I feel that the difference is that there really is no stability with the Islanders. No real home rink, no number 1 goalie and terrible defense. Tampa just came off a SCF appearance the year before.

It's hard to rule them out completely, but I believe a deal could have been made already.
- mr.peanut

Very true

I feel that the difference is that there really is no stability with the Islanders. No real home rink, no number 1 goalie and terrible defense. Tampa just came off a SCF appearance the year before.

It's hard to rule them out completely, but I believe a deal could have been made already.
- mr.peanut

Lamoriello would not have taken on the challenge, if he wasn't confident about signing Tavares.

Another trade is coming. The next #1 centre won’t be Kotkaniemi or any drafted guy as they’re not NHL-ready yet. They are on Tavares (2% chance), or on the verge of getting O’Reilly or Carter for Pacioretty.

That’s the optimistic/naive version.
- Not_Yan

A Pacioretty for O'Reilly swap would only weaken the offense more

This trade may be worse than the Sergachev one, I think Hab fans are in for a lot more than just 1 more long season
- obie

I don't think so. At least they didn't trade a player playing a position they really need (LHD) for a player playing a position they have plenty (LW)...

Dobson
- mr.peanut

I think he'll pick Kotkaniemi at 3 tbh....

I also fear he's the most overrated player due to the lack of really good centres in this draft so this would be the riskiest pick IMO...

I feel that the difference is that there really is no stability with the Islanders. No real home rink, no number 1 goalie and terrible defense. Tampa just came off a SCF appearance the year before.

It's hard to rule them out completely, but I believe a deal could have been made already.
- mr.peanut

Since when did you start making intelligent comments like that?

I think he'll pick Kotkaniemi at 3 tbh....

I also fear he's the most overrated player due to the lack of really good centres in this draft so this would be the riskiest pick IMO...
- BashCH

If I had to guess, I'd say he's gonna go with Tkachuk

Nice. Another winger.

Nice. Another winger.
- AdamFrench

Chicken wings?

I wonder how Ty is taking the news this morning.

If I had to guess, I'd say he's gonna go with Tkachuk
- obie

He's probably the player that fits the Bergevin "attitude" description the most. Plus he's american so Timmins is gonna have a boner while calling his name.

I wouldn't mind the pick, I think the package he brings is pretty hard to find. He's not a goal scorer though and Montreal are really lacking those.

Another trade is coming. The next #1 centre won’t be Kotkaniemi or any drafted guy as they’re not NHL-ready yet. They are on Tavares (2% chance), or on the verge of getting O’Reilly or Carter for Pacioretty.

That’s the optimistic/naive version.
- Not_Yan

My god I hope the Sabres don't deal ROR for patches.

A Pacioretty for O'Reilly swap would only weaken the offense more
- obie

How so? O'Reilly just got 61 pts, at 27 years old, and he's behind Jack Eichel in the depth chart. Both Buffalo and Montreal had mediocre seasons and one player still performed well while the other collapsed with his team - while being the captain.

He's probably the player that fits the Bergevin "attitude" description the most. Plus he's american so Timmins is gonna have a boner while calling his name.

I wouldn't mind the pick, I think the package he brings is pretty hard to find. He's not a goal scorer though and Montreal are really lacking those.
- BashCH

I get the grit and character and all that and I don't hate Max Domi by any means, he has the tools to become a Gallagher type player but at some point you have to start adding skill, Galchenyuk was probably the most skilled player on the team! It all started coming undone when he tried to short change Radulov! And as far as picking Tkachuk 3rd, I'd rather he trades the pick but then again with his track record when it comes to trades it almost feels like a lose lose situation

And you can eliminate the idea of drafting Tkatchuk with Domi coming in. The pick will be traded or used on a D.
- Not_Yan

What did I miss? why is Zadina no longer even talked about?

How so? O'Reilly just got 61 pts, at 27 years old, and he's behind Jack Eichel in the depth chart. Both Buffalo and Montreal had mediocre seasons and one player still performed well while the other collapsed with his team - while being the captain.
- Not_Yan

You don't think Pacioretty is a better offensive player than O'Reilly?

So...expect a contract extension for Domi maybe as soon as this morning

So...expect a contract extension for Domi maybe as soon as this morning
- stinger67

5 years at 3.75 would be nice

You don't think Pacioretty is a better offensive player than O'Reilly?
- obie

Better sniper, but O'Reilly is more complete and - IMHO - the best #1-ish centre that could be available at a decent price.

What did I miss? why is Zadina no longer even talked about?
- mlindsay

Brandon had an article lately about his pick prediction being Tkatchuk

Better sniper, but O'Reilly is more complete and - IMHO - the best #1-ish centre that could be available at a decent price.
- Not_Yan

Minus Pacioretty, plus O'Reilly the Habs are still in the basement... I'd much rather trade Pacioretty for a 1st round pick and draft Hayton

Good write up and break down of the players!

Better sniper, but O'Reilly is more complete and - IMHO - the best #1-ish centre that could be available at a decent price.
- Not_Yan

yeah, pretty much

Still not what the Habs need, but is there anything else available?

5 years at 3.75 would be nice
- obie

Bridge contract apparently. 95% done

Bergevin just never learns.

Brandon had an article lately about his pick prediction being Tkatchuk
- Not_Yan

Not just here.... a lot of places are talking Tkachuk over Zadina... not sure what changed drastically.