Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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neem55
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Seabrooks contract is worth more than the 8th overall imo.
$6.9 for 6 more years for a 33 year old - classic321
Seabiscuit, prospect and 8 for tanev |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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We can't afford more 'safe' picks in the first. Safe picks gets you hodgson, guance, virtanen, OJ. Instead of Karlsson, Elhers, Serg.
Who would ould you rather have? Another safe pick? Or a home run?
I really like wahlstrom, even tchunk for that matter, but we've got some decent wingers and even centers.... but where are the defenders? All things being equal were need a stud right handed D. - Pres.cup
For sure. This BPA crap isn't filling our needs. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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[quote=CanuckDon]
They also seem like can't miss top liners with the biggest ceilings in the draft.
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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have the Canucks had any player meetings with kotkiniemi?
I know they've met with boqvist, dobson,wahlstrom and hughes a few times and so i expect one of them to be picked. I don't get kotkniemis popularity, 0 points in the playoffs has me sceptical. BPA |
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neem55
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For sure. This BPA crap isn't filling our needs. - LordHumungous
Seems like boeser, bo and EP were the BPA's |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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have the Canucks had any player meetings with kotkiniemi?
I know they've met with boqvist, dobson,wahlstrom and hughes a few times and so i expect one of them to be picked. I don't get kotkniemis popularity, 0 points in the playoffs has me sceptical. BPA - neem55
It appears he is getting overrated due to the fact he is a center and younger for the draft. Not sure I see the same upside as everyone else |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Seems like boeser, bo and EP were the BPA's - neem55
Boeser and EP where swings for the fence, bo was a safe pick who exceeded his ceiling. |
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Boeser and EP where swings for the fence, bo was a safe pick who exceeded his ceiling. - Pres.cup
Bo was drafted for his OHL Playoffs and Memorial Cup.
Guy won OHL Playoff MVP and he matched up as 17 year old against 19 year Mark Sciefelle and won.
Plus he led his team in memorial Cup scoring that year as well.
A good playoffs and memorial cup just moves you up that draft board.
But yeah he could be called a safe pick. |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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It appears he is getting overrated due to the fact he is a center and younger for the draft. Not sure I see the same upside as everyone else - CanuckDon
I dont know much about him but he's intriguing to me because he's younger, a little more raw, and he's already 6'-2" 190lbs. Thats a good size C and from the few highlights I've seen has some skills to go with it, so he has me curious |
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neem55
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It appears he is getting overrated due to the fact he is a center and younger for the draft. Not sure I see the same upside as everyone else - CanuckDon
second youngest guy in the draft, higher ceiling=boqvist |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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second youngest guy in the draft, higher ceiling=boqvist - neem55
Yes I’d tend to agree I just don’t place as much value on a players age as some. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Seems like boeser, bo and EP were the BPA's - neem55
Maybe Bo I'll give you that. EP and Boeser not so much |
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chompsey
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Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water Joined: 10.04.2005
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I dont know much about him but he's intriguing to me because he's younger, a little more raw, and he's already 6'-2" 190lbs. Thats a good size C and from the few highlights I've seen has some skills to go with it, so he has me curious - WhiteLie
I thnk the comparison would be Anze Kopitar.
0 pts in the playoffs as a rookie in the top Finish mens league has almost no value to me, he'll be fine..... |
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At this point I would be happy with anyone, I'm just happy it will end the useless speculation. - A_SteamingLombardi
Useless speculation is why I am here😂 |
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neem55
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Yes I’d tend to agree I just don’t place as much value on a players age as some. - CanuckDon
I think the big thing with it is that physically they are still growing, so if the physical skills are there it's a bonus. He came into the combine almost 6', 165 and loaded with skill/IQ/ NHL shot (at 18 that's impressive). Because he's so young, he's a few years away. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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Maybe Bo I'll give you that. EP and Boeser not so much - LordHumungous
Unless there's clear-cut front runners like McDavid or this Dahlin kid, BPA is just a personal subjective 'I like this guy better than that guy list'.
According to most rankings Horvat was a reach at #9 in 2013. Shinkaruk was ranked higher on almost every list. |
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neem55
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Maybe Bo I'll give you that. EP and Boeser not so much - LordHumungous
Boeser was a late first rounder, not at all a reach and easily could be considered BPA in that spot. Was a late first rounder on everyones draft board. |
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Unless there's clear-cut front runners like McDavid or this Dahlin kid, BPA is just a personal subjective 'I like this guy better than that guy list'.
According to most rankings Horvat was a reach at #9 in 2013. Shinkaruk was ranked higher on almost every list. - LeftCoaster
When making a mock draft I tend to go with who I think said teams will pick in their spot. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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Boeser was a late first rounder, not at all a reach and easily could be considered BPA in that spot. Was a late first rounder on everyones draft board. - neem55
Yeah he was ranked 25-30 on most lists, never saw him higher than that, he went where he was supposed to. |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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I thnk the comparison would be Anze Kopitar.
0 pts in the playoffs as a rookie in the top Finish mens league has almost no value to me, he'll be fine..... - chompsey
I don't know if its just because he's Finnish, but I saw a comparison made about him to Barkov. Barkov and Kopitar are fairly similar and would be very happy to have someone like that in the system |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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I don't know if its just because he's Finnish, but I saw a comparison made about him to Barkov. Barkov and Kopitar are fairly similar and would be very happy to have someone like that in the system - WhiteLie
Barkov is so good, he's not flashy, doesn't have a great first step or break away speed but man is he smart and he's got great hands when the pucks on his stick. |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Bo was drafted for his OHL Playoffs and Memorial Cup.
Guy won OHL Playoff MVP and he matched up as 17 year old against 19 year Mark Sciefelle and won.
Plus he led his team in memorial Cup scoring that year as well.
A good playoffs and memorial cup just moves you up that draft board.
But yeah he could be called a safe pick. - classic321
Don't get me wrong, he was drafted where he should be. But due to his 2 way play, he was a safe pick |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ Joined: 07.03.2009
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Don't get me wrong, he was drafted where he should be. But due to his 2 way play, we was a safe pick - Pres.cup
He was ranked 14th to 23rd on lists, a reach because of good playoffs at #9. |
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Right now I’m speculating Montreal goes off the board for Bouchard/Veleno.
Ottawa does not change their pick to Zadina and stays with Boqvist.
Arizona can’t pass up Zadina.
Redwings pull the trigger on Kotkaniemi.
If depending on who is available we either keep our pick or move down or trade it away.
Lots of good options for us this year. That’s why I like the speculation. |
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