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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jun 15 @ 9:51 AM ET
Sounds like Hextall is fine with waiving two of Lyon, Neuvirth and Stolarz to the AHL in October if necessary.
- Feanor



I actually have a feeling one is dealt at the draft. Not sure what the return is but think someone is gone.

Could Lyon fetch an early 2nd round pick? Just not sure they keep them all as Hart will get plenty of games in Lehigh.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:53 AM ET
I actually have a feeling one is dealt at the draft. Not sure what the return is but think someone is gone.

Could Lyon fetch an early 2nd round pick? Just not sure they keep them all as Hart will get plenty of games in Lehigh.

- J35Bacher


Could you theoretically assign Neuvirth to the ECHL?
dragonoffrost
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Jun 15 @ 9:56 AM ET
Trading 19 for immediate Nhl help is something Ronald hasn’t done. At some point I hope he does. He has never really given the flyers any immediate help in any of his trades. Hell even his free agent signings.

No issue moving down from 19 to get other assets

Peeps have mentioned Bennett. That is something the flyers have he assets for to acquire assuming Calgary is looking to move him.
Make it worth their while to get him

- rinaldo


Happy Birthday to your namesake
BiggE
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Jun 15 @ 10:02 AM ET
The Calgary trade to me feels like the most realistic and something that could happen. Bennett's name was out there at the deadline and Calgary has made it know they want to get back into the 1st round.

Bennett works moving with this teams development because of his age and he can shift to wing if Frost or Vorobyev prove ready. He kills penalties which is a plus.

- J35Bacher


The Calgary deal would be, by far, my preference compared to the other 2.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:04 AM ET
These are reasonable suggestions, but I would rather see what Laughton could do as the 3C first. He's 24 years old and it's time to give him more ice time and better wingers and see how he does. He already turned his possession game around from 15-16 when it was bad.
- Feanor


I'm kind of ambivalent on that. When I look at Laughton, I see a guy whose skill set seems to better suited to playing the wing at the NHL level. He just doesn't seem to have either the playmaking ability nor the defensive acumen that I want in a top 9 center.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:05 AM ET
I'm kind of ambivalent on that. When I look at Laughton, I see a guy whose skill set seems to better suited to playing the wing at the NHL level. He just doesn't seem to have either the playmaking ability nor the defensive acumen that I want in a top 9 center.
- BiggE


Can he skate hard? If so, he's a good PKer.
BiggE
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Jun 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
I actually have a feeling one is dealt at the draft. Not sure what the return is but think someone is gone.

Could Lyon fetch an early 2nd round pick? Just not sure they keep them all as Hart will get plenty of games in Lehigh.

- J35Bacher


Good, established NHL goaltenders can barely get you an early 2nd round pick. Lyon is 25 and has yet to establish himself as a legit NHL backup, let alone a #1. At best, you might get a 5th from a team that has little depth in goal and goal prospects.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
I'm kind of ambivalent on that. When I look at Laughton, I see a guy whose skill set seems to better suited to playing the wing at the NHL level. He just doesn't seem to have either the playmaking ability nor the defensive acumen that I want in a top 9 center.
- BiggE



I feel the same way.

I know it kind of sounds like the Couturier argument "give him wings and maybe you'll see him produce" but I just don't see that like I did with Couturier.

BiggE
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Jun 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Can he skate hard? If so, he's a good PKer.
- jmatchett383


He's been a good penalty killer at pretty much every level he's played, but I still don't see him as top 9 center. I think he could though be a nice 3rd line LW who can kill penalties and move to center if needed in a pinch.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
Could you theoretically assign Neuvirth to the ECHL?
- jmatchett383


Even if you could, that would be a real richard move
BiggE
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Jun 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
I feel the same way.

I know it kind of sounds like the Couturier argument "give him wings and maybe you'll see him produce" but I just don't see that like I did with Couturier.

- J35Bacher


Coots always had the defensive acumen and skills you want to see in a center, Laughton doesn't.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
Even if you could, that would be a real richard move
- Scoob


I don't disagree.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:12 AM ET
Good, established NHL goaltenders can barely get you an early 2nd round pick. Lyon is 25 and has yet to establish himself as a legit NHL backup, let alone a #1. At best, you might get a 5th from a team that has little depth in goal and goal prospects.
- BiggE



That's why i asked.

Maybe a team like Detroit who has two early 2nd round picks? Probably he would be a piece in a deal.

Laughton + Lyon for Detroit's 33? Take Farabee at 14, Berggren at 19 and then Foudy or Miller at 33? You have Vecchione who seems like he could be a 4th line center.

Laughton might have more value to another team compared to the Flyers.
wcorvette
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Jun 15 @ 10:14 AM ET

BiggE
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Today @ 6:37 AM ET
Team Negative is up early today. Hmm, finished 3rd in the metro, has one of the deepest prospect pools in the league, has a legit #1 D who is only 21 years old, has a good 1-2 punch center who will be 25 and 20 at the start of next year, holds 2 first round picks in the upcoming draft, and has ample cap space going into this offseason.

Yup, everything is just god awful and Hextall should be shot.


blasphemy
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
Coots always had the defensive acumen and skills you want to see in a center, Laughton doesn't.
- BiggE



Totally agree.

Couturier always showed these skills that you thought he could produce more. I just don't see it in Laughton.
dragonoffrost
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Jun 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
Even if you could, that would be a real richard move
- Scoob


Begging for a "TRADE ME" demand
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Begging for a "TRADE ME" demand
- dragonoffrost


Well, I guess it's not a big deal, since he'll be our for 8 months once he sees the first shot in training camp.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
Begging for a "TRADE ME" demand
- dragonoffrost



That's why I hope they just send Weise to Lehigh and hope he asks for his release to go over seas or look for an opportunity somewhere as a FA
BiggE
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Jun 15 @ 10:21 AM ET
That's why i asked.

Maybe a team like Detroit who has two early 2nd round picks? Probably he would be a piece in a deal.

Laughton + Lyon for Detroit's 33? Take Farabee at 14, Berggren at 19 and then Foudy or Miller at 33? You have Vecchione who seems like he could be a 4th line center.

Laughton might have more value to another team compared to the Flyers.

- J35Bacher


I just don't see it from Detroit's point of view. The Wings are loaded with some bad cap deals and should be in total rebuild mode right now. I can't see them wanting to move any of their high seconds for a goalie whose ceiling is probably that of an NHL backup and a forward, one year away from being an RFA, whose ceiling is probably that of a 3rd line wing and even that might be a reach.

Detroit would be much smarter to just hold onto their picks and see what opportunities come up during the 1st round. Besides, 6, they currently hold picks 30, 33, and 36 so if a guy they really like drops down to 20 or below, they have the ammo to move up. The Flyers deal would probably not appeal to them at all.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:24 AM ET
Good, established NHL goaltenders can barely get you an early 2nd round pick. Lyon is 25 and has yet to establish himself as a legit NHL backup, let alone a #1. At best, you might get a 5th from a team that has little depth in goal and goal prospects.
- BiggE


Well...would you trade him for a 5th? Go with an Elliott/Lyon tandem next year with Stolarz as your #1 call-up/AHL backup?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:29 AM ET
I actually have a feeling one is dealt at the draft. Not sure what the return is but think someone is gone.

Could Lyon fetch an early 2nd round pick? Just not sure they keep them all as Hart will get plenty of games in Lehigh.

- J35Bacher

lol no
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 01.13.2009

Jun 15 @ 10:29 AM ET
Coots always had the defensive acumen and skills you want to see in a center, Laughton doesn't.
- BiggE

Respectfully, I disagree.

Now if he ends up as. 3LW then so be it. He looked awesome next to Couts that one game...

He does skate well and possess a very good shot. If he plays wing there's a good chance he will produce more.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Respectfully, I disagree.

Now if he ends up as. 3LW then so be it. He looked awesome next to Couts that one game...

He does skate well and possess a very good shot. If he plays wing there's a good chance he will produce more.

- VladDrag

The 3C is Jori Lehtera
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
The 3C is Jori Lehtera
- YuenglingJagr


Not after we re-sign Filppula.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
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Jun 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
Totally agree.

Couturier always showed these skills that you thought he could produce more. I just don't see it in Laughton.

- J35Bacher

They have like 9 guys for the bottom 6. They will need to experiment to find lines that click is basically what it comes down to. Several of the guys have the ability to play center or wing.
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