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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 11:55 PM ET
So you're not high on Kotkaniemi? Not enough flash for you? Do you know how he was used vs how Armia was used? What type of minutes they had and what types of situations?

Saying this guys had 29 point and this guy had 27 points is essentially meaningless unless there's context.

- LeftCoaster

Armia is interesting...he had better stats in his draft season but then never really progressed even in Liiga. From what I can tell, Kotkanimi is developing on a steeper curve. I doubt he only puts up 35 points next season
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:59 PM ET
Because I dont think he plays like Kopitar?

This goes to your second answer too. Lol you are trying really hard to figure it out for no reason.

- manvanfan

No just in general.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 12:06 AM ET
Armia is interesting...he had better stats in his draft season but then never really progressed even in Liiga. From what I can tell, Kotkanimi is developing on a steeper curve. I doubt he only puts up 35 points next season
- CanuckDon

I don't know enough about either of them to say one way or the other, I have read some good things about Kotkaniemi though, which intrigues me about him.

I've never seen him play though!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 9 @ 12:09 AM ET
I don't know enough about either of them to say one way or the other, I have read some good things about Kotkaniemi though, which intrigues me about him.

I've never seen him play though!

- LeftCoaster

I’ve watched him play one game lol. I know the least about him out of any of the top 15
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 12:17 AM ET
I don't know enough about either of them to say one way or the other, I have read some good things about Kotkaniemi though, which intrigues me about him.

I've never seen him play though!

- LeftCoaster

He was great at the u18s. Played center. Bigger, better so plays center with his age group. Winger in Liiga. Was usually listed 1st or 2nd line.

He works hard.

Read reports about his shot being great. Yet to see it above avg in highlights. No Laine for sure. If Det picks him at 6. Would just leave a better player for Van.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 12:34 AM ET
He was great at the u18s. Played center. Bigger, better so plays center with his age group. Winger in Liiga. Was usually listed 1st or 2nd line.

He works hard.

Read reports about his shot being great. Yet to see it above avg in highlights. No Laine for sure. If Det picks him at 6. Would just leave a better player for Van.

- manvanfan

I'd love for Pettersson to become a center but they still need to draft one even if he does, only Tkachuk and Kotkaniemi project to be developed as centres. Possibly.

I think Wahlstrom could too but I've read more and more he's a better fit for the wing. Still wouldn't stop me from trying him there.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 9 @ 12:46 AM ET
If you (frank) it up can we call you stupid as well?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 12:57 AM ET
I’ve watched him play one game lol. I know the least about him out of any of the top 15
- CanuckDon


My top ten.

1. Of course
2. Svech
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Hughes
7. Dobson
8. Tchunk
9. Kotkanin?
10. Bouchard
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 1:06 AM ET
My top ten.

1. Of course
2. Svech
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Hughes
7. Dobson
8. Tchunk
9. Kokinahowtospellit
10. Bouchard

- Pres.cup

After the top two it gets interesting!
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 1:29 AM ET
After the top two it gets interesting!
- LeftCoaster


It's true, any of the players from 8 down I'd be happy with, except Hughes, even if he's super skilled, I don't trust (halflings)5 foot 7 defensemen .
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Jun 9 @ 2:54 AM ET
I'd love for Pettersson to become a center but they still need to draft one even if he does, only Tkachuk and Kotkaniemi project to be developed as centres. Possibly.

I think Wahlstrom could too but I've read more and more he's a better fit for the wing. Still wouldn't stop me from trying him there.

- LeftCoaster

pettersson is obviously a skill player. I want a C that will (frank)ing run someone over at the faceoff dot. That's the C we need.

I'd rather try a bigger body for C

I'm really siding with picking wahlstrom, be cool to see he and pettersson can do together.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 9 @ 3:51 AM ET
HA....hardly, I’m a well spoken professional with media training and confidence.
- LeftCoaster


I'm thinking you sound like you have a hot dog in your mouth.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 9:20 AM ET
pettersson is obviously a skill player. I want a C that will (frank)ing run someone over at the faceoff dot. That's the C we need.

I'd rather try a bigger body for C

I'm really siding with picking wahlstrom, be cool to see he and pettersson can do together.

- SMBDragon

Only if Boqvist and Dobson are gone.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:38 AM ET
Only if Boqvist and Dobson are gone.
- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:40 AM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

Just think about adding a RHD and then a LHD in K'Andre Miller or Johnny Tychonick in the 2nd round.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
Just think about adding a RHD and then a LHD in K'Andre Miller or Johnny Tychonick in the 2nd round.
- manvanfan

The only way we get K’Andre is if we take him at 7 or acquire another pick between 20 and 25. He won’t make the second round.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 9 @ 10:55 AM ET
pettersson is obviously a skill player. I want a C that will (frank)ing run someone over at the faceoff dot. That's the C we need.

I'd rather try a bigger body for C

I'm really siding with picking wahlstrom, be cool to see he and pettersson can do together.

- SMBDragon

Wahlstrom is the pick if he is there. He is this years PLD. I predict he goes 3rd over Zadina.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
Just think about adding a RHD and then a LHD in K'Andre Miller or Johnny Tychonick in the 2nd round.
- manvanfan


Yes, however i'm trying to temper my expectations
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:57 AM ET
Wahlstrom is the pick if he is there. He is this years PLD. I predict he goes 3rd over Zadina.
- thundachunk


Well, someone is going to go off the board, that helps us.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:04 AM ET
The only way we get K’Andre is if we take him at 7 or acquire another pick between 20 and 25. He won’t make the second round.
- thundachunk

If i can remember when I get home tomorrow. This is going in the book 😁
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
Only if Boqvist and Dobson are gone.
- manvanfan

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:09 AM ET
Wahlstrom is the pick if he is there. He is this years PLD. I predict he goes 3rd over Zadina.
- thundachunk

Wahlstrom isnt going to be an NHL center. People just overlooked PLD that year because the Finns were so good at WJC.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
My top ten.

1. Of course
2. Svech
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Hughes
7. Dobson
8. Tchunk
9. Kotkanin?
10. Bouchard

- Pres.cup

I’m to old for the draft and my boys are to young.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:14 AM ET
Man, if JB trades the #7, i'm coming straight to this thread to enjoy the meltdown
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:15 AM ET
My top ten.

1. Of course
2. Svech
3. Zadina
4. Wahlstrom
5. Boqvist
6. Hughes
7. Dobson
8. Tchunk
9. Kotkanin?
10. Bouchard

- Pres.cup


Perfect
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