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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:56 AM ET
If you are not taking on new players other than the draft, and going with people you drafted then they are the best. Pretty scary isn't it?

You need to bring them in slowly

It will be a (frank)en mess if you are going with Dahlen Gaudette EP Demjko Gaudette Goldobin Boeser and your vets are Sutter and Loui

- VANTEL


Interesting thing about Hodgson that I'd never heard. I don't know what others think, but I don't think it was 100 percent curable after all.

"Hodgson’s medical diagnosis could not have been anticipated, nor could it have been prevented. It wasn’t just back pain: he suffered from shortness of breath, blackouts and heart arrhythmia towards the end of his short NHL career. In his final season with the Nashville Predators, he was finally properly diagnosed with malignant hyperthermia.

Malignant hyperthermia is a genetic disorder, so it wasn’t something that could have been prevented. Most people who have it experience few or no symptoms before it is triggered. It’s usually triggered by undergoing general anaesthesia, but heavy physical exercise (like hockey) can also be a trigger.".
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:56 AM ET
If OJ was ready for top 2 after being drafted just 2 years ago, that would be an incredible feat.
- Reubenkincade



If you are rebuilding and trading off Vets to get draft picks then it is him Pouliot or Sautner that needs to be your top LHD
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:06 AM ET
If you are not taking on new players other than the draft, and going with people you drafted then they are the best. Pretty scary isn't it?

You need to bring them in slowly

It will be a (frank)en mess if you are going with Dahlen Gaudette EP Demjko Gaudette Goldobin Boeser and your vets are Sutter and Loui

- VANTEL



I agree.... just don't want O'Reilly, I'd rather trade the 7ov for hanifin.
O'Reilly is good, but we need D more. If we could sign Carlson and trade for O'Reilly then the rebuild is over....
I'd rather sign Taveras and trade for hanifin....
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:09 AM ET
Pettersson was the steal of that draft.
- we_are_all_canucks

aside from our pick
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:09 AM ET
If you are rebuilding and trading off Vets to get draft picks then it is him Pouliot or Sautner that needs to be your top LHD
- VANTEL


If you are talking down the road, who knows, maybe a kid drafted this year will be our top LHD, maybe it will be Brisebois, Gunnarson or McEneny.
The beauty of rebuilding, you never know who is going to be where, which is why patience is required.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:12 AM ET
I agree.... just don't want O'Reilly, I'd rather trade the 7ov for hanifin.
O'Reilly is good, but we need D more. If we could sign Carlson and trade for O'Reilly then the rebuild is over....
I'd rather sign Taveras and trade for hanifin....

- Pres.cup



I really don't get all the the dislike for a 27 year old 2 way center that averages 60 pts 22 G over the last 5 years . He plays PP and PK .

Someone needs to explain this?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:21 AM ET
If you are talking down the road, who knows, maybe a kid drafted this year will be our top LHD, maybe it will be Brisebois, Gunnarson or McEneny.
The beauty of rebuilding, you never know who is going to be where, which is why patience is required.

- Reubenkincade



Patience is great Brisebois Gunnarsson and McEneny will probably never be regulars on the Canucks.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:29 AM ET
I really don't get all the the dislike for a 27 year old 2 way center that averages 60 pts 22 G over the last 5 years . He plays PP and PK .

Someone needs to explain this?

- VANTEL


I cant speak for anyone else, but, I think O'Reilly is a fine hockey player. He would be a nice addition to our team 7 years ago or in 4 uears time. Now is not the time too be giving up assets for a player that is not going to help you win.
Although he is only 27, the same age as Tanev, the cost for him is what many of us are hoping too get in return for a premier shutdown defenseman, who also won't help us win games, but will provide for sheltering of youth or poor defensive players learning at the nhl level.
So the cost for RoR and what we may get for Tanev is a negative asset wise, if RoR costs us 7th+ & Tanev gets us a late 1st or couple 2nds.
1 player gives us a needed player at a valuable position(centre) and 1 takes away a player from a position(defense) in which we only have arguably 3 nhl calibre players at.
Now this could all change if Buffalo wants to take on a bunch of quantity. We can give them Hutton, MDZ, Granlund, Gaunce, Gagner, Markstrom, Baettschi, but I doubt that happens.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 1:32 AM ET
Patience is great Brisebois Gunnarsson and McEneny will probably never be regulars on the Canucks.
- VANTEL


McEneny is a better defenseman than Sautner, who you suggested would have too be our top LHD.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:35 AM ET
I cant speak for anyone else, but, I think O'Reilly is a fine hockey player. He would be a nice addition to our team 7 years ago or in 4 uears time. Now is not the time too be giving up assets for a player that is not going to help you win.
Although he is only 27, the same age as Tanev, the cost for him is what many of us are hoping too get in return for a premier shutdown defenseman, who also won't help us win games, but will provide for sheltering of youth or poor defensive players learning at the nhl level.
So the cost for RoR and what we may get for Tanev is a negative asset wise, if RoR costs us 7th+ & Tanev gets us a late 1st or couple 2nds.
1 player gives us a needed player at a valuable position(centre) and 1 takes away a player from a position(defense) in which we only have arguably 3 nhl calibre players at.
Now this could all change if Buffalo wants to take on a bunch of quantity. We can give them Hutton, MDZ, Granlund, Gaunce, Gagner, Markstrom, Baettschi, but I doubt that happens.

- Reubenkincade



You guys have really got to lets go this notion that Sven Hutton Granlund will land you ROR or Erik Karlsson. Their trade value is very low.

My first choice is draft Kotkaniemi Tkachuk Wahlstrom or maybe even Hughes.

After that I am open to possibilities
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 1:53 AM ET
You guys have really got to lets go this notion that Sven Hutton Granlund will land you ROR or Erik Karlsson. Their trade value is very low.

My first choice is draft Kotkaniemi Tkachuk Wahlstrom or maybe even Hughes.

After that I am open to possibilities

- VANTEL



Whoever drafts him over the other ones is drafting a lessor player. He's not bad, just not as good, damn, I'm actually thinking that I like Velino better. Speed to burn, good shot and defensively responsible, not creative enough to be a 1c but should be a quality 2c for years.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:55 AM ET
Both Gaudette and EP won't be a refined center for a few years.

Would you rather go with Bo Sutter Gaudette as your 123 or

Bo ROR Sutter?

- VANTEL


NO
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:58 AM ET
Do you think Pettersson should be a 2C around game 9 , 18 or 22?
- VANTEL

Prospect camp.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 2:01 AM ET
Prospect camp.
- A_SteamingLombardi




Yup
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 3:49 AM ET
You guys have really got to lets go this notion that Sven Hutton Granlund will land you ROR or Erik Karlsson. Their trade value is very low.

My first choice is draft Kotkaniemi Tkachuk Wahlstrom or maybe even Hughes.

After that I am open to possibilities

- VANTEL


The only time I have seen añyone post that these players were going to fetch a decent return, were when it has been stated sarcastically. Like how i just did in the aforementioned comment.
In regards to your choices, I think Hughes will struggle too be an nhler, Kotkaniemi is over rated by some here and Tkachuk and Wahlsrohm will be fine players, probably not liked much by the crowd that doesn't like safe picks, as they are not swing for the fences types.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 13 @ 6:09 AM ET
Agreed, now is not the time for big nsme free agents. Build up, stock the cupboards, and develop. Trade for short bad contracts <3 years for picks and prospects. And if you can, and it makes sense, trade down for more picks.
- carsonagenic

depends on the ufa. For the most part this is correct, but an E. Karlson or tavares could be the player to build around......not that I see either of them coming here at all.....but someone else

on another note would you sign kovalchuk if you could get him?
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 13 @ 6:35 AM ET
McEneny is a better defenseman than Sautner, who you suggested would have too be our top LHD.
- Reubenkincade

havent seen Mceneny play so I cant comment on his play but I liked Sautner in those games he played for the nucks at the last part of the season. Really seemed to settle things down for us. Good poise, like a regular would have
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 13 @ 9:41 AM ET
depends on the ufa. For the most part this is correct, but an E. Karlson or tavares could be the player to build around......not that I see either of them coming here at all.....but someone else

on another note would you sign kovalchuk if you could get him?

- SMBDragon

Any team would be happy to have Erik Karlsson or John Tavares at any stage of their teams building process. Any one here that says otherwise is an ass.

Kovalchuk on the other hand no. He is the opposite. Great player but I don’t think he is even the guy to get you over the hump to win in the playoffs. He is running out of money and now he is running back to to make more. Not interested in winning.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 9:50 AM ET
Given Mike Hoffman's situation, would you take him if his cost was Goldobin?
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 9:59 AM ET
havent seen Mceneny play so I cant comment on his play but I liked Sautner in those games he played for the nucks at the last part of the season. Really seemed to settle things down for us. Good poise, like a regular would have
- SMBDragon


I like Sautner as well, McEneny is somewhat similar, with a better 2-way game. More of an all-situations type.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
If we don't find a second line center we will end up with 96 goals this year
- VANTEL

Proportionally, the goals we are missing are from defensemen.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:38 AM ET
Given Mike Hoffman's situation, would you take him if his cost was Goldobin?
- chompsey

As long as there is a no-wife clause included
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
As long as there is a no-wife clause included
- NorthNuck


Oh... snap
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:47 AM ET
Given Mike Hoffman's situation, would you take him if his cost was Goldobin?
- chompsey


No.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:54 AM ET
Oh... snap
- Pres.cup


Even this analytic site has concerns about your boy and have ranked him at 10th, also suggesting Bouchard is a better pick.
https://thecanuckway.com/...-profile-10-adam-boqvist/
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