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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:57 PM ET
LeBrun just said Oilers want to make a hockey trade for Lucic. They are not looking to give up assets
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:59 PM ET
LeBrun just said Oilers want to make a hockey trade for Lucic. They are not looking to give up assets
- VANTEL




Yeah, and so are the Canucks with Eriksson
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 14 @ 11:00 PM ET
I'd say the guy outside Dahlen with clear top pair potential is Boqvist. Problem is, he's a big boom/bust risk. He's my #1 guy I'd like out of this draft for that reason, but I like to gamble
- neem55


I, 100percent, agree with this statement, it's the basis of my ongoing trade war with Donald.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:00 PM ET



Yeah, and so are the Canucks with Eriksson

- Nucker101



Good luck with that
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
LeBrun just said Oilers want to make a hockey trade for Lucic. They are not looking to give up assets
- VANTEL


I hear Ottawa is trying to give Hoffman away, maybe the best of a bad situation for both teams.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
LeBrun just said Oilers want to make a hockey trade for Lucic. They are not looking to give up assets
- VANTEL


i guess they are looking to retain 50%?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
I really find this idea that because Dobson is a "safe pick", that automatically means his ceiling is lowered. That is not the case at all in my opinion. What makes him a safe pick is his play in his own end and his skating. He still oozes top pairing though. He can QB a PP, is good in the offensive end 5 on 5 and has a variety of shots to use at his disposal. He already has NHL size. Somehow in this crazy world, these attributes have worked negatively in his assessments because he's safe lock to be a top 6. This idea you cant hit a home run without more risk is silly. Trade down then.... there are lots of really high risk high reward picks as you move down....lollolollollo

People are so caught up in labels.

Like Top pairing. It appears people don't think you can have a player that is good at both ends of the ice to be a top pairing. You need lights out offense. I think Dobson likely loses less of his offensive production in the NHL than some of the other highly offensive small or slow top 10 ranked dmen. Who cares if it's safe.

- boonerbuck
those are the same people that then whine every time that player gives up a goal or scoring chance.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 14 @ 11:02 PM ET
Canucks Army has Bouchard at 7. They talk about his excellent vision, passing, defensive awareness and his smarts.
- Reubenkincade

You need guys like Bouchard, with his big shot, but you also need a skating puck transition guy, not one or the other. Seabrook / Keith.

They have to figure out what's more pressing and what can maybe be picked up in round two. I know you can't pick two guys at seven but the truth is you need all sorts of skill sets to win.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:03 PM ET
I hear Ottawa is trying to give Hoffman away, maybe the best of a bad situation for both teams.
- Reubenkincade


Lucic would never waive for Ottawa. And that's a horrible trade for the Sens, even with Hoffman's alleged psychopath female dog
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:04 PM ET

i guess they are looking to retain 50%?

- Retinalz



Even still. He was fit for the NHL 4 years ago but not for this speed game
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 14 @ 11:06 PM ET
LeBrun just said Oilers want to make a hockey trade for Lucic. They are not looking to give up assets
- VANTEL

I heard Dreger on TSN 1260 in Edmonton that Lucic is in play but would have to throw in a "sweetener". Oiler fans all day and the hosts were suggesting Lucic and Puliarvii for Hanifan. No where near enough in my opinion, as it would take a minimum of their 10 oa just to take Lucic.
And they say Vancouver smokes to much weed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:06 PM ET
You need guys like Bouchard, with his big shot, but you also need a skating puck transition guy, not one or the other. Seabrook / Keith.

They have to figure out what's more pressing and what can maybe be picked up in round two. I know you can't pick two guys at seven but the truth is you need all sorts of skill sets to win.

- LeftCoaster



Boqvist has the best shot
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 14 @ 11:06 PM ET
Yup - nobody here knows that Bouchard and Dobson can’t be a number 1.
- CanuckDon


I do....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:07 PM ET
I heard Dreger on TSN 1260 in Edmonton that Lucic is in play but would have to throw in a "sweetener". Oiler fans all day and the hosts were suggesting Lucic and Puliarvii for Hanifan. No where near enough in my opinion, as it would take a minimum of their 10 oa just to take Lucic.
And they say Vancouver smokes to much weed.

- carsonagenic


Third time a charm?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 14 @ 11:08 PM ET
Third time a charm?

- VANTEL

maybe just didn't think you saw it with the talk. they are off their rocker up here.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:09 PM ET
Even still. He was fit for the NHL 4 years ago but not for this speed game
- VANTEL


I still think he can decent bottom 6 player for the right team, but only if he actually got paid like one. I'm assuming, by "hockey trade", they're trying to unload him for a cap dump in return, the problem is that not many players around the NHL still have 5 years left on their terrible contracts.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:12 PM ET
I still think he can decent bottom 6 player for the right team, but only if he actually got paid like one. I'm assuming, by "hockey trade", they're trying to unload him for a cap dump in return, the problem is that not many players around the NHL still have 5 years left on their terrible contracts.
- Nucker101


He has been a wussy since he joined the Oilers. His talent is being a sh1t disturber. I think playing with Jesus he thought he could be an actual player.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 14 @ 11:13 PM ET
You need guys like Bouchard, with his big shot, but you also need a skating puck transition guy, not one or the other. Seabrook / Keith.

They have to figure out what's more pressing and what can maybe be picked up in round two. I know you can't pick two guys at seven but the truth is you need all sorts of skill sets to win.

- LeftCoaster


Lets hope some more of those gaps in skillset, get filled at this draft.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:13 PM ET
he'll wish he was a stay at home dman when he sees Buffalo
- Nucker101


ya buffalo is a garbage city like detroit
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 14 @ 11:15 PM ET
Boqvist has the best shot
- VANTEL


Bouchard....

I swear we've seen this argument before somewhere.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 14 @ 11:16 PM ET
the 25 mins a night defender. Which one projects to be which in this draft?
- Nucker101


Boqvist.. if he hits his ceiling
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:18 PM ET



Yeah, and so are the Canucks with Eriksson

- Nucker101

so would you do a swap?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 14 @ 11:20 PM ET
so would you do a swap?
- SMBDragon

No, as much as Loui sucks, his contract is shorter and front loaded
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 14 @ 11:24 PM ET
Bouchard....

I swear we've seen this argument before somewhere.

- belcherbd


Prove it.... boqvist's scouting report says he's got one of, if not, the best shot in the draft. Bouchard's doesn't.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 14 @ 11:25 PM ET
https://dobberprospects.c...gs-top-130-final-edition/

Crazy Joe
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