Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Still fine tuning my shortlist... For the most part I’m kind of underwhelmed by the popular options in our range. Depends on how it falls obviously, but I wouldn’t blame Benning for “reaching” or trading @ 7. Who are your guys this year? - DrChristianTroy
Same boat
I like Hughes or Dobson on defense. However, I don't think either of them has #1 stud dman potential. As for forwards, I'd almost prefer to trade down instead of drafting the ones that will likely be left at #7. There's 3 prospects that I really like that are projected to go in the 10-20 range. I'll probably post about them over the next few days.
And this is coming from someone who is usually against trading down. |
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mauryballstein
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.12.2015
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Would people here be in to Lucic and 10th for nothing? He might an alright player to play with Petterson. Yes he sucks but he would bring some toughness and skill.
Id do that then Tanev for 12th overall if possible.
Pick up Spezza and a 2nd f
Then deal Sven and Sutter for highest picks possible.
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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One could make a case for that - VANTEL
I'm going to look into this... |
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If he needs to be coddled he can f*ck off. Trade his rights. - Marwood
... Or we can treat/develop/support our assets properly (I don’t consider that coddling - just good business) & get the most out of them instead of turning them into disgruntled low value trade chips. |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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I believe he does. There's no transfer agreements between the KHL and NHL that would allow the NHL team to buyout the contract. At least as far as I know.
Also, waiting until next year for him to come back isn't the worst thing in the world. He's paying big minutes in Russia and even has a leadership role on his team, he can develop just fine over there instead of playing in a tire fire here. - Nucker101
Gotcha, thats my feeling as well on tree. He had a good year by all accounts and sounds like he has improved. This team can't afford to waste what few quality players/prospecta they have.
I'm sure he was a bit of a female dog when leaving but it's not like mgmt deserves a free pass on this, it sounds like they dropped the ball a bit too. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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belcherbd
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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... Or we can treat/develop/support our assets properly (I don’t consider that coddling - just good business) & get the most out of them instead of turning them into disgruntled low value trade chips. - DrChristianTroy
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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... Or we can treat/develop/support our assets properly (I don’t consider that coddling - just good business) & get the most out of them instead of turning them into disgruntled low value trade chips. - DrChristianTroy
#feelings |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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#feelings - Pres.cup
Agreed. Salaries and ice time should be distributed to whichever player has the strongest feelings. Subban feelings > Tryamkin > Petterson. We should have never signed Pettersson |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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... Or we can treat/develop/support our assets properly (I don’t consider that coddling - just good business) & get the most out of them instead of turning them into disgruntled low value trade chips. - DrChristianTroy
Yes please. Set the standard, you can't give every kid a chance and then be surprised when one isn't happy they aren't getting the free toy. Should be making it harder for kids to make the lineup, develop players in developmental leagues. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Yes please. Set the standard, you can't give every kid a chance and then be surprised when one isn't happy they aren't getting the free toy. Should be making it harder for kids to make the lineup, develop players in developmental leagues. - neem55
Tryamkin refused to play in Utica. He forced their hand. Sign him and gift him a spot or lose his rights. Two choices |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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... Or we can treat/develop/support our assets properly (I don’t consider that coddling - just good business) & get the most out of them instead of turning them into disgruntled low value trade chips. - DrChristianTroy
If he is demanding top pairing minutes and the team is listening (hypothetically), then that is coddling.
His accepted refusal to go to Utica for a conditioning stint was coddling.
He doesn't seem to want to be developed. Trade his rights. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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If he is demanding top pairing minutes and the team is listening (hypothetically), then that is coddling.
His accepted refusal to go to Utica for a conditioning stint was coddling.
He doesn't seem to want to be developed. Trade his rights. - Marwood
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Tryamkin refused to play in Utica. He forced their hand. Sign him and gift him a spot or lose his rights. Two choices - CanuckDon
if he's developing in Russia instead and wants to sign here next summer for multiple years then I'd rather do that instead of trading him for a late 3rd round pick or a 4th. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Agreed. Salaries and ice time should be distributed to whichever player has the strongest feelings. Subban feelings > Tryamkin > Petterson. We should have never signed Pettersson - CanuckDon
I agree Dave.... it's why we need to resign Edler.... he feels so strong. |
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Same boat
I like Hughes or Dobson on defense. However, I don't think either of them has #1 stud dman potential. As for forwards, I'd almost prefer to trade down instead of drafting the ones that will likely be left at #7. There's 3 prospects that I really like that are projected to go in the 10-20 range. I'll probably post about them over the next few days.
And this is coming from someone who is usually against trading down. - Nucker101
If Hughes is there at 7, yes please. Dobson, no thanks. Other than that I think we’re probably on the same page - looking forward to your post |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Tryamkin refused to play in Utica. He forced their hand. Sign him and gift him a spot or lose his rights. Two choices - CanuckDon
Because other kids had been gifted spots. It starts with JV, McCann and Hutton making the lineup when they shouldn't have |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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if he's developing in Russia instead and wants to sign here next summer for multiple years then I'd rather do that instead of trading him for a late 3rd round pick or a 4th. - Nucker101
Sure, if his attitude has improved. I am not privy to his conversations with management. Personally, I think he is overated by our fanbase simply because he is huge and is a decent skater. He was pretty terrible at the worlds as well. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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if he's developing in Russia instead and wants to sign here next summer for multiple years then I'd rather do that instead of trading him for a late 3rd round pick or a 4th. - Nucker101
What about a conditional 2nd? |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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If he is demanding top pairing minutes and the team is listening (hypothetically), then that is coddling.
His accepted refusal to go to Utica for a conditioning stint was coddling.
He doesn't seem to want to be developed. Trade his rights. - Marwood
Ya if he's going to be an issue, I think it would be good as long as you got good value. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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If Hughes is there at 7, yes please. Dobson, no thanks. Other than that I think we’re probably on the same page - looking forward to your post - DrChristianTroy
What about boqvist? |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Because other kids had been gifted spots. It starts with JV, McCann and Hutton making the lineup when they shouldn't have - neem55
I think all three of them earned a spot. They were the best players in preseason. They should have been sent back to junior though after performance started to decline. I am not sure why the team refused to admit they weren't ready |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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I think all three of them earned a spot. They were the best players in preseason. They should have been sent back to junior though after performance started to decline. I am not sure why the team refused to admit they weren't ready - CanuckDon
I agree |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Sure, if his attitude has improved. I am not privy to his conversations with management. Personally, I think he is overated by our fanbase simply because he is huge and is a decent skater. He was pretty terrible at the worlds as well. - CanuckDon
In general, it seems on this board have really hard time evaluating young players. Tree had a great year, made huge stride and ran out of gas. his value should be sky high. |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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I think all three of them earned a spot. They were the best players in preseason. They should have been sent back to junior though after performance started to decline. I am not sure why the team refused to admit they weren't ready - CanuckDon
Kids do good in the preseason all the time. Good teams make it harder, it's the bottom line. |
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