k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Now I want to see the Coyotes get Yakupov. The inside fanboy in me has always wondered how both would do if reunited in the NHL. - TheUltimateJet
The idea is interesting but would be one of the softest lines in the NHL
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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He’s still 22 or 23 why are you already writing him off? He’s still got tons of room to grow impossible to say what his ceiling is at this point - k1234
Saying he is a 2nd line winger is not writing him off or a bad thing.
It is being realistic of what Drouin can bring. |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Saying he is a 2nd line winger is not writing him off or a bad thing.
It is being realistic of what Drouin can bring. - Mashadar
I understand that but if you were that great of a talent evaluator you would be working in the NHL. We don’t know what he’s gonna be yet he’s only 22. Let’s let the coaches keep working with him and see what happens. |
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DutchSenators
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Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam Joined: 06.07.2015
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The idea is interesting but would be one of the softest lines in the NHL - k1234
Could be feasible with Stepan in the middle. |
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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Bit of a shock trade. Wondering what the Pens were negotiating for Domi?? |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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I understand that but if you were that great of a talent evaluator you would be working in the NHL. We don’t know what he’s gonna be yet he’s only 22. Let’s let the coaches keep working with him and see what happens. - k1234
Feel free to keep buying the poop MB and Molson are shovign down your throat.
Maybe they can trade for 2 more wingers so we can have 4 wingers playing center... check that. We had Paul Byron playing center for a while last year... only need to convert one more winger.
This team has terrible asset management, playing players out of position and/or in roles they are not suited to play.
If that is what you want, well guess what, that is what you got.
Enjoy your 2nd line winger as your default 1st line center, because your new 3rd line winger is your now default second line center. |
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k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Feel free to keep buying the poop MB and Molson are shovign down your throat.
Maybe they can trade for 2 more wingers so we can have 4 wingers playing center... check that. We had Paul Byron playing center for a while last year... only need to convert one more winger.
This team has terrible asset management, playing players out of position and/or in roles they are not suited to play.
If that is what you want, well guess what, that is what you got.
Enjoy your 2nd line winger as your default 1st line center, because you new 3rd line winger is your now default second line center. - Mashadar
How much value do you think Galchenyuk had? He gives the puck away a ton, he’s a floater. He overthinks the game causing him to constantly make mistakes. He’s soft, cannot win a board battle if his life depended on it.
He’s still young and can improve on all that but obviously the Habs thought it was time to move on.
I think we’re extremely lucky to get a player that’s younger, still very skilled and contributes in a bunch of other ways as well |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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How much value do you think Galchenyuk had? He gives the puck away a ton, he’s a floater. He overthinks the game causing him to constantly make mistakes. He’s soft, cannot win a board battle if his life depended on it.
He’s still young and can improve on all that but obviously the Habs thought it was time to move on.
I think we’re extremely lucky to get a player that’s younger, still very skilled and contributes in a bunch of other ways as well - k1234
Again, this has nothing to do with Galchenyuk or Domi's value as a player, but the needs of the team overall. It is just another example of the terrible asset management by MB. Habs need Centers and D, and they trade one of their only decent trade chips for a 3rd line winger, who will be forced to convert to 2nd line C.
It is Drouin all over again... they just never ever learn.
Trades may be hard, but stupid trades are easy - as MB has shown over and over again.
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k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Again, this has nothing to do with Galchenyuk or Domi's value as a player, but the needs of the team overall. It is just another example of the terrible asset management by MB. Habs need Centers and D, and they trade one of their only decent trade chips for a 3rd line winger, who will be forced to convert to 2nd line C.
It is Drouin all over again... they just never ever learn.
Trades may be hard, but stupid trades are easy - as MB has shown over and over again. - Mashadar
The sergachev trade doesn’t look great after 1 year but we will have to wait another 3-5 years before we will know for sure. the habs still think Drouin can be a top 6 center what makes you think you know better?
And Galchenyuk’s value wasn’t that high for the reasons I mentioned above. What team would want to trade a top center for him.
I think the biggest problem is a portion of the habs fans like yourself who play too much NHL 18 on PS4 and overvalue their players.
Also, these same fans always rush to judgement and have no patience |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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The sergachev trade doesn’t look great after 1 year but we will have to wait another 3-5 years before we will know for sure. the habs still think Drouin can be a top 6 center what makes you think you know better?
And Galchenyuk’s value wasn’t that high for the reasons I mentioned above. What team would want to trade a top center for him.
I think the biggest problem is a portion of the habs fans like yourself who play too much NHL 18 on PS4 and overvalue their players.
Also, these same fans always rush to judgement and have no patience - k1234
Try reading and listening and understanding.
Habs throwing assets at the type of players we don't need, rather than package them (and possibly picks) for the players we do need (or picks to get the players they do need).
Domi does nothing to make the Habs better. That is not a knock agains him, he is just not a player (essentially now relegated to winger) that the Habs need. Drouin is not a player the Habs needed, essentially playing center because no one else is there (even MB believes that).
The Habs are taking side steps, at best, not moving the bar forward.
To look at it in any other way is pure denial.
Also, I am done.
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k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Try reading and listening and understanding.
Habs throwing assets at the type of players we don't need, rather than package them (and possibly picks) for the players we do need (or picks to get the players they do need).
Domi does nothing to make the Habs better. That is not a knock agains him, he is just not a player (essentially now relegated to winger) that the Habs need. Drouin is not a player the Habs needed, essentially playing center because no one else is there (even MB believes that).
The Habs are taking side steps, at best, not moving the bar forward.
To look at it in any other way is pure denial.
Also, I am done. - Mashadar
You’re the one not reading. You actually think the Habs can get a top 6 C or a top D for Galchenyuk? Berg did the best he could do under the circumstances and I think he did pretty well. Let’s be patient he still has assets to work with to get that center.
And you may see the Sergachev trade as bad asset management because you see Drouin as a winger but the Habs think he can play C. I’ll take their hockey opinions over yours |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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You’re the one not reading. You actually think the Habs can get a top 6 C or a top D for Galchenyuk? Berg did the best he could do under the circumstances and I think he did pretty well. Let’s be patient he still has assets to work with to get that center.
And you may see the Sergachev trade as bad asset management because you see Drouin as a winger but the Habs think he can play C. I’ll take their hockey opinions over yours - k1234
Guess I was not done.
1) You package assets - either for a player now or for picks to draft.develop a player for later. Whether that is just Galchenyuk or Galcehyuk + does not matter.
2) Or you don't make a bad or pointless trade.
That bloody simple.
Galchenyuk for Domi does not make the Habs any better, so hold on to your asset until there is a chance (if ever) to get the type of player you need rather than one you don't.
Making a trade to say you made a trade is just plain stupid.
Now I am done for real.
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k1234
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 02.21.2010
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Guess I was not done.
1) You package assets - either for a player now or for picks to draft.develop a player for later. Whether that is just Galchenyuk or Galcehyuk + does not matter.
2) Or you don't make a bad or pointless trade.
That bloody simple.
Galchenyuk for Domi does not make the Habs any better, so hold on to your asset until there is a chance (if ever) to get the type of player you need rather than one you don't.
Making a trade to say you made a trade is just plain stupid.
Now I am done for real. - Mashadar
You think because you add 2 2nd round picks that you’ll get a top C? This isn’t NHL 18.
So you prefer the Habs do nothing and lose Galchenyuk as a UFA in 2 years? THAT would have been bad asset management.
Get your head out of your ass
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I think the Yotes should have tossed something else in...advantage Coyotes. Pssst dont tell Tanner about this |
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apex123
Montreal Canadiens |
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Joined: 06.23.2016
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You’re the one not reading. You actually think the Habs can get a top 6 C or a top D for Galchenyuk? Berg did the best he could do under the circumstances and I think he did pretty well. Let’s be patient he still has assets to work with to get that center.
And you may see the Sergachev trade as bad asset management because you see Drouin as a winger but the Habs think he can play C. I’ll take their hockey opinions over yours - k1234
Fact: Bergevin's 5 year plan has produced nothing.
Fact: This team is absolutely clogged with huge contracts on declining players.
Fact: Galchenyuk has severely outmatched Domi's production.
Seriously, how can you have any confidence in Montreal's staff given the sum total of their (frank)ing incompetence over their body of work (or rather burning this once proud franchise to the ground). To be of the opinion that Bergevin doesn't suck is just objectively wrong. A 5 year old couldn't do a worse job than what Bergevin has done. |
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Fact: Bergevin's 5 year plan has produced nothing.
Fact: This team is absolutely clogged with huge contracts on declining players.
Fact: Galchenyuk has severely outmatched Domi's production.
Seriously, how can you have any confidence in Montreal's staff given the sum total of their (frank)ing incompetence over their body of work (or rather burning this once proud franchise to the ground). To be of the opinion that Bergevin doesn't suck is just objectively wrong. A 5 year old couldn't do a worse job than what Bergevin has done. - apex123
I agree.
And as someone that grew up watching Harold Ballard (frank) it all up in Toronto, my condolences.
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.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS Joined: 07.05.2010
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Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Sydney Joined: 08.02.2014
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dp - .HOHO.
Yes thats about what Bergy is feeling happened right now. |
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Bobs Your Uncle
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Corsi and Fenwick my balls, ON Joined: 11.12.2006
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reminds me when montreal traded subban for a defenseman who is a shell of his former self - penguininnevada
but also, subban sucks. |
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Bobs Your Uncle
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Corsi and Fenwick my balls, ON Joined: 11.12.2006
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Galchenyuk is not a bust. - Rinosaur
when did i say he was a bust? but also remember he was drafted 3rd overall and much more is expected of him. |
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Bobs Your Uncle
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Corsi and Fenwick my balls, ON Joined: 11.12.2006
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Chucky is definitely better. But he's a Coke head.
Domi is a douche and is way over rated. - Iggysbff
montreal will probably eventually trade max domi to toronto for leivo, johnsson, aaltonen or gauthier anyways. |
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Zo0by
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Gatineau, QC Joined: 06.18.2009
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i remember last 2 years how many times i said that i want Bergevin to trade Galchenyuk, he's soft on the board, not the hardest worker, can't play defensively, problems out of the ice... not very mature after 6 years in the NHL... big talent ok but 5 vs 5 he's an ordinary player... Domi have only play 3 years in NHL in a dead building in Arizona...
Galchenyuk 6 seasons - 0.61 points per game
Domi 3 seasons - 0.61 points per game
Domi will probably go Cheaper for more years and the kid always come to the rink working is ass off, not as talented as Galchy maybe but i think a guy like Scherbak and/or Zadina-Tkatchuk can replace him on the powerplay (the only place he was looking very good)
a lot of people can think Bergevin make a mistake because of talent level but i understand why he move Galchenyuk.... maybe they could have a little bit more but hey Domi is not a flop and he can play hockey i have no doubt...
Can't wait to see Domi in a building like the Bell Center... i think he will shine but thats my opinion...who am i ? Time will tell.... |
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Atarileaf
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 02.12.2017
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This is an odd deal for Montreal, seems like a downgrade skill-wise but ok, I'm sure Galchenyuk had his issues and probably wasn't happy in Montreal so maybe it's good for both teams, a change of scenery I believe is the way TSN described it and hopefully both players thrive in their new environment. Going to be weird playing against a Domi on a regular basis. |
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