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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:13 PM ET
Two can play this game. OJ has the best IQ , he also has the greatest intangibles. Most scouts think he has the best back hand in the world outside of maybe Crosby. There you are, a nice accurate and detailed Pres Cup scouting report. I’m confident you have never watched boqvist play so this is a waste of time argument. As you were

Edit. Dobson is better at sit-ups than boqvist as well. Generational crunches scouts are saying

- CanuckDon


Most scouts? Liar, I've only read one report that said his strength was his backhand, which isn't really that needed for a defender.
Dobson is a world caliber cruncher, ill give you that.
I don't get your boqvist hate, it's irrational. Did you buy him a latte and he said no?

I get it that you liked the oj pick, but why do were need a right handed canadian version?

Also I watched bodqvist lots, so much that nucker got jelly and told the police about the little hole that was drilled in his shower, I'm not allowed to watch him any more because his moves are so filthy.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:15 PM ET
Nope.
- manvanfan

I dont know the actual list. I read a quote that said 2/3 through testing he is the lightest player. So perhaps he is 3rd lightest? My sincere apologies
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 9 @ 3:16 PM ET
Racist

Plays better defense then bouchard or Hughes.
Has a better shot then all of the defensemen out of all big D.
Better skater then all of them except for Hughes.
Better on ice vision then all of them except bouchard.

Yeah, I'll take a swing at the home run instead of bunting for a single, but enjoy the warm cozy feeling of a safe pick.

- Pres.cup

Only I am aloud to call him that.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:16 PM ET
Most scouts? Liar, I've only read one report that said his strength was his backhand, which isn't really that needed for a defender.
Dobson is a world caliber cruncher, ill give you that.
I don't get your boqvist hate, it's irrational. Did you buy him a latte and he said no?

I get it that you liked the oj pick, but why do were need a right handed canadian version?

Also I watched bodqvist lots, so much that nucker got jelly and told the police about the little hole that was drilled in his shower, I'm not allowed to watch him any more because his moves are so filthy.

- Pres.cup

I did not like the OJ pick! I dont think they are similar
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:17 PM ET
I believe he was the lightest player at the combine. Runt. Yes, he is not short
- CanuckDon



I believe that I fart rainbows, doesn't make it true though. Let's stick to facts please, there are enough Don's in the works making up facts without you adding to the noise, unless..... are you one of trump's burner accounts?
thundachunk
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Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 9 @ 3:18 PM ET
Two can play this game. Dobson has the best IQ and he also the greatest intangibles. Most scouts think he has the best back hand in the world outside of maybe Crosby. There you are, a nice accurate and detailed Pres Cup scouting report. I’m confident you have never watched boqvist play so this is a waste of time argument. As you were

Edit. Dobson is better at sit-ups than boqvist as well. Generational crunches scouts are saying

- CanuckDon

Dobson is a safe pick. That’s wwhy he is getting the love. That and you can check off a lot of boxes on his defensive game.
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 3:20 PM ET
I did not like the OJ pick! I dont think they are similar
- CanuckDon

Sergachev
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
I did not like the OJ pick! I dont think they are similar
- CanuckDon


OJ reportedly had the highest IQ in his draft year.

You just said that the main reason you liked Dobson was his IQ is reportedly the highest in his draft year.

I like Dobson, think he's going to be a good player for years, just rather see a swing for the fences. Boqvist has a higher ceiling and a lower floor, not a safe pick, but concussions aside he's the 2nd best D in the draft, and the 2nd youngest, almost a year younger then Dobson.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:21 PM ET

I believe that I fart rainbows, doesn't make it true though. Let's stick to facts please, the it's's enough Don's in the works making up facts without you adding to the noise, unless..... are you one of trump's burner accounts?

- Pres.cup

I relent. Boqvist has a generational shot and a generational iq. Karlsson has his poster on his wall
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 3:21 PM ET

I believe that I fart rainbows, doesn't make it true though. Let's stick to facts please, the it's's enough Don's in the works making up facts without you adding to the noise, unless..... are you one of trump's burner accounts?

- Pres.cup

I love Trump!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:21 PM ET
OJ reportedly had the highest IQ in his draft year.

You just said that the main reason you liked Dobson was his IQ is reportedly the highest in his draft year.

I like Dobson, think he's going to be a good player for years, just rather see a swing for the fences. Boqvist has a higher ceiling and a lower floor, not a safe pick, but concussions aside he's the 2nd best D in the draft, and the 2nd youngest, almost a year younger then Dobson.

- Pres.cup

For (frank)sakes I was being sarcastic/ mocking your claims lol

How in the (frank) would I know how smart Dobson is
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
I relent. Boqvist has a generational shot and a generational iq. Karlsson has his poster on his wall
- CanuckDon

I knew you would come around.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:22 PM ET
I relent. Boqvist has a generational shot and a generational iq. Karlsson has his poster on his wall
- CanuckDon


He's actually not very bright.... but his offensive upside is absolutely delightful.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:26 PM ET
For (frank)sakes I was being sarcastic/ mocking your claims lol

How in the (frank) would I know how smart Dobson is

- CanuckDon


I assume that you actually work in the Canucks head office and have his IQ test in front of you...

I'd be happy with any of the 4 defensemen, except Hughes. He's not a real man, and he's left handed.
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 3:33 PM ET
I assume that you actually work in the Canucks head office and have his IQ test in front of you...

I'd be happy with any of the 4 defensemen, except Hughes. He's not a real man, and he's left handed.

- Pres.cup

So cyborg?
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
I wouldn't hate this pick. I'd like to move down to get him though
- neem55


As much as I like Veleno, if Benning was to trade down, id hope he drafts Dominik Bokk, that guy has a ton of skill.
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
As much as I like Veleno, if Benning was to trade down, id hope he drafts Dominik Bokk, that guy has a ton of skill.
- phyllee

Velino fell out of the top 10 for me in December.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Velino fell out of the top 10 for me in December.
- thundachunk


He's this year's lilljren
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Velino fell out of the top 10 for me in December.
- thundachunk


I wasnt saying pick Veleno at 7 (id have him at 13) I just ment if Benning was to trade down I like Bokk. Or for a Dman Merkley, big risk but could be a huge payoff
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
I wasnt saying pick Veleno at 7 (id have him at 13) I just ment if Benning was to trade down I like Bokk. Or for a Dman Merkley, big risk but could be a huge payoff
- phyllee

I agree with Velino I have Wilde going at 11 Bouchard at 12.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 4:03 PM ET
I agree with Velino I have Wilde going at 11 Bouchard at 12.
- thundachunk


Bouchard at 12 bold. I cant see a RHD slipping by Edmonton, but crazier things have happened.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:06 PM ET
I agree with Velino I have Wilde going at 11 Bouchard at 12.
- thundachunk

Canuckarmy has Wilde going at 25. After reading their page on him. Might be more of a pick around 20.

All the USDP D might be a bit over hyped by the strength of their team this year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:08 PM ET
I dont know the actual list. I read a quote that said 2/3 through testing he is the lightest player. So perhaps he is 3rd lightest? My sincere apologies
- CanuckDon

9th lightest and 2nd youngest at the combine.
thundachunk
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Jun 9 @ 4:32 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/oiler...om/t-277437406/c-60524103

This is the guy I do not pass on.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 9 @ 4:42 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/oilers/video/combine--oliver-wahlstrom/t-277437406/c-60524103

This is the guy I do not pass on.

- thundachunk


If Pettersson played Center all year id be all for Wahlstrom, but with that being unclear at the NHL level itd be safer to draft a dman
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