Someone said a while ago on here that the only team that can offer him 8 years is the Islanders. Even if his rights are traded. They said that in order for the team to offer a player 8 years, that player had to be on their roster by the trade deadline.

I didn't look it up or anything so I can't actually say for sure, but if that is correct, then even if a team trades for his rights, they can't offer 8 years. It would need to be a sign & trade.
- GreatGigInTheSky

This is correct.

Someone said a while ago on here that the only team that can offer him 8 years is the Islanders. Even if his rights are traded. They said that in order for the team to offer a player 8 years, that player had to be on their roster by the trade deadline.

I didn't look it up or anything so I can't actually say for sure, but if that is correct, then even if a team trades for his rights, they can't offer 8 years. It would need to be a sign & trade.
- GreatGigInTheSky

That would be one of the dumbest rules they could include in free agency, especially because teams that lose UFAs aren't compensated at all. I've never seen anybody say that before.

That would be one of the dumbest rules they could include in free agency, especially because teams that lose UFAs aren't compensated at all. I've never seen anybody say that before.
- Unholy_Goalie

https://www.nhl.com/news/...aining-agreement/c-649967

"The Agreement includes terms that limit the length of individual Player contracts to seven years (eight when a team is re-signing its own Player) and regulates the compensation structure, year-to-year variability and defining minimum value."

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-nhlpa-sign-collective-bargaining-agreement/c-649967

"The Agreement includes terms that limit the length of individual Player contracts to seven years (eight when a team is re-signing its own Player) and regulates the compensation structure, year-to-year variability and defining minimum value."
- TrashPanda

Well that's a little vague, isn't it? If you own a players rights, shouldn't that qualify you to sign him to an 8 year deal? And what about after July 1st? Can the Islanders still give him 8 years since technically he's no longer their player? This looks like it needs some clarification.

Would certainly make the East's centre matchups fun

Drouin
Danault
Shaw


Oh...oh my.
- AdamFrench

Well that's a little vague, isn't it? If you own a players rights, shouldn't that qualify you to sign him to an 8 year deal? And what about after July 1st? Can the Islanders still give him 8 years since technically he's no longer their player? This looks like it needs some clarification.
- Unholy_Goalie

I was trying to clarify this too. I did find this line on Wikipedia, "Players can only sign a contract for up to seven years. If they re-sign with their current team, the maximum length is eight years which can result in possible sign-and-trade deals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/...racts_and_contract_limits

The way it's worded suggests you'd need the player to sign with their original team and then get moved considering the part about, "can result in possible sign-and trade deals." But it's not really clearly spelled out and it's also just wikipedia, so take it for what its worth.

Having trouble finding anything else, although on a related note, on my google search list it showed a list labelled "best American hockey players" and the first one is Gretzky. Damn revisionist Americans trying to steal our players.

Need to be on the roster at the tdl to sign an 8 year deal.


Only the isles can sign tavares to an 8 year deal. So they could do a sign and trade. Never happened.


As of july 1, nobody can give him 8 years.

If the Leafs got Tavares their forward corps would be disturbing.
- Zezel

But the d would be.....


Well...
Just bad.

I was trying to clarify this too. I did find this line on Wikipedia, "Players can only sign a contract for up to seven years. If they re-sign with their current team, the maximum length is eight years which can result in possible sign-and-trade deals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/...racts_and_contract_limits

The way it's worded suggests you'd need the player to sign with their original team and then get moved considering the part about, "can result in possible sign-and trade deals." But it's not really clearly spelled out and it's also just wikipedia, so take it for what its worth.

Having trouble finding anything else, although on a related note, on my google search list it showed a list labelled "best American hockey players" and the first one is Gretzky. Damn revisionist Americans trying to steal our players.
- Thecakeisalie

They’re still upset that Canada burned down their White House in 1812.

I was trying to clarify this too. I did find this line on Wikipedia, "Players can only sign a contract for up to seven years. If they re-sign with their current team, the maximum length is eight years which can result in possible sign-and-trade deals."

https://en.wikipedia.org/...racts_and_contract_limits

The way it's worded suggests you'd need the player to sign with their original team and then get moved considering the part about, "can result in possible sign-and trade deals." But it's not really clearly spelled out and it's also just wikipedia, so take it for what its worth.
- Thecakeisalie

Considering how losing a UFA like Tavares could potentially (frank) over a team like the Islanders, common sense would dictate that they would be allowed to trade his rights to a new team so they could sign him to an 8 year deal and the Islanders would at least be able to get something for him. And again, common sense would also dictate that the Islanders, or whatever team holds a players rights, should be able to sign him to an 8 year deal after July 1st too. These are the types of scenarios that can make or break a fragile franchise and you'd think the rules would be in their favour. But then again, who the (frank) knows when it comes to the CBA, it certainly isn't the easiest read ever written.

It's a little off topic but it's like how the CBA is written for the players and the NHL to split revenue 50/50 and that a player can only make 20% of the total cap but when the players sign contracts, they get fixed dollars and not percentages of the total cap. You'd think it would make more sense that a player would sign a 10% contract instead of an 8 million dollar contract because then his salary would go up if the cap goes up but also go down if the cap went down. But that's the CBA for you.

But the d would be.....


Well...
Just bad.
- Fakepartofme

Our D would be scary. Just like our forwards would be, if for different reasons and to different teams.

Need to be on the roster at the tdl to sign an 8 year deal.


Only the isles can sign tavares to an 8 year deal. So they could do a sign and trade. Never happened.


As of july 1, nobody can give him 8 years.
- Tumbleweed

Sauce?

Our D would be scary. Just like our forwards would be, if for different reasons and to different teams.
- Thecakeisalie

I already said this! Quit stealing my lines you son of a female dog! I’ll kill you!

*flies into window*

Well that's a little vague, isn't it? If you own a players rights, shouldn't that qualify you to sign him to an 8 year deal? And what about after July 1st? Can the Islanders still give him 8 years since technically he's no longer their player? This looks like it needs some clarification.
- Unholy_Goalie

But only the team that currently has said player under contract can actually sign a contract before July 1st, so yeah, why else would you trade for their rights?

If Leafs acquired his rights like now, I would think they'd be able to sign him to an 8-year deal.

But the d would be.....


Well...
Just bad.
- Fakepartofme

Trade Nylander for help on D. Keep developing your own guys too. It wouldn't be a real problem. The hard part is signing Tavares and that's at a near 0% chance of happening.

Considering how losing a UFA like Tavares could potentially (frank) over a team like the Islanders, common sense would dictate that they would be allowed to trade his rights to a new team so they could sign him to an 8 year deal and the Islanders would at least be able to get something for him. And again, common sense would also dictate that the Islanders, or whatever team holds a players rights, should be able to sign him to an 8 year deal after July 1st too. These are the types of scenarios that can make or break a fragile franchise and you'd think the rules would be in their favour. But then again, who the (frank) knows when it comes to the CBA, it certainly isn't the easiest read ever written.

It's a little off topic but it's like how the CBA is written for the players and the NHL to split revenue 50/50 and that a player can only make 20% of the total cap but when the players sign contracts, they get fixed dollars and not percentages of the total cap. You'd think it would make more sense that a player would sign a 10% contract instead of an 8 million dollar contract because then his salary would go up if the cap goes up but also go down if the cap went down. But that's the CBA for you.
- Unholy_Goalie

Pfffft! Common sense! This is the NHL man!
I'm not totally sure what the rules are, but I wouldn't count on common sense meaning much.

But the d would be.....


Well...
Just bad.
- Fakepartofme

Process, not perfection lol...

Sauce?
- Unholy_Goalie

But only the team that currently has said player under contract can actually sign a contract before July 1st, so yeah, why else would you trade for their rights?

If Leafs acquired his rights like now, I would think they'd be able to sign him to an 8-year deal.
- gravyface

That's what common sense would tell you. It would give the Islanders at least something in return in the scenario Tavares refuses to re-sign in Long Island.

Well that's a little vague, isn't it? If you own a players rights, shouldn't that qualify you to sign him to an 8 year deal? And what about after July 1st? Can the Islanders still give him 8 years since technically he's no longer their player? This looks like it needs some clarification.
- Unholy_Goalie

Reading comprehension is hard.

I already said this! Quit stealing my lines you son of a female dog! I’ll kill you!

*flies into window*
- Steven_Seagull

Meh, everybody steals from everybody. I'm just trying to act like a professional comedian or some such.

- Thecakeisalie

Disgusting. Should be a bannable offense.

Meh, everybody steals from everybody. I'm just trying to act like a professional comedian or some such.
- Thecakeisalie

Good point

Reading comprehension is hard.
- TrashPanda

The way it's written, it's certainly open to interpretation. "Your own player", could mean the player you currently own the rights to. Or it could mean, a player who played at least 1 game for your team. Or a player the team drafted. It's not very specific as it was written there.

Disgusting. Should be a bannable offense.
- Unholy_Goalie