yeah, pretty much

Still not what the Habs need, but is there anything else available?
- stinger67

A rebuild

Minus Pacioretty, plus O'Reilly the Habs are still in the basement... I'd much rather trade Pacioretty for a 1st round pick and draft Hayton
- obie

But Hayton is not on the Habs lineup next season, so the eternal #1 centre quest is still unaccomplished. There is a veteran centre coming in soon, but how and who is the question. Bergevin is not rebuilding, he's improvising, and something big is coming up, me thinks.

yeah, pretty much

Still not what the Habs need, but is there anything else available?
- stinger67

Options are very thin. Carter in LA, not sure he's available. Bjugstad? Not a #1. RNH is staying in EDM...

Not just here.... a lot of places are talking Tkachuk over Zadina... not sure what changed drastically.
- mlindsay

The Combine results.

But Hayton is not on the Habs lineup next season, so the eternal #1 centre quest is still unaccomplished. There is a veteran centre coming in soon, but how and who is the question. Bergevin is not rebuilding, he's improvising, and something big is coming up, me thinks.
- Not_Yan

Oh you're absolutely right, obviously Bergevin is not the man who will do what needs to be done... So your Pacioretty for O'Reilly proposal is far more likely to go down than my Pacioretty for a 1st is... But there's no doubt in my mind that this thing needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt

Habs saving cap space again with this trade. Looks like Capspace will be even more buffed next season.

Not just here.... a lot of places are talking Tkachuk over Zadina... not sure what changed drastically.
- mlindsay

He has CHaracter! Bergevin's excellent evaluation of CHaracter led to the current team we have getting 3/4 of it called out for a lack of effort through last season. If he picks Tkachuk over Zadina I'm done watching until Mr. Character is gone and this team rebuilds. This whole physical dominance thing and lack of big goal numbers from Tkachuk screams bust.

Kotkaniemi is 8 months younger than Zadina and 10 months younger than Tkatchuk (big difference at that age). Even with that age gap he's already a top 5 on many lists.

Kotkaniemi is 8 months younger than Zadina and 10 months younger than Tkatchuk (big difference at that age). Even with that age gap he's already a top 5 on many lists.
- J-P

Barrett Hayton will be the best C to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

But Hayton is not on the Habs lineup next season, so the eternal #1 centre quest is still unaccomplished. There is a veteran centre coming in soon, but how and who is the question. Bergevin is not rebuilding, he's improvising, and something big is coming up, me thinks.
- Not_Yan

You’re missing the point bud. The big reason MB gets so much shyte (and rightfully so) is because he’s not running things correctly. The Habs need a full scale REBUILD. They shouldn’t retool, they’re no where near competing or relevancy even with a healthy Price backpacking. Everything needs to be properly torn down and start from scratch.

Another trade is coming. The next #1 centre won’t be Kotkaniemi or any drafted guy as they’re not NHL-ready yet. They are on Tavares (2% chance), or on the verge of getting O’Reilly or Carter for Pacioretty.

That’s the optimistic/naive version.
- Not_Yan

Montreal is guaranteed to not get Tavares, even if he hits UFA on July 1. He's a humble, quiet guy- no chance he goes into this tire fire of a situation. He only promises himself pain by doing so- should he sign for big money in Montreal, he will hear every single day about how much pressure is on him, and once Montreal misses the playoffs or loses in Round 1, he'll get destroyed by the fans and media. Who needs that? He'll have plenty of suitors that don't come with that negative atmosphere.

Tl;dr: even 2% chance for Tavares signing in MTL is too high.

You’re missing the point bud. The big reason MB gets so much shyte (and rightfully so) is because he’s not running things correctly. The Habs need a full scale REBUILD. They shouldn’t retool, they’re no where near competing or relevancy even with a healthy Price backpacking. Everything needs to be properly torn down and start from scratch.
- FinnGod

He knows the point, he also understands what Bergevin is more likely to do and unfortunately that kind of makes him right until there's someone else at the helm

So Bergevin trades a soft on the wall, won't play defense Center/Winger for a high energy player who blocks shots, who goes to the dirty areas and is already working on making himself a better player by studying the playing habits of some of the best players who play the Center position and you people are pissed? I think you picked up a guy who you will enjoy watching because of how hard he will work. He will be a Brad Marchand type of player that will annoy the opposition on a nightly basis.
- macman9

This team needs (frank)ing talent. No need is greater. (frank) high energy, (frank) the corners. They need talent. They have virtually none.

My Tavares watch ranking is currently

St. Louis Blues 35%
San Jose Sharks 30%
New Jersey Devils 20%
New York Rangers 10%
Detroit Red Wings 5%
- mr.peanut

He'd be leaving at least $15M on the table if he leaves the Islanders (extra year, plus Isles have most cap space in the NHL right now at $28M, and that's before the cap rises). He's also a notoriously loyal guy who likes Long Island and likes NYC. There's always a chance, but now with some credible management, I don't think he's leaving the Islanders.

Real odds (from an Islanders fan who follows the situation):

NYI 75-80% (there's always the chance this late that some team blows him away in the listening period).
Other 20-25%.

Of the other options:

Vegas 40%
New Jersey 20%
San Jose 20%
St. Louis 15%
Other 5% (MTL, BUF, TOR, LAK, etc.).

This team needs (frank)ing talent. No need is greater. (frank) high energy, (frank) the corners. They need talent. They have virtually none.
- DoubleDown

Exactly

I feel that the difference is that there really is no stability with the Islanders. No real home rink, no number 1 goalie and terrible defense. Tampa just came off a SCF appearance the year before.

It's hard to rule them out completely, but I believe a deal could have been made already.
- mr.peanut

Why are people still saying there's no home rink? They are at Barclays until the 2021-22 season, when their arena in Belmont on Long Island will be ready. This is in the bag already. Plus, with Lou Lamoriello firing the incompetents, you can't argue there's no stability anymore.

They're one trade away from having a goalie, and it's not like other NHL teams don't have on-ice holes to fill.

The deal is waiting on the final cap number; he wants a certain % of the cap, so once that's announced, there could be a signing. It could also be that he's waited this long and just wants to see what's out there (scary for Isles fans, but have to have confidence that he hasn't been lying for years about wanting to stay).

There it is

Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL

Two-year contract ($3.15 million AAV) for Max Domi.

DETAILS ➡️ https://goha.bs/2MwVO8C #GoHabsGo

2 year deal for just over 6

There it is

Canadiens Montréal @CanadiensMTL

Two-year contract ($3.15 million AAV) for Max Domi.

DETAILS ➡️ https://goha.bs/2MwVO8C #GoHabsGo
- stinger67

So MB still has a chance to really overpay for this guy in 2 years?? Lol

He never learns.

So MB still has a chance to really overpay for this guy in 2 years?? Lol

He never learns.
- Snots33_77

With any luck Bergevin won't be there by the time this contract expires

Cap space got a well deserved raise

With any luck Bergevin won't be there by the time this contract expires
- obie

The players attitude should be through the roof now that they’ve added more cap space!!!

You know he’s just saving that for a couple more putrid rancid contracts. Statsny and Johnson...

He'd be leaving at least $15M on the table if he leaves the Islanders (extra year, plus Isles have most cap space in the NHL right now at $28M, and that's before the cap rises). He's also a notoriously loyal guy who likes Long Island and likes NYC. There's always a chance, but now with some credible management, I don't think he's leaving the Islanders.

Real odds (from an Islanders fan who follows the situation):

NYI 75-80% (there's always the chance this late that some team blows him away in the listening period).
Other 20-25%.

Of the other options:

Vegas 40%
New Jersey 20%
San Jose 20%
St. Louis 15%
Other 5% (MTL, BUF, TOR, LAK, etc.).
- isles10289

Why are people still saying there's no home rink? They are at Barclays until the 2021-22 season, when their arena in Belmont on Long Island will be ready. This is in the bag already. Plus, with Lou Lamoriello firing the incompetents, you can't argue there's no stability anymore.

They're one trade away from having a goalie, and it's not like other NHL teams don't have on-ice holes to fill.

The deal is waiting on the final cap number; he wants a certain % of the cap, so once that's announced, there could be a signing. It could also be that he's waited this long and just wants to see what's out there (scary for Isles fans, but have to have confidence that he hasn't been lying for years about wanting to stay).
- isles10289

He's been there since 2009 and they've built Richard around him, he shouldn't feel obligated to show loyalty to a team that has wasted years of his career.

The arena situation is bush league. Half the games in brooklyn and half in nassau and hope the new one is ready in time.

Isn't having the most cap space but waiting for the precentage kind of weird to you? I mean $10,000,000 × 8 years should get it done, but clearly there are more issues.

In the end, it would suck to see the isles get kicked in tne teeth and see him walk because the fanbase deserves better, though we know isles management up until a week ago has been a circus for 20 years now and if he goes elsewhere it's all on them.

Pretty good trade actually. Galchenyuk is a turnover machine, and he’s really soft on the boards. Very talented but that’s not enough. Domi is very talented but also brings a solid defensive game and he’s rugged not afraid to get his hands dirty. Gonna thrive in a hockey town like Montreal
- k1234

Kind of the way I'm looking at it too. Galchenyuk just never got to where he should.