But the horse jizz was fine
- sbroads24

That would be like thick coconut milk all you have to do is clear your mind and go

Seriously, were worried about what would happen? This is bordering on hilarity at this point
- sbroads24

Some people think we're going to make the playoffs it looks like

I think Casey at 2 is the best for his development

Sign one of Grabovski, Stajan, Bozak, Letestu, Nash and you are good on a 2-3 year deal.
- ImThatGuy

Was thinking Derek Ryan would be a great target.

Bozak would be decent but I have no idea what his contract demands would be. Ryan is a quality possession player, F/O winner and 5v5 scorer. He almost hit 40 points last season and could be had for probably in the 3M range. Nice, short contract, with positive impact in the bottom 6.

Was thinking Derek Ryan would be a great target.

Bozak would be decent but I have no idea what his contract demands would be. Ryan is a quality possession player, F/O winner and 5v5 scorer. He almost hit 40 points last season and could be had for probably in the 3M range. Nice, short contract, with positive impact in the bottom 6.
- TheSabresTaco

Completely forgot about him.

But the horse jizz was fine
- sbroads24

I hear you two share a name

Hanifin had 32 points and was a -20, it's not as if he's Hedman.

Every team gets an all-star (see: girgensons, zemgus). He's obviously better than ZG, i know.
- jcragcrumple

So beacuse he's a -20 he's bad ? And you just used hedman as example ?


Young defenseman don't start hitting their stride until the 3rd or 4th year

Hanifin had 32 points and was a -20, it's not as if he's Hedman.

Every team gets an all-star (see: girgensons, zemgus). He's obviously better than ZG, i know.
- jcragcrumple

25 EV points.

Wanna know the difference between him and Ristolainen??

Hanifin - 142 PP mins
Ristolainen - 269 PP mins

25 EV points.

Wanna know the difference between him and Ristolainen??

Hanifin - 142 PP mins
Ristolainen - 269 PP mins
- sbroads24

But he was -20

25 EV points.

Wanna know the difference between him and Ristolainen??

Hanifin - 142 PP mins
Ristolainen - 269 PP mins
- sbroads24

I'm sure he's good. Truthfully, i watch him maybe 3 times a year. I have no strong opinions on him one way or another.

If they wanted Scandella or McCabe + for him (which i'm sure they don't), i think that's a better fit.

ROR for a LHD doesn't make any sense to me with how the D core is shaking out. The move for ROR is a LW or a RHD D imo. I think the LW path is best, personally

So beacuse he's a -20 he's bad ? And you just used hedman as example ?


Young defenseman don't start hitting their stride until the 3rd or 4th year
- gerbe75pts

AND YET.... a lot of people want to trade Risto and Scandella just because we are getting Dahlin....


does.... not.... compute.

But he was -20
- TheSabresTaco

Duncan Keith was a -29 last year.
OEL was a -28
Jack Eichel a -25
Patrick Kane a -20


+/- is a stat extremely dependent on full team not just an individual.

Some people think we're going to make the playoffs it looks like

I think Casey at 2 is the best for his development
- gerbe75pts

I know faceoffs don't matter, but who's going to win them when we get rid of ROR?

Our 1C isn't exactly adept at winning draws in the NHL. I don't remember Erod being a standout on the dot either. I do remember Erod making some boneheaded defensive plays though.

We need a defensive center if we get rid of ROR.. one that can take draws... ROR can win a few, or so I'm told, and is a real good defensive forward.

It just might matter one day.

Duncan Keith was a -29 last year.
OEL was a -28
Jack Eichel a -25
Patrick Kane a -20


+/- is a stat extremely dependent on full team not just an individual.
- ImThatGuy

Was being sarcastic. It's a bum stat. Also depends on deployment and the success (or failures) of the team.

In all serious though, Hanifin struggles with consistency, but has a huge ceiling. Would love him here, but he needs work.

So beacuse he's a -20 he's bad ? And you just used hedman as example ?


Young defenseman don't start hitting their stride until the 3rd or 4th year
- gerbe75pts

I'm responding to the All-star comment. There's clearly a range when it comes to all-stars.

Connor McDavid was an all-star this year.

Mike Green and Brian Boyle were too.

I know faceoffs don't matter, but who's going to win them when we get rid of ROR?

Our 1C isn't exactly adept at winning draws in the NHL. I don't remember Erod being a standout on the dot either. I do remember Erod making some boneheaded defensive plays though.

We need a defensive center if we get rid of ROR.. one that can take draws... ROR can win a few, or so I'm told, and is a real good defensive forward.

It just might matter one day.
- BareMetal

They basically matter sometimes

I'm sure he's good. Truthfully, i watch him maybe 3 times a year. I have no strong opinions on him one way or another.

If they Scandella or McCabe + for him (which i'm sure they don't), i think that's a better fit.

ROR for a LHD doesn't make any sense to me with how the D core is shaking out. The move for ROR is a LW or a RHD D imo. I think the LW path is best, personally
- jcragcrumple

Dude he' at the level of elite Seth before Columbus

I'm responding to the All-star comment. There's clearly a range when it comes to all-stars.

Connor McDavid was an all-star this year.

Mike Green and Brian Boyle were too.
- jcragcrumple

Imagine scoring 108 points in a season and only be +20. Poor Connor.

AND YET.... a lot of people want to trade Risto and Scandella just because we are getting Dahlin....


does.... not.... compute.
- JVince11

As soon as we get a new shiny toy...everyone else is awful and they need to be traded.

As far as Risto..I swear half the people on here don't even watch the games. Stats can only tell you so much. You have to watch how he plays..watch how he is always on the ice in the pooptiest of situations trying to cover for the 4 half-wits that accompany him.

And now that we FINALLY get him another quality defenseman to play with....everybody wants to trade him

As soon as we get a new shiny toy...everyone else is awful and they need to be traded.

As far as Risto..I swear half the people on here don't even watch the games. Stats can only tell you so much. You have to watch how he plays..watch how he is always on the ice in the pooptiest of situations trying to cover for the 4 half-wits that accompany him.

And now that we FINALLY get him another quality defenseman to play with....everybody wants to trade him
- feetontheair22

Good Post.


You, Homie, and I need to start the "We Keep Risto Club"... we should have jackets.

Dude he' at the level of elite Seth before Columbus
- gerbe75pts

He started 63% of his time in the Offensive zone.

Risto started there 54%

CF% 56 for Hanifin

50% for Risto

Points wise, Hanifin has 18 goals in 240 games, and he doubled his goal output while his shooting percentage also doubled from 2 years of 3.5 to 6.5.

It seems like everyone not on the sabres is capital-E Elite to you

As soon as we get a new shiny toy...everyone else is awful and they need to be traded.

As far as Risto..I swear half the people on here don't even watch the games. Stats can only tell you so much. You have to watch how he plays..watch how he is always on the ice in the pooptiest of situations trying to cover for the 4 half-wits that accompany him.

And now that we FINALLY get him another quality defenseman to play with....everybody wants to trade him
- feetontheair22

While this is true, he's also on the ice in the best situations, example, most of his minutes are played with Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart and Kane.

Again, this is the disconnect.

Not all of O'Reilly, Ristolainen, Eichel, Reinhart can be really good. It just doesn't make sense.

We know Eichel is great, the eye test and numbers back that up. The other 3 is a different story

Noah Hanifin made the All-Star team and he's 21.

How in the hell is that not worth Mr. Canada?
- sbroads24

Ask future Captain Girgensons

Was being sarcastic. It's a bum stat. Also depends on deployment and the success (or failures) of the team.

In all serious though, Hanifin struggles with consistency, but has a huge ceiling. Would love him here, but he needs work.
- TheSabresTaco

I was helping prove the sarcasm.

Agreed on Hanifin, would be a huge get.

ROR, Nylander, 32, Bowl-U.

Hanifin,Skinner

Some people think we're going to make the playoffs it looks like

I think Casey at 2 is the best for his development
- gerbe75pts

Even Matthews was started at 3C by the Leafs...

Sheltering Casey a bit should be done whether or not ROR is still here

Erik Karlsson's wife had to file a restraining order against Mike Hoffman's long time girlfriend.

Well then....