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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:59 PM ET
Roles eyes hard.
- boonerbuck

satire
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:02 PM ET
Currently we have Tanev Edler OJ Gudbrandson .

We don't have a second line

End of discussion IMO

- VANTEL

lol correct. With that D in place for next season there is nothing more to discuss.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:05 PM ET
lol correct. With that D in place for next season there is nothing more to discuss.
- LordHumungous

Whose your second line?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
Henrik said it took him 5 years to feel comfortable
- VANTEL

It took him too long, most good centres make an impact quickly. If you look back over the past ten years and the good centres taken they have personal success quickly but team success takes some time.

Stamkos 51 goals second year.
Tavares 67 points second year 81 third year.
Even Matt Duchene has 67 points his second year.
Seguin 67 points second year.
MacKinnon 63 points his first year.
Barkov 59 points third year.
Eichel 56 points first year.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:08 PM ET
Whose your second line?
- VANTEL

We'll know mid August
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:13 PM ET
Nothing exciting happened I see while I slept the night away. I see Donna picked up her pom-poms again
- LeftCoaster

I definitely have Pom poms for our prospects. Certainly not our horrific team. I’m already preparing for the 2019 draft 😳
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:14 PM ET
I definitely have Pom poms for our prospects. Certainly not our horrific team. I’m already preparing for the 2019 draft 😳
- CanuckDon

Other than Pettersson our prospect pool is much like every other bottom feeding team. IMO anyways.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:15 PM ET
It took him too long, most good centres make an impact quickly. If you look back over the past ten years and the good centres taken they have personal success quickly but team success takes some time.

Stamkos 51 goals second year.
Tavares 67 points second year 81 third year.
Even Matt Duchene has 67 points his second year.
Seguin 67 points second year.
MacKinnon 63 points his first year.
Barkov 59 points third year.
Eichel 56 points first year.

- LeftCoaster

Those guys were more physically mature than Pettersson And Sedin though. They also didn’t have to get used to the smaller ice and the NA game
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:16 PM ET
Whose your second line?
- VANTEL

With Boeser-Horvat-+ on the first line the second line is up for grabs. Time for some to step up. Maybe LE-Sutter-baertchi? Or Benning can bring in some help if he is that concerned about the Sedins lost points. We need to build from the goaltender out IMO. Gonna take awhile unless Benning has the entire roulette table covered lol. I'm not overly concerned about the second line at this point. We have to start filling needs and that to me is goalie and D first. Just my opinion.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
Those guys were more physically mature than Pettersson And Sedin though. They also didn’t have to get used to the smaller ice and the NA game
- CanuckDon

I think by his second year he'll have an impact, he's that good. Despite his light weight.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:17 PM ET
Other than Pettersson our prospect pool is much like every other bottom feeding team. IMO anyways.
- LeftCoaster

Button ranks us number one

I think Pettersson, Gadj, Lind, Juolevi, Lockwood, Gaudette, demko and brisbois all have solid chances of an NHL career. Then you have your unknowns like DiPietro, Palmu, Rathbone, mcewan and Jasek. After our first three picks this draft we should be solidly stocked
Edit. Lockwood has to prove he can stay healthy first
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:18 PM ET
I think by his second year he'll have an impact, he's that good. Despite his light weight.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed, although I think produces on the PP right away
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:22 PM ET
Other than Pettersson our prospect pool is much like every other bottom feeding team. IMO anyways.
- LeftCoaster

It takes time to build through the draft. If Jim trades the 7th pick he should be fired. He is supposed to be a draft savant but he keeps giving them away. I won’t be impressed if he sells it. Pettersson is no different than any other prospect either.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:23 PM ET
With Boeser-Horvat-+ on the first line the second line is up for grabs. Time for some to step up. Maybe LE-Sutter-baertchi? Or Benning can bring in some help if he is that concerned about the Sedins lost points. We need to build from the goaltender out IMO. Gonna take awhile unless Benning has the entire roulette table covered lol. I'm not overly concerned about the second line at this point. We have to start filling needs and that to me is goalie and D first. Just my opinion.
- LordHumungous

That is what I figured third line skill playing above their skill level. That always works
out so well
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:25 PM ET
It takes time to build through the draft. If Jim trades the 7th pick he should be fired. He is supposed to be a draft savant but he keeps giving them away. I won’t be impressed if he sells it. Pettersson is no different than any other prospect either.
- thundachunk

What do you mean Pettersson is no different than any other prospect? Pettersson and Cassels are the same?
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:34 PM ET
Button ranks us number one

I think Pettersson, Gadj, Lind, Juolevi, Lockwood, Gaudette, demko and brisbois all have solid chances of an NHL career. Then you have your unknowns like DiPietro, Palmu, Rathbone, mcewan and Jasek. After our first three picks this draft we should be solidly stocked
Edit. Lockwood has to prove he can stay healthy first

- CanuckDon


Beyond Pettersson, if 3 of those 7 made legit careers and not just roster filler careers it'd be a heck of a job well done. Prospects fail. A lot. You can have a deep pool and get 2 players. Some teams have shallow ass pools and get 3-4 players.

Go look at any redraft article. Its always a nice sobering punch in the nads that most of your prospects will fail and your first rounder will probably just be middle roster player.

This team isn't stacked until there is something resembling a future blueline and there are enough other prospects in the pipeline than you're not banking on every prospect hitting to build your roster. That's another 2 drafts if they stocked picks.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:37 PM ET
Beyond Pettersson, if 3 of those 7 made legit careers and not just roster filler careers it'd be a heck of a job well done. Prospects fail. A lot. You can have a deep pool and get 2 players. Some teams have shallow ass pools and get 3-4 players.

Go look at any redraft article. Its always a nice sobering punch in the nads that most of your prospects will fail and your first rounder will probably just be middle roster player.

This team isn't stacked until there is something resembling a future blueline and there are enough other prospects in the pipeline than you're not banking on every prospect hitting to build your roster. That's another 2 drafts if they stocked picks.

- Lindenis#1

I didn’t specify what kind of career they would have just that I think they will play in the NHL. To soon to know what their production will be. Also, I’m aware prospects fail as I’ve been following this team for decades. We have an above average prospect pool is all in saying.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:39 PM ET
What do you mean Pettersson is no different than any other prospect? Pettersson and Cassels are the same?
- CanuckDon

They are both prospects.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 17 @ 10:43 PM ET
It takes time to build through the draft. If Jim trades the 7th pick he should be fired. He is supposed to be a draft savant but he keeps giving them away. I won’t be impressed if he sells it. Pettersson is no different than any other prospect either.
- thundachunk


Couldn’t disagree more. Based on our probable options, trading the pick is my preference. 7th pick in this draft is an awful value spot IMO. At this point I’m just hoping it falls in our favor (someone unexpectedly falls) or another team loves a particular kid & makes us an offer.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 17 @ 10:46 PM ET
Beyond Pettersson, if 3 of those 7 made legit careers and not just roster filler careers it'd be a heck of a job well done. Prospects fail. A lot. You can have a deep pool and get 2 players. Some teams have shallow ass pools and get 3-4 players.

Go look at any redraft article. Its always a nice sobering punch in the nads that most of your prospects will fail and your first rounder will probably just be middle roster player.

This team isn't stacked until there is something resembling a future blueline and there are enough other prospects in the pipeline than you're not banking on every prospect hitting to build your roster. That's another 2 drafts if they stocked picks.

- Lindenis#1

Sedin just retired, its only year 1 of the rebuild....
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
Couldn’t disagree more. Based on our probable options, trading the pick is my preference. 7th pick in this draft is an awful value spot IMO. At this point I’m just hoping it falls in our favor (someone unexpectedly falls) or another team loves a particular kid & makes us an offer.
- DrChristianTroy


Trading the 7th shows to me they aren't serious about a rebuild and still want to cut corners to speed up the process.

This management team hasn't proven an ability to scout pro level players. There is one good thing this management team can do though, draft. So do it. Stay on point. Stay on message. I think they'd find they've save themselves a lot of grief in this market if they practiced what they preached.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
Sedin just retired, its only year 1 of the rebuild....
- carsonagenic


Its year 3.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 17 @ 10:47 PM ET
They are both prospects.
- thundachunk

Very true
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:48 PM ET
I didn’t specify what kind of career they would have just that I think they will play in the NHL. To soon to know what their production will be. Also, I’m aware prospects fail as I’ve been following this team for decades. We have an above average prospect pool is all in saying.
- CanuckDon


beyond Pettersson, its a bunch of #7 forwards, Finnish Jeff Petry, 3 bottom pairing defenders and a starting goaltender.

Just about every team in the league can boast that.

This team needs a couple plump drafts to really make something for themselves. 2017 looks good. Before that, not so much.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
Sedin just retired, its only year 1 of the rebuild....
- carsonagenic

Trevor said 2 days ago it began when they drafted Horvat
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