I agree.
And as someone that grew up watching Harold Ballard (frank) it all up in Toronto, my condolences.


- .HOHO.

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- muffin_man

at least ottawa has talent on the roster and prospects in the system.....bergevin has basically traded all of that away for you guys

at least ottawa has talent on the roster and prospects in the system.....bergevin has basically traded all of that away for you guys
- sensarmy_11

Yup

And I'm more convinced than ever now that he will draft Tkachuk

at least ottawa has talent on the roster and prospects in the system.....bergevin has basically traded all of that away for you guys
- sensarmy_11

To a point going to have to agree. Once Montreal trades Pacs and hopefully gets some worthwhile assets then they can start a rebuild. Team looks like Ottawa their first year in the league.

No Freekin way
- MLew65

Outsiders view, this is a we will know who won in 2 years deal, they are 23 and 24 respectively, I can see on its face saying the Yotes won this, and they may have, however changes in teams have sparked more then one player in the past, so who knows. Also with the draft, free agency, etc still looming so we don't know who these guys will be surrounded by, so there is that. On its face Yotes, but I will wait to pass judgement here.

if MTL wants a number 1 center....just trade the 3rd overall to OTT for Duchene+ 22nd pick....

I'm stunned!...... Bergevin continues to trade away assets for wingers, when the biggest void on the team is a center. I am not against trading Galchenyuk, MB probably could have added a couple of the 2nd rounders in this years draft plus Chucky to get the center you badly need. MB is ruining this team.
Tavares will not come to Montreal, you can guarantee it!

I'm stunned!...... Bergevin continues to trade away assets for wingers, when the biggest void on the team is a center. I am not against trading Galchenyuk, MB probably could have added a couple of the 2nd rounders in this years draft plus Chucky to get the center you badly need. MB is ruining this team.
Tavares will not come to Montreal, you can guarantee it!

- bluestar

This isn’t NHL 18 you can’t add 2 2nd round picks and expect to get a top C or top D

MB has built this team with no plan. And with such glaring holes/needs that other GMs will fleece him further. MB has painted himself into a corner and has nobody to blame but himself (maybe Molson for enabling him?).

In whatever way we actually do get a top C or top LHD (outside of drafting), we will have to overpay like never before. And with MB’s eye for talent.....we will pay top dollar for 3rd line/3rd pairing talent.

This offseason will be hilarious!

at least ottawa has talent on the roster and prospects in the system.....bergevin has basically traded all of that away for you guys
- sensarmy_11

You're guaranteed to be losing at least one significant piece of that talent very soon if not both. Both of our teams are a joke for different reasons.

This isn’t NHL 18 you can’t add 2 2nd round picks and expect to get a top C or top D
- k1234

then what else could the Habs have packaged togetther with Chucky that will get you that much needed center?, i heard the cupboard is bare in Laval too.

Yup

And I'm more convinced than ever now that he will draft Tkachuk
- obie

It will be Kotkaniemi.

Haha...wow!...I....i mean..wow!

I guess he eventually has to come out on the winning end of one of these trades, right? Maybe Galchenyuk dies 8f a cocaine overdose and Domi becomes a stronger version of Marchand?

I'll say this about Bergevin, he is consistent. He got sat down at the end of the year and told he had to do better, and he said (frank) that, I gotta be me, I'm the best of the worst god dam it. Boom, first (frank)ing trade out of the gate is a stinker. Gotta respect him for that...lol.

Another high draft pick and a firing coming up. So that's good I guess...

It will be Kotkaniemi.
- J-P

Yeah, without evening trading up. Dummy is going to walk up to the podium and take him with the 3 pick.

You're guaranteed to be losing at least one significant piece of that talent very soon if not both. Both of our teams are a joke for different reasons.
- apex123

Ottawa would have to lose Karlsson AND Hoffman, and get nothing of significance back in return, to be remotely close to the on-ice tire fire that exists in Montreal.

there is NO DOUBT that off the ice Ottawa is the biggest tire fire the league has seen in years......but they do have lots of NHL talent and a pretty good group of prospects. clearly there are a ton of holes, but i would take ottawa's roster over montreal's roster (including prospects) ANY DAY.

I honestly believe that, on paper, the habs have the worst roster in the league.....even worse after yesterday.

The sergachev trade doesn’t look great after 1 year but we will have to wait another 3-5 years before we will know for sure. the habs still think Drouin can be a top 6 center what makes you think you know better?
And Galchenyuk’s value wasn’t that high for the reasons I mentioned above. What team would want to trade a top center for him.

I think the biggest problem is a portion of the habs fans like yourself who play too much NHL 18 on PS4 and overvalue their players.
Also, these same fans always rush to judgement and have no patience
- k1234

Yes, one day Drouin might be one of their top 6 centers.

Yes, one day Drouin might be one of their top 6 centers.

- Aetherial

jesus, their top center right now is Paul Byron .

Ottawa would have to lose Karlsson AND Hoffman, and get nothing of significance back in return, to be remotely close to the on-ice tire fire that exists in Montreal.

there is NO DOUBT that off the ice Ottawa is the biggest tire fire the league has seen in years......but they do have lots of NHL talent and a pretty good group of prospects. clearly there are a ton of holes, but i would take ottawa's roster over montreal's roster (including prospects) ANY DAY.

I honestly believe that, on paper, the habs have the worst roster in the league.....even worse after yesterday.
- sensarmy_11

I would not be so quick to say Ottawa is stronger on the ice than Montreal. It seems to me that Price is much more likely to rebound than Anderson. It looks like Ottawa is going to trade Hoffman and probably Karlsson. Weber won't be injured all year.

jesus, their top center right now is Paul Byron .
- sensarmy_11

I would not be so quick to say Ottawa is stronger on the ice than Montreal. It seems to me that Price is much more likely to rebound than Anderson. It looks like Ottawa is going to trade Hoffman and probably Karlsson. Weber won't be injured all year.
- Aetherial

no doubt that the habs have VASTLY superior goaltending......and if price is on his game, he's an X factor and will make the habs competitive no matter how much of a tire fire the rest of their roster is.

that being said, my point was that on paper, the sens have way more talent than the habs do. their NHL roster is a joke, they have no centers, no D, almost no high end prospects. they have a few good wingers and that's about it.....but even then, ottawa has better wingers.

the ONLY place that the habs are better is in goal, but once you get past price, montreal doesn't have much there either.

they have SOOOOOO many holes on their roster, and given how much money they have tied up in a few players, and how few tradable assets they have, i'm not sure how they fix it any time soon.

Ottawa is absolutely a tire fire off the ice, and as long as melnyk owns the team they'll never be a contender, but you can't deny that they have quite a bit of talent at the nhl level, and a pretty good group of prospects.....certainly better than the habs.

Ottawa would have to lose Karlsson AND Hoffman, and get nothing of significance back in return, to be remotely close to the on-ice tire fire that exists in Montreal.

there is NO DOUBT that off the ice Ottawa is the biggest tire fire the league has seen in years......but they do have lots of NHL talent and a pretty good group of prospects. clearly there are a ton of holes, but i would take ottawa's roster over montreal's roster (including prospects) ANY DAY.

I honestly believe that, on paper, the habs have the worst roster in the league.....even worse after yesterday.
- sensarmy_11

Losing both for nothing is a very real possibility, given that your staff rivals ours in incompetence.
We certainly will have one of the worst rosters in the future, but as of right now I don't see how your roster is much if any better than ours. Especially minus one (or both Hoffman and Karlsson). You re better down the middle and a bit better on defense, but montreal has better wingers and better in net if Price bounces back at all. Anyway I digress. We re arguing who has less smelly poop.

no doubt that the habs have VASTLY superior goaltending......and if price is on his game, he's an X factor and will make the habs competitive no matter how much of a tire fire the rest of their roster is.

that being said, my point was that on paper, the sens have way more talent than the habs do. their NHL roster is a joke, they have no centers, no D, almost no high end prospects. they have a few good wingers and that's about it.....but even then, ottawa has better wingers.

the ONLY place that the habs are better is in goal, but once you get past price, montreal doesn't have much there either.

they have SOOOOOO many holes on their roster, and given how much money they have tied up in a few players, and how few tradable assets they have, i'm not sure how they fix it any time soon.

Ottawa is absolutely a tire fire off the ice, and as long as melnyk owns the team they'll never be a contender, but you can't deny that they have quite a bit of talent at the nhl level, and a pretty good group of prospects.....certainly better than the habs.
- sensarmy_11

Weber and Mete are decent D you know...anyway see above.
I agree their prospects are better, given that montreal has very few.

no doubt that the habs have VASTLY superior goaltending......and if price is on his game, he's an X factor and will make the habs competitive no matter how much of a tire fire the rest of their roster is.

that being said, my point was that on paper, the sens have way more talent than the habs do. their NHL roster is a joke, they have no centers, no D, almost no high end prospects. they have a few good wingers and that's about it.....but even then, ottawa has better wingers.

the ONLY place that the habs are better is in goal, but once you get past price, montreal doesn't have much there either.

they have SOOOOOO many holes on their roster, and given how much money they have tied up in a few players, and how few tradable assets they have, i'm not sure how they fix it any time soon.

Ottawa is absolutely a tire fire off the ice, and as long as melnyk owns the team they'll never be a contender, but you can't deny that they have quite a bit of talent at the nhl level, and a pretty good group of prospects.....certainly better than the habs.
- sensarmy_11

yeah, I think you are right. I just think the Habs also badly underperformed last year.

You’re ready to write off Drouin as a center after 1 year where most of the players had a down year? Thank god you’re not the GM. He showed some nice improvement at the end of the year.
Who said Domi is playing center? Habs traded a LW for a LW and my best guess is they will get their center in a Pacioretty trade or they will draft Kotkaniemi.

The draft and free agency haven’t happened yet , we re not even in summer yet so chill out
- k1234

I am 100% ready to write off Drouin at C. Byron was less of a nightmare at center. I think the game that proves he needs to stay on the wing was the Pitts game near the end were he went 2 and 20 in the circle. Pretty sure Alzner could win 2 face-offs if given 22 chances.