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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:21 PM ET
I’m not sure I’d go after any FA Dmen. You already have Provy, Ghost, AMac, Sanheim, Gudas and Hagg healthy and, except for Hagg who should be signed soon, under contract for next year. You also have Myers who may be ready too and Morin should be back in the picture before the end of next season. Maybe you sign a 6/7 guy for depth but that’s all I’d do unless a Dman is traded at the draft.
- BiggE




i think with Morin out they need to find a middle pair D man. I know Sanheim and Hagg will get better but if the Flyers dont upgrade, I don't think the team will be any better than last year. Watching the Phantoms, specifically when they were eliminated, both Myers and Sanheim still have a ways to go.

When it is crunch time you really have AMAC and Provy that you cant trust. I hope Sanheim has a breakout year, I hope Hagg does and who knows maybe Gudas has a resurgence. Even if Gudas does, I still think the Flyers D will be lower half of the league.

they need a vet presence with some size and edge
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 12 @ 12:24 PM ET
i think with Morin out they need to find a middle pair D man. I know Sanheim and Hagg will get better but if the Flyers dont upgrade, I don't think the team will be any better than last year. Watching the Phantoms, specifically when they were eliminated, both Myers and Sanheim still have a ways to go.

When it is crunch time you really have AMAC and Provy that you cant trust. I hope Sanheim has a breakout year, I hope Hagg does and who knows maybe Gudas has a resurgence. Even if Gudas does, I still think the Flyers D will be lower half of the league.

they need a vet presence with some size and edge

- wcorvette

this is slanderous and will not be tolerated
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:32 PM ET
I don't ever, ever want to read another post that states that we should let Simmonds go because Morin can handle the enforcer role...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 12:33 PM ET
i think with Morin out they need to find a middle pair D man. I know Sanheim and Hagg will get better but if the Flyers dont upgrade, I don't think the team will be any better than last year. Watching the Phantoms, specifically when they were eliminated, both Myers and Sanheim still have a ways to go.

When it is crunch time you really have AMAC and Provy that you cant trust. I hope Sanheim has a breakout year, I hope Hagg does and who knows maybe Gudas has a resurgence. Even if Gudas does, I still think the Flyers D will be lower half of the league.

they need a vet presence with some size and edge

- wcorvette


Do you prefer Phaneuf or Zadorov?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 12 @ 12:36 PM ET
i think with Morin out they need to find a middle pair D man. I know Sanheim and Hagg will get better but if the Flyers dont upgrade, I don't think the team will be any better than last year. Watching the Phantoms, specifically when they were eliminated, both Myers and Sanheim still have a ways to go.

When it is crunch time you really have AMAC and Provy that you cant trust. I hope Sanheim has a breakout year, I hope Hagg does and who knows maybe Gudas has a resurgence. Even if Gudas does, I still think the Flyers D will be lower half of the league.

they need a vet presence with some size and edge

- wcorvette

I think we're gonna be the same next season regardless of what Hextall does. In fact we might be weaker. I agree with the majority that it isn't the right time for a splash but losing Simmonds could hurt. I don't like our goaltending and outside of Provorov, I don't like our defense.
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 12 @ 12:48 PM ET
I think we're gonna be the same next season regardless of what Hextall does. In fact we might be weaker. I agree with the majority that it isn't the right time for a splash but losing Simmonds could hurt. I don't like our goaltending and outside of Provorov, I don't like our defense.
- SuperSchennBros


I am hoping Hakstol learned from last season not to ride Elliott for too many games i n a row. He'd have been fine if he was only scheduled for 50-55 games The problem came when Neuvy went full glass that Hakstol rode Elliott to death instead of giving Lyon games to let Elliot keep his pace. I really hope we go into the year with Elliott/Lyon and find a way to move Neuvy.

On the D side I'm not going out and looking for a Dman with our current contracted D (I include Hagg as he's an RFA and will get an offer)

9-8
53-6
47-Myers
3 as the 7th (muscle if you want it).

Not saying they play those sides just how I'd like them to start.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
I think we're gonna be the same next season regardless of what Hextall does. In fact we might be weaker. I agree with the majority that it isn't the right time for a splash but losing Simmonds could hurt. I don't like our goaltending and outside of Provorov, I don't like our defense.
- SuperSchennBros



i think our defense will be better. I don't think people sometimes consider what its like to have experience. Hagg, Sanheim both have a year of NHL play under their belt. Not only do they have a better idea of what to expect, they also have a better idea of how to prepare both mentally and physically outside of what the team does in this regard.

I expect them both to improve. Both Ghost and Provorov played at Norris level last season. AMac will be AMac, which to me is a solid vet who will be a good partner on the 2nd or (preferably) 3rd pair. Ghost is now a veteran. Provorov has been a veteran from the time he was in juniors.

So maybe they come back with Gudas or trade him and another kid wins a job. Either way, I see improvement coming.

As for the goalies, they are just holding on for dear life.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
i think our defense will be better. I don't think people sometimes consider what its like to have experience. Hagg, Sanheim both have a year of NHL play under their belt. Not only do they have a better idea of what to expect, they also have a better idea of how to prepare both mentally and physically outside of what the team does in this regard.

I expect them both to improve. Both Ghost and Provorov played at Norris level last season. AMac will be AMac, which to me is a solid vet who will be a good partner on the 2nd or (preferably) 3rd pair. Ghost is now a veteran. Provorov has been a veteran from the time he was in juniors.

So maybe they come back with Gudas or trade him and another kid wins a job. Either way, I see improvement coming.

As for the goalies, they are just holding on for dear life.

- MBFlyerfan


It will also be nice to have a full healthy season of Patrick after his first year.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:06 PM ET
Do you prefer Phaneuf or Zadorov?
- jmatchett383

Zadorov all day
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
Zadorov all day
- Pixote Andolini


Good, because if we want a big defender who plays with an edge, he's probably the only one who can reasonably be acquired.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:08 PM ET
Good, because if we want a big defender who plays with an edge, he's probably the only one who can reasonably be acquired.
- jmatchett383

I'd be all over that.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:10 PM ET
Good, because if we want a big defender who plays with an edge, he's probably the only one who can reasonably be acquired.
- jmatchett383

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-6ARLqw9I
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:15 PM ET
Good, because if we want a big defender who plays with an edge, he's probably the only one who can reasonably be acquired.
- jmatchett383

Well the Flyers need a big tough defenseman. Sanheim is big but doesn't exactly instill fear. Morin is on the mend until the winter solstice of 2019 and Myers will be a bust. LOL
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:16 PM ET
Well the Flyers need a big tough defenseman. Sanheim is big but doesn't exactly instill fear. Morin is on the mend until the winter solstice of 2019 and Myers will be a bust. LOL
- Pixote Andolini


I never thought of Myers as a bruiser, more a big man who uses his body for positioning more than anything.

I'd love to get a guy like Zadorov, just not sure of the cost. But of the players like him, he probably gives the best return for what it would take to get him.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 12 @ 1:23 PM ET
P/GP leader of the 2018 Stanley Cup playoffs?

hint: finished tied for 21st in the playoffs in Points/MCL too
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:27 PM ET
P/GP leader of the 2018 Stanley Cup playoffs?

hint: finished tied for 21st in the playoffs in Points/MCL too

- YuenglingJagr


Shutdown Seanie?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 12 @ 1:33 PM ET
Shutdown Seanie?
- jmatchett383


Wentzylvania!
Coleman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Summerside, PEI
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jun 12 @ 1:34 PM ET
Good, because if we want a big defender who plays with an edge, he's probably the only one who can reasonably be acquired.
- jmatchett383

He's not particularly physical, but how much do you give up for Dougie Hamilton? He's a guy I'd look at trading Simmonds + for. The Flames also don't have a pick in the first 3 rounds this year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:36 PM ET
Wentzylvania!
- dragonoffrost


We need to make sure he's protected, so we should never play him against any team that has a competent defense.

In other words, he's only allowed to play against the Browns.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 12 @ 1:37 PM ET
I never thought of Myers as a bruiser, more a big man who uses his body for positioning more than anything.

I'd love to get a guy like Zadorov, just not sure of the cost. But of the players like him, he probably gives the best return for what it would take to get him.

- jmatchett383


You may be selling Meyers a tad short here...he has edge and is actually extremely dedicated to his fitness and strength programs.

He may not be someone likely to drop the gloves like Zadorov would but he can be very aggressive on the physicality side.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 12 @ 1:43 PM ET
You may be selling Meyers a tad short here...he has edge and is actually extremely dedicated to his fitness and strength programs.

He may not be someone likely to drop the gloves like Zadorov would but he can be very aggressive on the physicality side.

- juiced


I just don't see him as an imposingly physical guy. I can see him more along the lines of 2010 SCF Coburn who used his size with authority, but not they type that players fear as they approach the blueline.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 12 @ 1:43 PM ET
so do you go after Jack Johnson, Dehann or a cheaper option like Cole?
- wcorvette


JJ is redundant on a team that already has than MacDonald and Hagg in the top 4. Adding him would give the Flyers three dmen in the top 20 of the NHL.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...&sort=shotAttemptsRelPctg
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 12 @ 1:44 PM ET
Agreed. I think priority 1 is signing a 3C who can kill penalties and chip in a few goals. Someone like Riley Nash.
- MBFlyerfan

If they go FA to fill the 3C spot, Nash would be my choice. However, I’d rather fill the spot via a trade if possible. No matter who you sign in FA, you’ll likely end up signing someone for too much $$ and/or too many years.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 12 @ 1:53 PM ET
I think we're gonna be the same next season regardless of what Hextall does. In fact we might be weaker. I agree with the majority that it isn't the right time for a splash but losing Simmonds could hurt. I don't like our goaltending and outside of Provorov, I don't like our defense.
- SuperSchennBros


Ghost had such an incredible year as a top pairing dman and the best PP quarterback in the league, that if Hextall had bridged him he'd be looking at getting $8m+ AAV on his next contract.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Jun 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
i think our defense will be better. I don't think people sometimes consider what its like to have experience. Hagg, Sanheim both have a year of NHL play under their belt. Not only do they have a better idea of what to expect, they also have a better idea of how to prepare both mentally and physically outside of what the team does in this regard.

I expect them both to improve. Both Ghost and Provorov played at Norris level last season. AMac will be AMac, which to me is a solid vet who will be a good partner on the 2nd or (preferably) 3rd pair. Ghost is now a veteran. Provorov has been a veteran from the time he was in juniors.

So maybe they come back with Gudas or trade him and another kid wins a job. Either way, I see improvement coming.

As for the goalies, they are just holding on for dear life.

- MBFlyerfan


Is that because he's 27?
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