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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 12 @ 11:21 PM ET
Sutter is not a second line center. Big hole there
- VANTEL

Sutter is our 3/4 depending on Gaudette. eP will be a center imo
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:26 PM ET
Sutter is our 3/4 depending on Gaudette. eP will be a center imo
- CanuckDon


Both Gaudette and EP won't be a refined center for a few years.

Would you rather go with Bo Sutter Gaudette as your 123 or

Bo ROR Sutter?
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:40 PM ET
Both Gaudette and EP won't be a refined center for a few years.

Would you rather go with Bo Sutter Gaudette as your 123 or

Bo ROR Sutter?

- VANTEL

4 years from now I would like to add the current version of ROR. Thats when we would need a player like that on our timeline.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 12 @ 11:41 PM ET
Both Gaudette and EP won't be a refined center for a few years.

Would you rather go with Bo Sutter Gaudette as your 123 or

Bo ROR Sutter?

- VANTEL

I really hope we don't pay RoR. I would rather Bozak as a 2 year stop gap to win face offs and ease EP in.

EDIT: Trading for RoR is the same as stating that our rebuild is over. May as well sell more futures for Hanifin to try and be a playoff team now,rather than later.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:45 PM ET
I really hope we don't pay RoR. I would rather Bozak as a 2 year stop gap to win face offs and ease EP in.
- Retinalz

I think id rather get Speeza as the stopgap. We want to develop and still pick really high with the draft being in Van. Get Dallas to add a second for taking him on. Then trade at the deadline for a second. Classic pump and dump.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:45 PM ET
4 years from now I would like to add the current version of ROR. Thats when we would need a player like that on our timeline.
- carsonagenic

If we don't find a second line center we will end up with 96 goals this year
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:47 PM ET
If we don't find a second line center we will end up with 96 goals this year
- VANTEL

Yea Hughes! With the draft in Van, lets not stop sucking now. That would be too Canuck like.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:48 PM ET
I really hope we don't pay RoR. I would rather Bozak as a 2 year stop gap to win face offs and ease EP in.

EDIT: Trading for RoR is the same as stating that our rebuild is over. May as well sell more futures for Hanifin to try and be a playoff team now,rather than later.

- Retinalz



You may as well keep Sutter over Bozak as 2C
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 12 @ 11:51 PM ET
4 years from now I would like to add the current version of ROR. Thats when we would need a player like that on our timeline.
- carsonagenic


4 years from now, maybe, 4 or 5 of the season-ending roster will be on this team.
Several players in this draft, like Veleno, Hayton, Kupari MacLeod and Kotkaniemi will be a much better fit that RoR would be today.
Those players are a reason why I would not be opposed to a trade down scenario, and I have never liked that scenario in my 30+ years of following the draft.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 12 @ 11:57 PM ET
Fir and maple
- A_SteamingLombardi


Good trade, season that poop for next winter and you'll have some good hearth wood.

My dog just cornered a mink, that's been killing my geese/chicken, under a pile of scrap metal. I could see its evil beady eyes reflecting the green from my barrel light.... bang bang. No more dead birds.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:58 PM ET
4 years from now, maybe, 4 or 5 of the season-ending roster will be on this team.
Several players in this draft, like Veleno, Hayton, Kupari MacLeod and Kotkaniemi will be a much better fit that RoR would be today.
Those players are a reason why I would not be opposed to a trade down scenario, and I have never liked that scenario in my 30+ years of following the draft.

- Reubenkincade

Agreed, now is not the time for big nsme free agents. Build up, stock the cupboards, and develop. Trade for short bad contracts <3 years for picks and prospects. And if you can, and it makes sense, trade down for more picks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:01 AM ET
Agreed, now is not the time for big nsme free agents. Build up, stock the cupboards, and develop. Trade for short bad contracts <3 years for picks and prospects. And if you can, and it makes sense, trade down for more picks.
- carsonagenic



Can't dress an AHL team.


Doesn't matter what we think Benning is actively looking for a 2C
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:02 AM ET
Agreed, now is not the time for big nsme free agents. Build up, stock the cupboards, and develop. Trade for short bad contracts <3 years for picks and prospects. And if you can, and it makes sense, trade down for more picks.
- carsonagenic



Can't dress an AHL team.


Doesn't matter what we think Benning is actively looking for a 2C
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:02 AM ET
Sutter is not a second line center. Big hole there
- VANTEL


Horvat will be if Peterson pans out.

Horvat, peterson, taveras, sutter, guadette

Vs

Edler, tanev, Carlson, mdz, OJ, strech, pullout, Hutton.

Yup, we need D more, especially when you consider the age of the players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:07 AM ET
Horvat will be if Peterson pans out.

Horvat, peterson, taveras, sutter, guadette

Vs

Edler, tanev, Carlson, mdz, OJ, strech, pullout, Hutton.

Yup, we need D more, especially when you consider the age of the players.

- Pres.cup


Do you think Pettersson should be a 2C around game 9 , 18 or 22?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 13 @ 12:16 AM ET
Do you think Pettersson should be a 2C around game 9 , 18 or 22?
- VANTEL

game 11
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:17 AM ET
Can't dress an AHL team.


Doesn't matter what we think Benning is actively looking for a 2C

- VANTEL

Yep i know. Thats where our prospects will be playing. We just dont need 7 mil per, long term free agents that we give up high first rounders for. Speeza fits the bill, low cost or actually gain picks to aquire, not shed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:22 AM ET
Yep i know. Thats where our prospects will be playing. We just dont need 7 mil per, long term free agents that we give up high first rounders for. Speeza fits the bill, low cost or actually gain picks to aquire, not shed.
- carsonagenic



Funny enough both Sedins were paid 7 mil each for 4 years and about the same point production
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:26 AM ET
Do you think Pettersson should be a 2C around game 9 , 18 or 22?
- VANTEL


Game 50 after we trade Taveras for a pair of firsts.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 12:30 AM ET
Funny enough both Sedins were paid 7 mil each for 4 years and about the same point production
- VANTEL


As many have said many times the rebuild starts when the Sedin's are gone. They are now gone and it is time to build through the draft, have patience and enjoy the evolution of the new core, whoever it may be.
So many good players available this year, that I am almost giving up trying to guess who goes where and just hope Benning gets another pick or 2. I can wait another couple seasons or so, for this team to develop.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:30 AM ET
Funny enough both Sedins were paid 7 mil each for 4 years and about the same point production
- VANTEL


Over the past 4years the twins actually provided the value that they were paid.

I could see peterson being a sheltered 2c.
Sutter and horvat will play closer to 20 minutes each, with sutter taking lotsof the defensive play. Peterson will be 3rd in minutes but will play pp1 and get scheduled offensive come starts, his stat line will read like a 3lc, with 2lc O zone time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:36 AM ET
As many have said many times the rebuild starts when the Sedin's are gone. They are now gone and it is time to build through the draft, have patience and enjoy the evolution of the new core, whoever it may be.
So many good players available this year, that I am almost giving up trying to guess who goes where and just hope Benning gets another pick or 2. I can wait another couple seasons or so, for this team to develop.

- Reubenkincade



OJ ready to be top 2 Jake ready for top 6 ?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 13 @ 12:45 AM ET
OJ ready to be top 2 Jake ready for top 6 ?
- VANTEL


A bit of a strech... top 4 and top 9....
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 13 @ 12:47 AM ET
OJ ready to be top 2 Jake ready for top 6 ?
- VANTEL


If OJ was ready for top 2 after being drafted just 2 years ago, that would be an incredible feat.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 13 @ 12:51 AM ET
A bit of a strech... top 4 and top 9....
- Pres.cup


If you are not taking on new players other than the draft, and going with people you drafted then they are the best. Pretty scary isn't it?

You need to bring them in slowly

It will be a (frank)en mess if you are going with Dahlen Gaudette EP Demjko Gaudette Goldobin Boeser and your vets are Sutter and Loui
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