Dobson is a bit of a reach, but he's a safe pick, and isn't that what you want in a top 10 pick
- Pres.cup

I meant Kotkaniemi. He is a reach, Dobson isn't imo

Kotkaniemi is not BPA... perhaps he's BCA.
Boqvist has the highest potential, but also the greatest risk, out off the defensemen. Dobson has the lowest potential, but also very little risk.

If we draft bodqvist we'll get to hear, from Don and others, how we made a bad pick for at least three years. Ten years from now is how boqvist should be judged and it's a pick that won't help Benning get another contract.

If we draft Dobson , he'll probably make the team in 2019/20 , and be a solid top 6 defensemen for 15 years with a 5year period of being a top 4 defensemen. People will say he was a good pick fir 3or 4years and then will lament the fact that we drafted Bryan Allen V.2.0. Instead of a true top pairing guy.
- Pres.cup

I seen him play two games this year and when he was on the ice he controlled the play. I realize two games is not a lot but I liked his game back and forth

I have watched dobson more than a few games and he did nothing special. He did make mistakes in his own zone, I didn't see the next level of speed. I didn't see him controlling the game. I do believe a lot of you are falling in love with the stats.

As a few have pointed out you need to draft for special talents and Dobson is good old reliable vanilla . Sorry .
- VANTEL

Yup.... too safe for me.

Like saving your virginity for marriage, then on your wedding night you pull out a condom to wear, safe.

I think he has a very accurate shot for a Dman. Something that could potentially become lethal as he gets a little bigger and stronger.
- NorthNuck

I didn't see his lethat shot so if you have a clip of it please show. In my books he does everything Okay Juolevi 2.0

Yup.... too safe for me.

Like saving your virginity for marriage, then on your wedding night you pull out a condom to wear, safe.
- Pres.cup

I'm taking mine to the grave

I didn't see his lethat shot so if you have a clip of it please show. In my books he does everything Okay Juolevi 2.0
- VANTEL

I said could become lethal. All I said was it looks very accurate which is a good skill to have.

I don't see taking Kotkaniemi over him who by most consensus has a ceiling of a 2C and is consistently ranked several spots lower by most estimates.

I said could become lethal. All I said was it looks very accurate which is a good skill to have.

I don't see taking Kotkaniemi over him who by most consensus has a ceiling of a 2C and is consistently ranked several spots lower by most estimates.
- NorthNuck

If I seen a booming shot or speed to burn I would be all over him but to me he just does things okay.

Jack of all trades master of none

I said could become lethal. All I said was it looks very accurate which is a good skill to have.

I don't see taking Kotkaniemi over him who by most consensus has a ceiling of a 2C and is consistently ranked several spots lower by most estimates.
- NorthNuck

The few things I have read on Kotkaniemi remind me of Horvat in a few ways: strong build, already good two-way game, excellent work ethic, average skater, good hands, and similar career projection of 2C ceiling.

I do like though that most agree his skating has drastically improved over the course of this year and that he is still working on it. To me, that explains his rising stock. Skill is good, but the work ethic and hockey IQ should keep pushing his ceiling

Canucks Army has Bouchard at 7. They talk about his excellent vision, passing, defensive awareness and his smarts.
- Reubenkincade

The other day Canucks Army wrote all kinds of negatives about his skating and defensive decision making saying it is a real concern. Its a collection of opinions over there.

The few things I have read on Kotkaniemi remind me of Horvat in a few ways: strong build, already good two-way game, excellent work ethic, average skater, good hands, and similar career projection of 2C ceiling.

I do like though that most agree his skating has drastically improved over the course of this year and that he is still working on it. To me, that explains his rising stock. Skill is good, but the worth ethic and hockey IQ should keep pushing his ceiling
- WhiteLie

I get the reasoning but I think we need a top end Dman. We already have a Horvat, we have no Dmen past Juolevi.

A scouting report on Bouchard from someone who's watched him and Dobson a lot. Sounds pretty unbiased since he points out the good and bad.
- Nucker101

Whose the report from?
He certainly goes against the grain on his opinion of his shot and passing ability.

The few things I have read on Kotkaniemi remind me of Horvat in a few ways: strong build, already good two-way game, excellent work ethic, average skater, good hands, and similar career projection of 2C ceiling.

I do like though that most agree his skating has drastically improved over the course of this year and that he is still working on it. To me, that explains his rising stock. Skill is good, but the work ethic and hockey IQ should keep pushing his ceiling
- WhiteLie

I said the other day I would love 2 Horvats

I get the reasoning but I think we need a top end Dman. We already have a Horvat, we have no Dmen past Juolevi.
- NorthNuck

Dahlin Hughes

then next tier

have just come to the conclusion that all of this tryamkin talk is mostly about trying to get him traded

both from canucks and his side


that tanev/virtanen/tryamkin for ror rumour has really stuck with me
- BobBot

Interesting thought... maybe...

Probably the best thing that could happen to this franchise is if Hughes is there at 7

I'm taking mine to the grave
- VANTEL

Interesting thought... maybe...
- boonerbuck

That crossed my mind too. Tryamkin plays nice and says the right things and Benning can increase his value

My inside understanding is that the Canucks have Tkachuk #1 on their list at the 7th pick followed by Dobson then Bouchard, so take that for what its worth...
- chompsey

Benning keeps saying speed is one of the biggest factors in determining their pick at 7. That kind of rules out both Tkachuk and Bouchard.

I get the reasoning but I think we need a top end Dman. We already have a Horvat, we have no Dmen past Juolevi.
- NorthNuck

Agree on the need, and if Benning sees the forwards and defenseman in similar projections then a D would be a good choice.

I, personally, am not wowed by the likes of Bouchard/Dobson and feel like they are not miles ahead of the next crop, thus would be interested in a forward should Hughes not be available

I said the other day I would love 2 Horvats
- VANTEL

Both Pettersson and Kotkaniemi are experienced on the wing too. Would be able to load up lines like Edmonton does with Draisaitl and the Canucks used to do with Kesler

Both Pettersson and Kotkaniemi are experienced on the wing too. Would be able to load up lines like Edmonton does with Draisaitl and the Canucks used to do with Kesler
- WhiteLie

I think it was Don that brought this up but I would like to try a third line of Gaudette Dahlen and Pettersson

Anyone that drew a comparison between JV and Burt during his draft doesn't follow prospects. End of story. JV for one isn't big or physical and he certainly doesn't have the IQ of either player.
- CanuckDon

I got bored of asking people why Bertuzzi is always the comparison to Jake. Bert was a actual big hockey player. A couple of inches and 20-25 pounds is a lot bigger. Jake is larger than average but hardly a BIG hockey player.

Again, labels. Players even smaller than Jake have been called power forwards but some people automatically pigeon hole these guys into a class of players that have special requirements, expectations and learning curves all because of a fkn label loosely thrown around.... Near half the forwards in the league are Jakes size. Jakes special status is pure group think.

I got bored of asking people why Bertuzzi is always the comparison to Jake. Bert was a actual big hockey player. A couple of inches and 20-25 pounds is a lot bigger. Jake is larger than average but hardly a BIG hockey player.

Again, labels. Players even smaller than Jake have been called power forwards but some people automatically pigeon hole these guys into a class of players that have special requirements, expectations and learning curves all because of a fkn label loosely thrown around.... Near half the forwards in the league are Jakes size. Jakes special status is pure group think.

- boonerbuck

Favourite part of Jake's draft year was how Virtanen, Ritchie, Perlini, Tuch, Dal Colle and someone else were all basically "The Next Lucic?!"™

Despite Dal Colle just being big but not "powerful". Virtanen is a bigger human but not exactly large. Ritchie, yeah maybe I guess whatever. Perlini being more of a shooter versus jam kind of scorer. Tuch, yeah maybe but he's not "angry".

Every year its like any forward who threw a hit or two gets "The Next Lucic" label in the draft as long as they are 6'1".

I'm taking mine to the grave
- VANTEL

Easy to never lose something that nobody else wants

If I seen a booming shot or speed to burn I would be all over him but to me he just does things okay.

Jack of all trades master of none
- VANTEL

well the scouts really disagree with you. He is regarded as an excellent skater and one of the best defensively of the dmen available at the top of the draft. At the end of the day I am ok with Hughes, Dobson or Whalley