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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
RistLOLainen
- Feds91Stammer

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 15 @ 12:14 PM ET
Yes, because he's the only D man in the league to be on the ice with 4th liners sometimes.
- sbroads24


So he played 186 minutes with a waiver claim and you see that as the same thing as other team's 4th lines. Every top minute defenseman plays with every teammate, the fact that you can't accept our quality of teammate is hurting him is the troubling part. It's such a no brainer.
mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 06.14.2015

Jun 15 @ 12:14 PM ET
RistLOLainen
- Feds91Stammer


RistoLOLnen flows a little better
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:15 PM ET
Risto is only 23 so I have to disagree with him being labeled as not worth taking a chance on. He has been on a terrible team as a number 1 D-man at a very young age. I think its way too soon to say he isn't going to be good. Maybe not a true number 1 but definitely a top 4 guy.
- Mino42


YUP, Nailed it
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:19 PM ET
Keith Yandle I think is a good example of what Risto is.

Yandle, 3rd year in the league: 69 games, 30 pts, -4. (Phoenix went 36-39-7)
Yandle, 5th year in the league: 82 games, 59 pts, +12 (Phoenix went 43-26-13)

I'd go on but I think this shows that despite a player's attributes, the success of the team can determine the success of the players as well. Yandle on a bad team is a 35pt guy, on a good team he's at 45-50.

He didn't start off as a dud, just as Risto does do some things well, but he needed other parts around him to work with. Risto isn't a Karlsson, he does not have the skill to play 25m a night by himself. As the team improves you will see him improve. I pray he is not traded.

- RhinoFan

nah

Yandle>>>Risto
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
Risto is only 23 so I have to disagree with him being labeled as not worth taking a chance on. He has been on a terrible team as a number 1 D-man at a very young age. I think its way too soon to say he isn't going to be good. Maybe not a true number 1 but definitely a top 4 guy.
- Mino42

"Only 23"

peak age is 24...

dude is a glorified PP specialist

trying to blame his supporting cast for his inability to effectively move the puck out of his own end or defend the blue line is hysterical
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
RistoLOLnen flows a little better
- mattmoulson

Nah sound it out.

Rist-LOL-ainen

you added a syllable
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Nah sound it out.

Rist-LOL-ainen

you added a syllable

- Feds91Stammer

I agree with your version. Rolls off the tongue better. Like Bustolainen.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
Buffalo's adding Dhalin...so like, why the frank wouldn't they want to see how those two pan out together??
- mgriffen

Cause Risto is a bum and way overrated so they could get a more useful player/package in return.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:22 PM ET
"Only 23"

peak age is 24...

dude is a glorified PP specialist

trying to blame his supporting cast for his inability to effectively move the puck out of his own end or defend the blue line is hysterical

- Feds91Stammer


so you watch a lot of Sabres Games the last few years??
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
I agree with your version. Rolls off the tongue better. Like Bustolainen.
- RafiDRW

Nah.

Bustmus RistLOLainen
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
so you watch a lot of Sabres Games the last few years??
- hehateme

No I don't follow the AHL that closely
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Jun 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
Nah.

Bustmus RistLOLainen

- Feds91Stammer

Yes!

hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:24 PM ET
No I don't follow the AHL that closely
- Feds91Stammer


So how do you comment on a player that you don't watch?
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jun 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
Risto is a flat-out awful player. The only dman in the league that I’d trust less than him is Bogosian. Also a Sabre

Taking Risto on for free would make any team worse
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
No I don't follow the AHL that closely
- Feds91Stammer


The Sabres have been a DUMPSTER fire Top to bottom for years, you can not look at stats to determine a players worth when they play with historically bad players surrounding them.

Risto may not be a true #1 D-man but he is for sure a solid top 4.

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 15 @ 12:31 PM ET
Risto is a flat-out awful player. The only dman in the league that I’d trust less than him is Bogosian. Also a Sabre

Taking Risto on for free would make any team worse

- AxlRose91


Your trolling used to be funny.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Risto is a flat-out awful player. The only dman in the league that I’d trust less than him is Bogosian. Also a Sabre

Taking Risto on for free would make any team worse

- AxlRose91


Stop smoking synthetics... make you do/say crazy things...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
So how do you comment on a player that you don't watch?
- hehateme



What year is it?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:34 PM ET
The Sabres have been a DUMPSTER fire Top to bottom for years, you can not look at stats to determine a players worth when they play with historically bad players surrounding them.

Risto may not be a true #1 D-man but he is for sure a solid top 4.

- hehateme

If by top 4 you mean a #4 PP specialist yeah.

Fact is he is terrible at 5v5

He cannot defend the blueline and he struggles with exiting his zone as well.

Those are facts. Doesn't matter if I have seen him play 10 games or 100 games.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
If by top 4 you mean a #4 PP specialist yeah.

Fact is he is terrible at 5v5

He cannot defend the blueline and he struggles with exiting his zone as well.

Those are facts. Doesn't matter if I have seen him play 10 games or 100 games.

- Feds91Stammer


now compare him to all the players on the Sabres... See how he fairs.


hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
now compare him to all the players on the Sabres... See how he fairs.
- hehateme


Also he plays 25 Min a game in all situations, Maybe just maybe he if his playing time goes to 18-20 mins a game, his stats would look a lot better....
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 15 @ 12:38 PM ET
If by top 4 you mean a #4 PP specialist yeah.

Fact is he is terrible at 5v5

He cannot defend the blueline and he struggles with exiting his zone as well.

Those are facts. Doesn't matter if I have seen him play 10 games or 100 games.

- Feds91Stammer


Another one that doesn't need to watch hockey to make up an opinion, just have to look at the stat sheet.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 15 @ 12:40 PM ET
Another one that doesn't need to watch hockey to make up an opinion, just have to look at the stat sheet.
- RhinoFan


easier that way I guess.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 15 @ 12:41 PM ET
Also he plays 25 Min a game in all situations, Maybe just maybe he if his playing time goes to 18-20 mins a game, his stats would look a lot better....
- hehateme

nah

his rate stats are bad so they will still be bad
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