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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:28 AM ET
Botchford is far from credible. The problem is that most of the TSN Vancouver crew are all ex-Sports Page alums and aren't insiders anymore. They were hack journalists that barely passed their exams in BCIT and were lucky enough to get hired by Paul Carson who produced Sports Page at the time.
- DariusKnight


I think most of them know as much or less than we do but I think guys like Patterson and Botch that actually hang around the Canucks know more than the rest.


chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
Botchford is far from credible. The problem is that most of the TSN Vancouver crew are all ex-Sports Page alums and aren't insiders anymore. They were hack journalists that barely passed their exams in BCIT and were lucky enough to get hired by Paul Carson who produced Sports Page at the time.
- DariusKnight


Cite an example please....

And I would agree with the rest. Shorthouse is the only guy with talent from that era.....
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think most of them know as much or less than we do but I think guys like Patterson and Botch that actually hang around the Canucks know more than the rest.
- VANTEL


Tony Gallagher was credible, so was Neil McCrae back in the day, Botchford when he came here was credible until he got a guest spot on the radio and then started being "Shock Jock" Botch
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:32 AM ET
The thing that bothers me lately is the fact that guys that have very little or no value will be back on our team again next year. Benning has a blank canvas and should be selling off guys like Sven Hutton and more. If no one else wants them then say adios and find new players.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 12 @ 10:34 AM ET
I think most of them know as much or less than we do but I think guys like Patterson and Botch that actually hang around the Canucks know more than the rest.
- VANTEL


Doubtful, while I wouldn't regard them as actually sources, being in the business would provide them with actual contacts, unlike the rest of us.

I mean, my buddies daughter is married to a pro player and former NHLer with Florida and I get all the stories but I couldn't tell you poop other than the car's these guys drive and how much they drink haha
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
Tony Gallagher was credible, so was Neil McCrae back in the day, Botchford when he came here was credible until he got a guest spot on the radio and then started being "Shock Jock" Botch
- DariusKnight


Fair statement
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
Tony Gallagher was credible, so was Neil McCrae back in the day, Botchford when he came here was credible until he got a guest spot on the radio and then started being "Shock Jock" Botch
- DariusKnight


He does stir the pot but I don't think he is making stuff up or his access pass would be removed

There is a lot of crap going on behind closed doors
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 12 @ 10:37 AM ET
The thing that bothers me lately is the fact that guys that have very little or no value will be back on our team again next year. Benning has a blank canvas and should be selling off guys like Sven Hutton and more. If no one else wants them then say adios and find new players.
- VANTEL


This exactly, I hate seeing Baertchi in the top 6 of most rosters. Cant see Granlund even making the team
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
The thing that bothers me lately is the fact that guys that have very little or no value will be back on our team again next year. Benning has a blank canvas and should be selling off guys like Sven Hutton and more. If no one else wants them then say adios and find new players.
- VANTEL

Who is out there that provides a better option that also won't cost us anything? This line of thinking is so strange to me. It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to do that. May as well continue to develop these young players and try to make something of them rather than give up on them and just having a carousel of mediocrity.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 12 @ 10:47 AM ET
He does stir the pot but I don't think he is making stuff up or his access pass would be removed

There is a lot of crap going on behind closed doors

- VANTEL


Of course there is, but I bet you that whatever he's told isn't what is actually going on, and he's putting out his analysis and his own slant on it. He's perfect for the market actually, he's the certain portion of the fanbase's voice, and because he's so popular with that portion he can get away with a lot.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:48 AM ET
Who is out there that provides a better option that also won't cost us anything? This line of thinking is so strange to me. It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to do that. May as well continue to develop these young players and try to make something of them rather than give up on them and just having a carousel of mediocrity.
- NorthNuck



Come on really ? You think bringing back Gaunce with his 6 goals in 4 years at 800k is a better option than Maroon at 1.5 -2.5?

Canucks have close to 30 mil in cap space . It is okay to try something new . A guy like David Perron can be 3 mil player and easily replace 1 mil Granlund .

Derek Ryan might be better than Nick Dowd ???? Maybe?
LeftCoaster
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 10:51 AM ET
Who is out there that provides a better option that also won't cost us anything? This line of thinking is so strange to me. It's rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic to do that. May as well continue to develop these young players and try to make something of them rather than give up on them and just having a carousel of mediocrity.
- NorthNuck

Benning will stick with the guys he's brought in until he can draft an upgrade or trade them and all his picks for a perceived upgrade.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:52 AM ET
Of course there is, but I bet you that whatever he's told isn't what is actually going on, and he's putting out his analysis and his own slant on it. He's perfect for the market actually, he's the certain portion of the fanbase's voice, and because he's so popular with that portion he can get away with a lot.
- DariusKnight



I remember him saying at the draft he was there , there was a deal on the table for Bozak Kaddri and a second for Luongo. He said he was there he seen it and Luongo said no. I don't think he was making that up.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 12 @ 10:52 AM ET
Come on really ? You think bringing back Gaunce with his 6 goals in 4 years at 800k is a better option than Maroon at 1.5 -2.5?

Canucks have close to 30 mil in cap space . It is okay to try something new . A guy like David Perron can be 3 mil player and easily replace 1 mil Granlund .

Derek Ryan might be better than Nick Dowd ???? Maybe?

- VANTEL



Now youre talking 4th line guys...that makes more sense than dumping Sven for the sake of dumping him.

In an ideal world Sven is your 3LW. You play him in your top 6 until there is someone better and at this point there isn't....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 12 @ 10:54 AM ET
Of course there is, but I bet you that whatever he's told isn't what is actually going on, and he's putting out his analysis and his own slant on it. He's perfect for the market actually, he's the certain portion of the fanbase's voice, and because he's so popular with that portion he can get away with a lot.
- DariusKnight


Sounds like you are hating for the sake of hating.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 10:58 AM ET
Now youre talking 4th line guys...that makes more sense than dumping Sven for the sake of dumping him.

In an ideal world Sven is your 3LW. You play him in your top 6 until there is someone better and at this point there isn't....

- chompsey


I have always said Sven is a third line guy. same as Sutter.

IMO Bo Brock EP Dahlen are Top 6 guys . I hope Canucks draft a forward and then one more top 6 guy needs to be brought in. in the next year or two.
LeftCoaster
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 10:58 AM ET
Now youre talking 4th line guys...that makes more sense than dumping Sven for the sake of dumping him.

In an ideal world Sven is your 3LW. You play him in your top 6 until there is someone better and at this point there isn't....

- chompsey

Baertschi had some good chemistry with Horvat and Boeser last year, is he a top six guy, probably not, but like you said, you don't change him out for the sake of it, you wait until you produce a better option then get ride of him.
LeftCoaster
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 12 @ 11:01 AM ET
I have always said Sven is a third line guy. same as Sutter.

IMO Bo Brock EP Dahlen are Top 6 guys . I hope Canucks draft a forward and then one more top 6 guy needs to be brought in. in the next year or two.

- VANTEL

I'm hoping Dahlen is a better version of Baertschi and he pushes him out the door for a pick in 2019.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:02 AM ET
Baertschi had some good chemistry with Horvat and Boeser last year, is he a top six guy, probably not, but like you said, you don't change him out for the sake of it, you wait until you produce a better option then get ride of him.
- LeftCoaster


You have 9 third line players pick 3

Sven probably has the best trade value of all the third liners aside from Sutter
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 12 @ 11:04 AM ET
Botchford is far from credible. The problem is that most of the TSN Vancouver crew are all ex-Sports Page alums and aren't insiders anymore. They were hack journalists that barely passed their exams in BCIT and were lucky enough to get hired by Paul Carson who produced Sports Page at the time.
- DariusKnight



I like them all (aside from Pratt). They're just radio hosts. Not insiders. Moj will mention the odd "what I hear" but far from an insider. They have to have some kind of opinion otherwise it'd just be DTMZ all day long. I take anything that they say with a grain if salt.

storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 12 @ 11:06 AM ET
Come on really ? You think bringing back Gaunce with his 6 goals in 4 years at 800k is a better option than Maroon at 1.5 -2.5?

Canucks have close to 30 mil in cap space . It is okay to try something new . A guy like David Perron can be 3 mil player and easily replace 1 mil Granlund .

Derek Ryan might be better than Nick Dowd ???? Maybe?

- VANTEL


He's had that many? wow, more than I thought.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 12 @ 11:07 AM ET
Sounds like you are hating for the sake of hating.....
- chompsey


I don't hate him, again, he's perfect for this market. I give him credit for managing to sell himself and The Province with his "Shock Jock" Botch persona.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 12 @ 11:08 AM ET
I'm hoping Dahlen is a better version of Baertschi and he pushes him out the door for a pick in 2019.
- LeftCoaster


Did you try trade the 7th pick, in the mock draft, or was it bpa?
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 12 @ 11:09 AM ET
I'm hoping Dahlen is a better version of Baertschi and he pushes him out the door for a pick in 2019.
- LeftCoaster



Yup, could happen. I'd also just like to see Sven play a full 82. He could be a 25 goal guy or very close to it.

I've mentioned it before, but:

Tanev at TDL (gonna go east in UFA after the next season anyway?)
Edler at TDL
Spare parts that can be moved at TDL

Load up on picks for your home Draft.

Resign Edler in summer. He love sit here so much u offer him 2 years. 3 max.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 12 @ 11:11 AM ET
Smartest thing Canucks could do is draft their center Kotkaniemi
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