This is the opinion of the OHL coaches who voted him 3rd smartest player in the OHL.
Hughes might be entertaining too watch, but man he is a bad puckwatcher. Pass.
I am leaninig more towards a trade down and getting another centre, like Veleno, Hayton or Kupari, then load up on defense.
- Reubenkincade

Still doesn't add up. Hughes, Dobson, Boqvist aren't in the OHL lol.


And OHL coaches polls doesn't = success.

Sam Bennett won the award the year he was drafted and yet he's been a bust so far considering where he was drafted. His hockey sense has been questioned by flames fans. Chris Bigras was a finalist as well as a dman and he's a 23 year old playing in the AHL after being drafted 32nd overall.

I haven't seen many people who have watched Hughes play a lot say that he's not a smart player, in fact he gets praised for being smart and using his hockey sense to help him defend despite being undersized.

Pretty sure Ottawa or Montreal will take him.
- neem55

Ottawa will take boqvist

I actually like velano over cock,tini
- Pres.cup

Other than your love affair for bustqvist, I tend to agree with your opinions...well some anyways.👍

I actually like velano over cock,tini
- Pres.cup

lol

this seems like an opinion being passed off as a fact lol. But yes, I will be one of the ones complaining if Bouchard is picked at #7. He's not in my top 7.
- Nucker101

If Hughes and Dobson are gone by 7 I would take Wahlstrom over Bouchard myself, but I would not complain about him being taken.

Only way I can possibly see it is if Montreal gets real stupid and picks Kotk or Dobson at 3.

Ottawa one ups their stupidity and is in love with Tkachuk so deeply by draft day that they still draft him.

Arizona picks Hughes over Zadina, having them both ranked high on their board but choosing the D over the W. They're not as old school as the other 3 teams here so I would bet big money that they have Zadina ranked above Tkachuk, Kotkaniemi, and the dmen. But Hughes might be someone they love.

Detroit pulling a MTL and drafting for need by going with a dman.


The odds of that are about 0.2% but I guess it could happen.
- Nucker101

Montreal and Ottawa have been both linked to Tkachuk
Det will take Michigan boy Hughes
If Duchene leaves this year who do Ottatwa hace at center ? Logan Brown?

Still doesn't add up. Hughes, Dobson, Boqvist aren't in the OHL lol.


And OHL coaches polls doesn't = success.

Sam Bennett won the award the year he was drafted and yet he's been a bust so far considering where he was drafted. Chris Bigras was a finalist as well as a dman and he's a 23 year old playing in the AHL after being drafted 32nd overall.

I haven't seen many people who have watched Hughes play a lot say that he's not a smart player, in fact he gets praised for being smart and using his hockey sense to help him defend despite being undersized.
- Nucker101

Fair enough, but you cant watch a hilite package and claim player x has high hockey IQ.
Without seeing many or any of these players play, we have to go on information provided by someone.
Btw, the Canuck way like him and those guys are analytic driven.
Bouchard checks a lot of boxes.

Tryamkin refused to play in Utica. He forced their hand. Sign him and gift him a spot or lose his rights. Two choices
- CanuckDon

I thought it was reported mgmt signed him to a contract that stipulated they couldn't force him to go to Utica?

That's on mgmt if they change their mind.

Montreal and Ottawa have been both linked to Tkachuk
Det will take Michigan boy Hughes
If Duchene leaves this year who do Ottatwa hace at center ? Logan Brown?
- VANTEL

i don't the sens are worried about it.

i really don't think ottawa plans ahead more than 5 days.

If Hughes and Dobson are gone by 7 I would take Wahlstrom over Bouchard myself, but I would not complain about him being taken.
- Retinalz

Wahlstrom is interesting. To me he seems like an "elite support player", as long as someone on his line is good at handling the puck and creating plays, he'll be money in the bank. But I don't think he can make a line "go" by himself. The guy can flat out score goals, but he needs someone to set him up. That's the difference between between him and Zadina. Zadina is better at creating plays for himself and his linemates imo.

I know some people here love Wahlstrom, but he's a tier below Zadina for me. Just my personal opinion as a wannabe armchair gm/scout.

Montreal and Ottawa have been both linked to Tkachuk
Det will take Michigan boy Hughes
If Duchene leaves this year who do Ottatwa hace at center ? Logan Brown?
- VANTEL

Ottawa will get a big haul for Karlsson and Hoffman. Duchene will be gone at TDL for a solid haul. If Dorian plays his cards right they can quickly turn their team around with prospects and be k with missing their 2019 1st. White and Brown both look capable, but just need to develop.

Still doesn't add up. Hughes, Dobson, Boqvist aren't in the OHL lol.


And OHL coaches polls doesn't = success.

Sam Bennett won the award the year he was drafted and yet he's been a bust so far considering where he was drafted. His hockey sense has been questioned by flames fans. Chris Bigras was a finalist as well as a dman and he's a 23 year old playing in the AHL after being drafted 32nd overall.

I haven't seen many people who have watched Hughes play a lot say that he's not a smart player, in fact he gets praised for being smart and using his hockey sense to help him defend despite being undersized.
- Nucker101

yeah, i've seen stuff about him using is quickness and anticipation to break up plays and maintain good gap control.

also, wahlstrom's offense picked after hughes joined the team.

this kid seems like the real deal.

Wahlstrom is interesting. To me he seems like an "elite support player", as long as someone on his line is good at handling the puck and creating plays, he'll be money in the bank. But I don't think he can make a line "go" by himself. The guy can flat out score goals, but he needs someone to set him up. That's the difference between between him and Zadina. Zadina is better at creating plays for himself and his linemates imo.

I know some people here love Wahlstrom, but he's a tier below Zadina for me. Just my personal opinion as a wannabe armchair gm/scout.
- Nucker101

Well said and I agree.
Zadina is going to be a fantastic player

Wahlstrom is interesting. To me he seems like an "elite support player", as long as someone on his line is good at handling the puck and creating plays, he'll be money in the bank. But I don't think he can make a line "go" by himself. The guy can flat out score goals, but he needs someone to set him up. That's the difference between between him and Zadina. Zadina is better at creating plays for himself and his linemates imo.

I know some people here love Wahlstrom, but he's a tier below Zadina for me. Just my personal opinion as a wannabe armchair gm/scout.
- Nucker101

I would take Zadina over everyone not named Svechnikov and Dahlin in this draft. But as you said there is a 0.2% chance he falls to us. If it was between Wahlstrom and Bouchard I pick Wahly but would be happy with Bouch.

Fair enough, but you cant watch a hilite package and claim player x has high hockey IQ.
Without seeing many or any of these players play, we have to go on information provided by someone.
Btw, the Canuck way like him and those guys are analytic driven.
Bouchard checks a lot of boxes.
- Reubenkincade

I can honestly say I only comment on players that I've seen play actual shifts/games, not highlights or reading generalized scouting reports that are just copied and slightly edited from the same sites. The international tournaments, full length games posted on websites, etc all help. Obviously mostly just focusing on guys projected in our draft range #7 and #37.

And for the rest of the players, I only try to read opinions from unbiased people who actually watch these guys play full games as well.

And then there's the group of players that are just hard to find any good info on outside of generalized/group think scouting reports. I don't really comment on those players.

Wahlstrom is interesting. To me he seems like an "elite support player", as long as someone on his line is good at handling the puck and creating plays, he'll be money in the bank. But I don't think he can make a line "go" by himself. The guy can flat out score goals, but he needs someone to set him up. That's the difference between between him and Zadina. Zadina is better at creating plays for himself and his linemates imo.

I know some people here love Wahlstrom, but he's a tier below Zadina for me. Just my personal opinion as a wannabe armchair gm/scout.
- Nucker101

Mike Bossy

Ottawa will take boqvist
- Pres.cup

I mean it's a nice dream. Zadina is way too good to pass up. Ottawa will likely take Zadina, tkachuk or D, they like tkachuk a lot apparently. Montreal will take Zadina or Hughes. Zadina won't go below 4.

I can honestly say I only comment on players that I've seen play actual shifts/games, not highlights or reading generalized scouting reports that are just copied and slightly edited from the same sites. The international tournaments, full length games posted on websites, etc all help. Obviously mostly just focusing on guys projected in our draft range #7 and #37.

And for the rest of the players, I only try to read opinions from unbiased people who actually watch these guys play full games as well. And then there's the group of players that are just hard to find any good info on outside of generalized/group think scouting reports.
- Nucker101

I do something similar at begining of season, I strat to follow some players I like, in the range i think we might pick, then watch and read up on them as much as i can.
I usually dont bother much with players that i think will be picked after the 4th, but target about 6-10 & follow them.
Been doing it this way for several decades, after reading an article by Bobfather, giving advise on home viewers trying to track draft eligible players.
Back then, no such thing as the internet, so it was a (frank) of a lot harder to get information.

Stfu you goof.
- CanuckDon

Now now.... temper temper, don't want to stress that old ticker you call a heart.

Now now.... temper temper, don't want to stress that old ticker you call a heart.
- Pres.cup

Just move on. You get these creepy obsessions with posters and they last for weeks. 90% of your posts aren’t even hockey related. If you want to chat hockey with me great. If not, beat it.

Other than your love affair for bustqvist, I tend to agree with your opinions...well some anyways.👍
- Reubenkincade

He's a risky pick, but had the most upside. Dobson is the safest

Wahlstrom is interesting. To me he seems like an "elite support player", as long as someone on his line is good at handling the puck and creating plays, he'll be money in the bank. But I don't think he can make a line "go" by himself. The guy can flat out score goals, but he needs someone to set him up. That's the difference between between him and Zadina. Zadina is better at creating plays for himself and his linemates imo.

I know some people here love Wahlstrom, but he's a tier below Zadina for me. Just my personal opinion as a wannabe armchair gm/scout.
- Nucker101

Agreed.

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Just move on. You get these creepy obsessions with posters and they last for weeks. 90% of your posts aren’t even hockey related. If you want to chat hockey with me great. If not, beat it.
- CanuckDon

Should we call him in?

I mean it's a nice dream. Zadina is way too good to pass up. Ottawa will likely take Zadina, tkachuk or D, they like tkachuk a lot apparently. Montreal will take Zadina or Hughes. Zadina won't go below 4.
- neem55

Bob McKenzie mentions on podcast that some scouts have Jesperi Kotkaniemi ahead of Zadina and Tkachuk. He said Habs choosing him at 3 would not be a surprise. He mentions there is a possibility Of Zadina falling out of top 5.