If he was younger, shorter, had a harder shot, was faster and had more upside, then I'd love him.
But Donald loves him, so for the sake of it(I actually like him, just don't feel he's as big a home run as boqvist) I'm going ti have to hate him as a player who moved from 15ov into the top ten based on 4games at the end ofthe year when none of the other prospects where playing.

#recencybias
- Pres.cup

Dobson has spent most of 2018 in the general 7-15 range and moved up into the 6-11 range pretty firmly by March. Thats relatively normal.

If its recency bias you're miffed at, then its more the talk that some places/sources think he could go as high as 3 or have him as super Subban.

You need to find some better woodpiles.

Zadina?
Wahlstrom?
Boqvist?
- Pres.cup

Zadina won’t fall to 7. Kotkaniemi > Wahlstrom. Prefer that trade with Philly to selecting Boqvist. So mehhh.

If he was younger, shorter, had a harder shot, was faster and had more upside, then I'd love him.
But Donald loves him, so for the sake of it(I actually like him, just don't feel he's as big a home run as boqvist) I'm going ti have to hate him as a player who moved from 15ov into the top ten based on 4games at the end ofthe year when none of the other prospects where playing.

#recencybias
- Pres.cup

lol

I really struggle to find someone I’d be ecstatic selecting at 7 unless Hughes falls. I’d take Kotkaniemi if forced to choose between him and the others I’m not so high on. Ideally I’d prefer a trade with Philly because I think 14 & 19 is a sweet spot to snap up 2 of my favs. Obviously very unlikely...
- DrChristianTroy

One of my favs is there for sure. Kravtsov ❤️❤️

For sure, but some people might think he's as good the wingers after Zadina so I can see why they'd have him ranked in their top 7.
- Nucker101

Except he is not. Especially considering Hayton and Kupari are just as good at centre.

Recency bias?

Kotkaniemi was ranked behind Lundestrom, Denisenko, Olofsson, Kupari, Ginning, and Bokk in CS' midterm rankings.

They now have Kravtsov, Kaut, and Ginning still ahead of him.

Zadina won’t fall to 7. Kotkaniemi > Wahlstrom. Prefer that trade with Philly to selecting Boqvist. So mehhh.
- DrChristianTroy

I have not read or watched anything that suggests Kotkaniemi is a better prospect then wahlstrom, the closest is the suggestion that he could be drafted higher due to teams drafting for need rather then BPA.
I think peterson will be a 1c not a 1lw, horvat will be 2c but will play more minutes due to PK time.

Sutter will be 3c in two years or traded.

We need LW and defense more then center.

Dobson has spent most of 2018 in the general 7-15 range and moved up into the 6-11 range pretty firmly by March. Thats relatively normal.

If its recency bias you're miffed at, then its more the talk that some places/sources think he could go as high as 3 or have him as super Subban.
- Lindenis#1

It's the push that he's now a top 5pick or the best of the 4 defenders after Dahlin, when a month ago he was the lowest rated defender.
#recencybias

You could get an equal or better center than Barret Hayton in the 2nd round in Ty Dellandrea.

It's the push that he's now a top 5pick or the best of the 4 defenders after Dahlin, when a month ago he was the lowest rated defender.
#recencybias
- Pres.cup

Fair, but I've seen most places rank him behind Dahlin and Hughes, it being pick your poison between Bouchard and Dobson with then Boqvist as the 5th of 5.

Only this week has stuff gone a bit silly but that's to be as expected as GMs start using their media buddies to fluff and puff a guy they don't want to be grilled for at their pick, or poop talk a guy they don't to be grilled for passing on/hopefully get later

Except he is not. Especially considering Hayton and Kupari are just as good at centre.
- thundachunk

Personal opinion, none of us will agree.


I'm not a big Kupari fan, he can dangle, but when I've seen him play, he doesn't actually create enough scoring chances effectively, just seems like his hockey sense isn't as good as his skill.

I actually like Hayton as a prospect/player, he works his ass off in the games i've seen him play, but I don't see his offensive upside being that high.

You could get an equal or better center than Barret Hayton in the 2nd round in Ty Dellandrea.
- classic321

I prefer Hayton, but i don't see a big difference between him and Dellandrea. I've seen Dellandrea popping up as a 1st rounder in most recent mocks though.

Personal opinion, none of us will agree.


I'm not a big Kupari fan, he can dangle, but when I've seen him play, he doesn't actually create enough scoring chances effectively, just seems like his hockey sense isn't as good as his skill.

I actually like Hayton as a prospect/player, he works his ass off in the games i've seen him play, but I don't see his offensive upside being that high.
- Nucker101

What’s your take on Berggren?

I agree. We have a good group of forwards. Yes we need a center man but, we need dman way more.
- 93Nucks

You take our top 6 D men and top 6 forwards and see who has the most experience.

We had 2 forwards currently on this team that have scored more than 20 goals in the last two years . That is not a good group of forwards

What’s your take on Berggren?
- DrChristianTroy

He's one of the 2-3 guys I was alluding to yesterday that I'd like to trade down for. Really high on him.

Personal opinion, none of us will agree.


I'm not a big Kupari fan, he can dangle, but when I've seen him play, he doesn't actually create enough scoring chances effectively, just seems like his hockey sense isn't as good as his skill.

I actually like Hayton as a prospect/player, he works his ass off in the games i've seen him play, but I don't see his offensive upside being that high.
- Nucker101

That's like, your opinion man. I know that it's a fact, if you disagree with me that's ok. In fact I commend you for being so self confident that your ok with being wrong. Good for you, and Don.

He's one of the 2-3 guys I was alluding to yesterday that I'd like to trade down for. Really high on him.
- Nucker101

75% of 8... so 6 times lol
- johnnykarate

31 pts in 40 games so that should equate to 63 pts in 82 games . I'll take that

I agree drafting for position can get you in trouble. That's why I shake my head every time someone suggests Kotkaniemi as a realistic option at 7. I promote picking a Dman, but that's because I think the BPA where we pick will be one of several Dmen.
- NorthNuck

I am pretty sure that we shake our heads every time we see Dobson at 7 too

- DrChristianTroy

He just checks all the boxes for me. Already well built/strong for his size. Solid skater, can forecheck like a dog and create turnovers, fearless, guy battles all over the ice and isn't afraid of going to the dirty areas. But at the same time he has the skill/speed/hockey sense you want in a potential top 6 forward as well. He can dangle, has the vision to create plays and has finishing ability. He makes some really creative plays with the puck.

He's one of the reasons I prefer trading down from #7 if Zadina/Hughes are gone.

I am pretty sure that we shake our heads every time we see Dobson at 7 too
- VANTEL

One is a reach the other isn't just saying

"there’s an air of reliable vanilla-ness to his game."

An appropriate description of a few of the prospects in the 7 range
- WhiteLie

One is a reach the other isn't just saying
- NorthNuck

I have watched dobson more than a few games and he did nothing special. He did make mistakes in his own zone, I didn't see the next level of speed. I didn't see him controlling the game. I do believe a lot of you are falling in love with the stats.

As a few have pointed out you need to draft for special talents and Dobson is good old reliable vanilla . Sorry .

One is a reach the other isn't just saying
- NorthNuck

Dobson is a bit of a reach, but he's a safe pick, and isn't that what you want in a top 10 pick

I have watched dobson more than a few games and he did nothing special. He did make mistakes in his own zone, I didn't see the next level of speed. I didn't see him controlling the game. I do believe a lot of you are falling in love with the stats.

As a few have pointed out you need to draft for special talents and Dobson is good old reliable vanilla . Sorry .
- VANTEL

I think he has a very accurate shot for a Dman. Something that could potentially become lethal as he gets a little bigger and stronger.