
- manvanfan

Denisenko is definitely a polarizing prospect and it goes beyond just the “Russian Factor” too.

My only point is I can see why a team would value 50 points, 150 hits and toughness over 70 points 30-40 goals in terms of potential. Both great players and game changers.
- neem55

Take the goal scorer over the power forward. As we've seen with JV those guys can take a while to mature and you can probably trade for them on the cheap if you're opportunistic vs having to draft them

I honestly have yet to look at CA’s list. 80th for him is more outlandish than 28th lol
- Nucker101

CA tends to generally not care for "safe" picks where teams are guaranteed a player, regardless of whether thats a 4th liner or not, when some places do put a lot of value in the low ceiling, high floor.