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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
I made a lengthy post a few weeks back about how we needed more goals from the defense and listed off how many we got vs how many we need. We can blame the forwards for a portion but the numbers show the Dmen need to be a lot more involved. Thus the need for drafting a top end D with offensive upside this year.
- NorthNuck


There is no denying our D can not shoot to save their life but a screen in front of the net would also be helpful. At least this team can defend on the back end.

Noah Dobson is not going to magically appear and score 14 goals for us this year or next. There is no guarantee he will ever do it. You need to start plugging holes and truthfully I feel much better about Wahlstrom scoring 25 than Dobson scoring 14
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:07 PM ET
There is no denying our D can not shoot to save their life but a screen in front of the net would also be helpful. At least this team can defend on the back end.

Noah Dobson is not going to magically appear and score 14 goals for us this year or next. There is no guarantee he will ever do it. You need to start plugging holes and truthfully I feel much better about Wahlstrom scoring 25 than Dobson scoring 14

- VANTEL

If Wahlstrom is available at 7 I have no problem drafting him. He is the only forward I feel that way about though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
I made a lengthy post a few weeks back about how we needed more goals from the defense and listed off how many we got vs how many we need. We can blame the forwards for a portion but the numbers show the Dmen need to be a lot more involved. Thus the need for drafting a top end D with offensive upside this year.

When teams like Arizona are outscoring your Dmen something needs a fix.

- NorthNuck



OEL > Edler
HJALMARSSON=Tanev
Goligoski >Stecher
Chychrun> OJ
Schenn =Gudbrandson
Cannauton > Pouliot


Four of their players were trades and UFA
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
Green on Pettersson:
“I talked to him for about five minutes – it was small talk because I didn’t know if we were going to draft him – and he had a real confidence to him and a real belief and that’s what stood out,” Green tells tsn1040.ca “I was like: ‘this kid – he’s going to play.’ He’s not cocky, but this guy is dialed in and has no doubt in his mind he’s going to play and he’s going to be good.”

Playing C vs RW:
“I think it’s a bit of a wait and see,” the coach explains. “He could end up coming in and playing centre right away. We know he’s capable of playing both. We want to put this guy in a position to succeed. Even though sometimes people don’t always agree with it, we’re always trying to put players in positions to succeed – not just for that day and that week, but long term. We want to give him power play time. We want to give him areas of the ice he can produce. But it’s one step at a time. Obviously, he’s got to come to camp and we’ll get him plenty of ice time and we’ll figure it out as we go.”
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
You are such an idiot.
- CanuckDon



Is latte code for tariff?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:09 PM ET
OEL > Edler
HJALMARSSON=Tanev
Goligoski >Stecher
Chychrun> OJ
Schenn =Gudbrandson
Cannauton > Pouliot


Four of their players were trades and UFA

- VANTEL

I don't care how we get them I just want us to get them. It would certainly help to draft a good one.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:11 PM ET
He's got the hardest shot out of the 4 defensemen that we're talking about.

You want to talk facts:
Boqvist is 165.4 lbs and 5 foot 11.5inches
If he was a week older he would be a 2019draft pick.
He's bigger and faster then Hughes.
He's younger then Hughes.
The only reason Hughesis rated higher is because he's north American.
Hughes has better lateral movement and could be a better passer.

- Pres.cup


Being “older” does not get you closer to being a draft pick in a later year, it is the exact opposite of that. If his birthday was later (he was younger) he would be a ‘19 draftee.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:11 PM ET
You are such an idiot.
- CanuckDon


Scouting Report

Smooth-skating puck mover who plays with flair and grace while owning one of the hardest shots of any draft-eligible defenseman. Boqvist is an attack-first option who loves to use his speed and agility to dart and weave around opposing zone schemes. He can quarterback a power play with the best of them, and he’s not shy towards unloading his howitzer with or without shooting lanes being clogged. His puck skills — especially stick-handling — and play within the offensive zone are extraordinary, and he appears to have a firm grasp on how critical his job is as his team’s center of gravity. Boqvist has a lightning-quick first step and uses it to escape trouble or interdict an opposing pass.

He tends to back off from his own blue line and appears content in trying to steal the puck after enemy zone entries rather than thwart them up high. Boqvist’s positioning in his own end can be ulcer-inducing, as he is a habitual gambler and floater, and his lack of upper-body strength denies him the ability to knock forwards off the puck once they slip behind him. Nevertheless, he is clearly an excitable game-breaker who has the potential to produce a lot of points at the NHL level.

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:12 PM ET
Haven't all the scouts been saying that one of Boqvist's biggest assets is a cannon of a shot?
- NorthNuck


Yes....
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:12 PM ET
Haven't all the scouts been saying that one of Boqvist's biggest assets is a cannon of a shot?
- NorthNuck

Bouchard and Dobson have better slap shots. Boq has a better wrist shot. That’s not why he is an idiot. He is an idiot because when anybody attempts to debate using facts he makes more sh!t up.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
OEL > Edler
HJALMARSSON=Tanev
Goligoski >Stecher
Chychrun> OJ
Schenn =Gudbrandson
Cannauton > Pouliot


Four of their players were trades and UFA

- VANTEL



You monster
;(
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:17 PM ET
Bouchard and Dobson have better slap shots. Boq has a better wrist shot. That’s not why he is an idiot. He is an idiot because when anybody attempts to debate using facts he makes more sh!t up.
- CanuckDon

Dobson has a very accurate shot but from what I've seen I don't think his slapper is anything special. Haven't seen enough tape of Boq to compare to Bouchard but if most of the scouts agree I tend to believe them
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:19 PM ET
Green on Pettersson:

Playing C vs RW:

- NorthNuck


This is exactly why you don't want to bring in more soft vets that can only play on the PP + easy mins. No more Vanek's and Gagner's if you want to see the kids get PP time.

Eriksson and Sutter can be used as a checking line. An overpaid one but it what it is.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:20 PM ET
Dobson has a very accurate shot but from what I've seen I don't think his slapper is anything special. Haven't seen enough tape of Boq to compare to Bouchard but if most of the scouts agree I tend to believe them
- NorthNuck

Bouchard was rated Best slapper in the OHL. Show me a scout that said boqvist has a harder shot than Bouchard. You can’t. Let’s stick to facts for once
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:20 PM ET

You monster
;(

- Pres.cup


He's right. Except Hjalmarsson is on the decline, Tanev is actually good when healthy.


carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:21 PM ET
I don't care how we get them I just want us to get them. It would certainly help to draft a good one.
- NorthNuck

We have to draft them
A) League is changing after Vegas castoffs almost won.
B) Benning isnt a trader.
Draft and draft some more.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:23 PM ET
Bouchard was rated Best slapper in the OHL. Show me a scout that said boqvist has a harder shot than Bouchard. You can’t. Let’s stick to facts for once
- CanuckDon


I guess the counter argument is that Boqvist's shot could get stronger, he has more weight to put on than Bouchard, who's the most physically developed out of the Hughes/Dobson/Boqvist/Bouchard cluster. Same with Wahlstrom, these guys are already pretty well built compared to most of the other guys slated to go early in this draft.

Bouchard will still get stronger too, but most of these other guys are just skinny/lanky kids.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:24 PM ET
I don't care how we get them I just want us to get them. It would certainly help to draft a good one.
- NorthNuck



Benning should be very busy this year

Connauton 11 G 1 mil ( we owned that (frank)er) Ben Hutton 0 G 2.8 mil

Gudbrandson 4 mil Polak 1mil

If I was to go big UFA hunting with Carlson or Green remember you would be also then moving Tanev and his 4.5
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
Being “older” does not get you closer to being a draft pick in a later year, it is the exact opposite of that. If his birthday was later (he was younger) he would be a ‘19 draftee.
- 1970vintage



You're right, if he was younger by a few weeks he'd bea 2019 draft.... Don was right.. I am an idiot.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:25 PM ET
I guess the counter argument is that Boqvist's shot could get stronger, he has more weight to put on than Bouchard, who's the most physically developed out of the Hughes/Dobson/Boqvist/Bouchard cluster. Same with Wahlstrom, these guys are already pretty well built compared to most of the other guys slated to go early in this draft.

Bouchard will still get stronger too, but most of these other guys are just skinny/lanky kids.

- Nucker101

Sure, I’m sure his shot will get better. An opinion and not made up facts. Thank you Nucker
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:26 PM ET
This is exactly why you don't want to bring in more soft vets that can only play on the PP + easy mins. No more Vanek's and Gagner's if you want to see the kids get PP time.

Eriksson and Sutter can be used as a checking line. An overpaid one but it what it is.

- Nucker101

If we sign any free agents I hope it's 1 or 2 Dmen and if necessary a 3/4th line checker at most
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:26 PM ET
Dobson has a very accurate shot but from what I've seen I don't think his slapper is anything special. Haven't seen enough tape of Boq to compare to Bouchard but if most of the scouts agree I tend to believe them
- NorthNuck



He has an excellent shot I have seen him use it in live games
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:27 PM ET

You're right, if he was younger by a few weeks he'd bea 2019 draft.... Don was right.. I am an idiot.


- Pres.cup

The cutoff is sept 15 not August 21st. Boqvists bday is Aug 15. Stop lying and stick to facts. Thank you
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
If we sign any free agents I hope it's 1 or 2 Dmen and if necessary a 3/4th line checker at most
- NorthNuck

Yes, at most. Big game hunting season is closed, sorry Vantel.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:28 PM ET
Benning should be very busy this year

Connauton 11 G 1 mil ( we owned that (frank)er) Ben Hutton 0 G 2.8 mil

Gudbrandson 4 mil Polak 1mil

If I was to go big UFA hunting with Carlson or Green remember you would be also then moving Tanev and his 4.5

- VANTEL


so who do you think benning drafts at 7 right now? or do you think its traded for hanifin?
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