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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:20 PM ET
He’s still a top prospect, but there’s no way in hell he’s above Zadina for me
- Nucker101

Sure, I’ll but that. But it’s apples and oranges. Ehlers or m.tkachuk. Thing is:where was ehlers in the playoffs? I like Zadina more too, just food for thought
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:20 PM ET
I think Bob needs to get to the rink more often
- VANTEL

It’s a list of NHL scouts rankings (10 teams) Bob has zero input. Certainly the most reliable list out there
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:20 PM ET
Sure, I’ll but that. But it’s apples and oranges. Ehlers or m.tkachuk. Thing is:where was ehlers in the playoffs? I like Zadina more too, just food for thought
- neem55

Zadina is not Ehlers lol

He has skill and a nice shot, but he relies less on speed/skill than Ehlers does. He’s a versatile player, he can cycle the puck and protect the puck with his frame.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:21 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/kotkaniemi-surges-into-top-five-of-tsn-draft-ranking-1.1115400

Bobslist is out. Interesting as always but no real surprises other than Tkachuk at 3

- CanuckDon

Liam Foudy at 29 is a little high for me. More in the 40s.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:22 PM ET
why?

i don't care for Veleno either but Hayton is generic brand vanilla-like spread.

- Lindenis#1


The Dobson of centers...
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:22 PM ET
Zadina is not Ehlers lol
- Nucker101

Love Zadina 😍😍
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:22 PM ET
He’s still a top prospect, but there’s no way in hell he’s above Zadina for me
- Nucker101


I'm shocked Bob said two scouts had him ranked 7th and 9th
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
Liam Foudy at 29 is a little high for me. More in the 40s.
- manvanfan

Agreed. Do teams really care that he is strong? Lol
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:23 PM ET
He just sends out an email to his scouting buddies and they all send him their lists. Then he just averages out the rankings and he’s done his work until free agency.

It’s a good list to see how the players are thought of by teams’ scouts.

If Berggren is there for the Canucks 2nd round pick...I’m gonna lose my damn mind if they pass on him.

- Nucker101


One of my favourite draft moments from Bob was when someone went hella off the board a couple years ago in the first round.

"So so and was ranked.... ah there it is. 63rd overall in our pre-draft report"

And then one time when Detroit picked some kid on day 2 and Bob was like "I literally have nothing to report on this kid. But hey, Detroit!"
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
Sure, I’ll but that. But it’s apples and oranges. Ehlers or m.tkachuk. Thing is:where was ehlers in the playoffs? I like Zadina more too, just food for thought
- neem55


Creating chances and not scoring.

Where was M Tkachuk in the playoffs? Oh, not in them.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
One of my favourite draft moments from Bob was when someone went hella off the board a couple years ago in the first round.

"So so and was ranked.... ah there it is. 63rd overall in our pre-draft report"

And then one time when Detroit picked some kid on day 2 and Bob was like "I literally have nothing to report on this kid. But hey, Detroit!"

- Lindenis#1

at least he’s straight up about it, it’s not like he pretends to be a draft expert. Respect.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
Zadina is not Ehlers lol
- Nucker101

He’s a different type, sure. But he’s not a gritty player. It’s yet to be seen how he’ll react to getting crushed, as he’s big for the Q. He’s not big for the show, I wonder how some of his game will transfer. The shot is clear, but he does a lot of puck protection relying on his body to create space. Like a jagr or forsberg but he’s not as big as them. Just my two cents in watching him.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
Agreed. Do teams really care that he is strong? Lol
- CanuckDon


Is he that kid who benched a zillion or whatever at the combine and did a bunch of pull ups?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
It’s a list of NHL scouts rankings (10 teams) Bob has zero input. Certainly the most reliable list out there
- CanuckDon



Do you see Canucks taking either player they listed for us?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 18 @ 1:25 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/kotkaniemi-surges-into-top-five-of-tsn-draft-ranking-1.1115400

Bobslist is out. Interesting as always but no real surprises other than Tkachuk at 3

- CanuckDon

We're gonna get a real good player
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:26 PM ET
He’s a different type, sure. But he’s not a gritty player. It’s yet to be seen how he’ll react to getting crushed, as he’s big for the Q. He’s not big for the show, I wonder how some of his game will transfer. The shot is clear, but he does a lot of puck protection relying on his body to create space. Like a jagr or forsberg but he’s not as big as them. Just my two cents in watching him.
- neem55


Which Forsberg? The one that is 6ft or the one that is 6'1"?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
Creating chances and not scoring.

Where was M Tkachuk in the playoffs? Oh, not in them.

- Lindenis#1

are you really saying m.tkachuk hasn’t been a effective player for Calgary right now?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
Agreed. Do teams really care that he is strong? Lol
- CanuckDon

To me he is just this years Alex Formenton. Taken 47th last season. Similar stats too. Same type of player. Fast. Formenton had a good season this year at a ppg. Most of the players that had better draft years then him had better d+1 seasons too.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
We're gonna get a real good player
- NorthNuck


We better after going through that season. Outside of Boeser and the Sedins last week farewell tour, it was incredibly boring.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:28 PM ET
are you really saying m.tkachuk hasn’t been a effective player for Calgary right now?
- neem55


Are you actually trying to say Ehlers hasn't been incredibly effective in Winnipeg right now?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 1:28 PM ET
To me he is just this years Alex Formenton. Taken 47th last season. Similar stats too. Same type of player. Fast. Formenton had a good season this year at a ppg. Most of the players that had better draft years then him had better d+1 seasons too.
- manvanfan

Foudy is getting hyped because of his numbers after the TDL when he finally got more ice time. His numbers were well above PPG with increased ice time.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
Which Forsberg? The one that is 6ft or the one that is 6'1"?
- Lindenis#1

Peter. He’s a similar height, but Peter forsberg was built like a brick poophouse from the waste down. I just think Zadina will have to change his strategies a bit, but phenomenal player.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
We better after going through that season. Outside of Boeser and the Sedins last week farewell tour, it was incredibly boring.
- Nucker101


The amount of goodwill and happy paint that the Farewell Tour put on the season can't be understated. A lot of people are still on a high about it when thinking of the team and somehow the year wasn't as big a disaster in a lot of minds as it was.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:29 PM ET
One of my favourite draft moments from Bob was when someone went hella off the board a couple years ago in the first round.

"So so and was ranked.... ah there it is. 63rd overall in our pre-draft report"

And then one time when Detroit picked some kid on day 2 and Bob was like "I literally have nothing to report on this kid. But hey, Detroit!"

- Lindenis#1

Mark Jankowski?

Central scouting had him ranked at 43.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:30 PM ET
Are you actually trying to say Ehlers hasn't been incredibly effective in Winnipeg right now?
- Lindenis#1

In the playoffs, yes that’s exactly what I’m saying because it’s reality.
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